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Samprimary
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http://agoodcartoon.tumblr.com/post/112519623990/the-cartoonist-has-no-idea-how-net-neutrality

SUBTITLE AND ALTERNATE THREAD CONCEPT: one-panel political cartoons are awful and getting worse by the year

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I was driving the other night and was flipping through radio stations and stopped on the Christian News station for a minute. "Defend your first Amendment rights, protect religious freedoms, call or write your congressman today to stop so called 'Net Neutrality' laws and keep America free."
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they gon ride that whole 'everything is a threat to your freedoms as a good christian' horse straight into the ground, where — dessicated and miserable, having just been ridden through "Protect Your Religious Freedoms: Stop Bi-Annual Commerce Taxes for Dam Upkeep, and keep america FREE" it will breathe its last
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quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
I was driving the other night and was flipping through radio stations and stopped on the Christian News station for a minute. "Defend your first Amendment rights, protect religious freedoms, call or write your congressman today to stop so called 'Net Neutrality' laws and keep America free."

Good. Destroying Net Neutrality is pretty unamerican and all of the above. I was hoping someone would pitch it this way.
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I know I am likely in the minority here, but I'm against Net Neutrality.

Put the power in the hands of the government, and the companies with the most lobbying power are going to end up writing the regulations.

This article pretty much sums up how I feel:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshsteimle/2014/05/14/am-i-the-only-techie-against-net-neutrality/

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As opposed to those same companies imposing the kinds of control they seek anyway, without having to proposition politicians?
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Eh, it's a pretty hack article regarding its politics, Geraine. There are some useful points-a deep distrust of the weaving together of corporate and government interest, for example-but he swiftly pivots to tried and sometimes true conservative rhetoric.

Such as 'some people view government as utterly benevolent and all seeing parent', paraphrasing. Really? Have you ever met anyone you spoke to for more than a short time for whom that is remotely true?

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quote:
Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
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Originally posted by Dogbreath:
I was driving the other night and was flipping through radio stations and stopped on the Christian News station for a minute. "Defend your first Amendment rights, protect religious freedoms, call or write your congressman today to stop so called 'Net Neutrality' laws and keep America free."

Good. Destroying Net Neutrality is pretty unamerican and all of the above. I was hoping someone would pitch it this way.
I'm not sure if you read that correctly, unfortunately.
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So that tumblr was all kinds of great.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
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Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
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Originally posted by Dogbreath:
I was driving the other night and was flipping through radio stations and stopped on the Christian News station for a minute. "Defend your first Amendment rights, protect religious freedoms, call or write your congressman today to stop so called 'Net Neutrality' laws and keep America free."

Good. Destroying Net Neutrality is pretty unamerican and all of the above. I was hoping someone would pitch it this way.
I'm not sure if you read that correctly, unfortunately.
Net neutrality is the status quo, right, so stopping the laws (what the radioperson suggests) would theoretically save net neutrality.
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quote:
Originally posted by Geraine:
I know I am likely in the minority here, but I'm against Net Neutrality.

Put the power in the hands of the government, and the companies with the most lobbying power are going to end up writing the regulations.

This article pretty much sums up how I feel:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshsteimle/2014/05/14/am-i-the-only-techie-against-net-neutrality/

I would be interested to read your thoughts on net neutrality in your own words, Geriane. It could be the start of an interesting discussion.
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quote:
Originally posted by JanitorBlade:
So that tumblr was all kinds of great.

I lost it at "Obama wears a red tie but dreams of wearing a blue tie. A… cartoon."
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quote:
Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
Net neutrality is the status quo, right, so stopping the laws (what the radioperson suggests) would theoretically save net neutrality.

No, you don't understand what the regulations are attempting to do. It is true that net neutrality supporters mostly want to keep the internet functioning as it does now. However, there are both existing and theoretical deviations from neutrality that regulation supporters view as detrimental to the market that they hope to prevent.

I think the main problems that the US internet service provider market faces are posed by a widespread lack of competition within local markets. For the last decade, I've never had another choice for what I consider adequate broadband besides Comcast, so Comcast can get away with high prices and all sorts of gross behavior without losing customers' business. A small portion of their current gross behavior is something I would consider a violation of net neutrality.

The big ISPs say that the hypothetical net neutrality violations people are worried about will never happen, because people could switch ISPs if they were dissatisfied with their misbehaving one. But in practice, that isn't the case. In the absence of the market protecting consumers' interests, regulation is another option.

I'm a web developer dependent on net neutrality in practice to ensure the internet is a platform I can develop for.

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Why couldn't another ISP come in and offer the same service at a better price? Is it the cost of laying down lines that is prohibitive?
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quote:
Originally posted by JanitorBlade:
Why couldn't another ISP come in and offer the same service at a better price? Is it the cost of laying down lines that is prohibitive?

Yes, but not just monetarily speaking
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