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Sean Monahan
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How have I never heard of this before?

http://scifiaddicts.com/orson-scott-card-new-sci-fi-series-extinct/

The synopsis sounds somewhat like Philip Jose Farmer's "Riverworld". I've never heard of BYUtv though, so I guess it'll be a while before I'm able to see it. Does anybody know anything about this series?

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Oh snap! I saw a blurb about this but did not know Mr. Card is connected so directly.

Super interested in watching it eventually. Love the premise.

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BYUtv did the series Granite Flats-- a story about a little town in Colorado (I think) that encounters G-men, communists, abusers, and shady government experimentation. It takes place in the 50s.

It has its moments of brilliance. A lot of cringe-worthy stuff too (the acting isn't...great).

I'm hoping Extinct is better.

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I do hope this makes to Netflix one day. It will be 3 or 4 years after making to American Netflix but it is worth waiting...
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I think Granite Flats went to Netflix fairly quickly (like during it's initial production run). Also, I believe you can stream BYUtv for free, at least within the US.
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quote:
400 years after the human race has gone extinct, [we see] a small band of humans who have been revived / brought back into existence by a mysterious alien civilization.
Oh, I am late, but I read this just now. And it does sound fascinating. Such a great idea. I really look forward to seeing what they're gonna do with it. [Smile]
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Sean Monahan
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So, has anyone been watching this? If so, how is it? I have not seen it.
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shall I predict
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remember that concept fantasy and or sci-fi series that you watched that one time where you realized pretty early in that the actors really weren't selling it and it's a shame but it sure ain't gonna change, but that's kind of no big deal ultimately because of how the pacing is exhausting your willingness to queue up the next episode in the series and if you had to guess it's because of an elegant combination of that the writers just can't write compelling dialogue that validates the puffery of the fantasy and or sci-fi concept and that the budget necessitates that large portions of the storyboarding default to the most low-budget visual framing possible and so it's going to be a ton of conversations in the few sets they actually built and a lot of the rest is going to be stuff like EXTERIOR: WAREHOUSE and EXTERIOR: FIELD and you're like ah yeah mhm I'm already pretty done with this?

okay?

because we've been through that all already right?

okay it's gonna be that but the script is going to be like if a person with literal hams for hands is hitting you over and over with their ham hands and each wet meaty thump of the ham is "it is a mormon theology analogy"

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Well, that was just mean. At least watch a couple episodes before you decide.
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ok i watched four
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Well, were you right?
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absolutely completely

its a whistlestop tour of 'doing things that make tv sci-fi have the reputation it does' with the added part where this is a piece for a church-run LDS television programming network thing so its primary obligation is to satisfy strict religious programming requirements adherent with the mormon church's censorship and moral message guidelines and this pretty solidly locks in what ethical themes the show must massage endlessly and what its not allowed to touch.

on top of that, the writing is tepid and it creates unintentional comedy. the danger or physical capacity of any being on the planet is circumstantial to the needs of the plot, so I made it about to the point where a 6 or 7 year old looking child was stealth one-shotting the parasite host crew dudes with tiny rocks and then I just couldn't anymore. plot could be summarized with that the ghost robots from bungie's destiny (tm) as part of an attempt to save humanity from an alien force wielding banshees from bungie's halo (tm) brought three humans back to life who had been specifically chosen for their ability to ensure that if they are present in each other's company, at least one of them will pointedly but purposelessly disagree with any given course of action or instruction given to them, no matter how inconsistent with their character this is, and then usually just go along with it. and this happens like all the time. a significant portion of the show's dramatic filler is just "and the characters pause while one of them seemingly at random objects to a thing they are doing or have been asked to do." it's like, oh, is it Abram's turn at the "I must object" lotto to object to instructions from the monolith slab, that he can hear with his monolith slab hearing powers, that have been making him try to convince the others to trust the slab

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Oh well.
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i got to put this in my file of break points - single moments in a piece of media where i know i'm not bothering anymore

https://i.imgur.com/tUIgawd.mp4

*bonk*

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steven
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I bet you think your generation invented sarcasm, but I promise you every single one of us Gen Xers was rolling their eyes daily before you were even born. I’m pretty sure you all learned it by watching us roll our eyes at the Boomers. literal LOL
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are you sarcastically imitating an old person having a get-off-my-lawn moment or is that a sincere objection to millenials killing the sarcasm industry
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So I tied an avocado to my belt...
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
are you sarcastically imitating an old person having a get-off-my-lawn moment or is that a sincere objection to millenials killing the sarcasm industry

Just don’t assume you’ve invented anything, as an individual or as a “generation”. ee cummings was hating on caps and punctuation before the Boomers even existed, and sarcasm as a generational thing is (AFAIK) mostly got big with gen Xers. But feel free to keep on keeping on. Every generation has a role to play as critics of the previous ones. (Then you grow up, have your own teenagers who rebel against YOU, and so on).
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I think you presume that Samp thinks he's being innovative (and prioritizes innovation as a value), and that erroneous presumption makes your criticism here come off as remarkably off-target. It's rather like complaining to a Bulls fan that their team doesn't score enough touchdowns.
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off target is one thing, but this is like a completely nonsequitorial cane-shaking that i charitably wanted to presume was itself sarcastic

i continue not to understand the steven generational lecture as a phenomenon

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Well, if you don’t think you’re being innovative, where does the...self-congratulatory....vibe come from?
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Drugs. With Sam it's always drugs.
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A drug called “my generation is special”? LOL

Dude, I’m more than willing to ascribe his behavior to being from a very liberal, urban background, and having never really done much in life. I didn’t want to discount the possibility that he also had some assumption about older generations being fundamentally flawed, instead of just being from more conservative times/places.

It’s a fine line between saying “Feel free to abuse these old conservatives at will” and “you’ll understand more after you’ve actually really tried and failed at some big things in life” or even “you’re a liberal by birth and circumstance. I’m one more by study and thought. Stop patting yourself on the back so hard.” None of these are really the whole truth of how I see the situation.

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Yeah, no, it's drugs.
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So then, what I'm getting is... don't watch it.
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quote:
Originally posted by steven:
Well, if you don’t think you’re being innovative, where does the...self-congratulatory....vibe come from?

do you think a person has to believe that their generation invented sarcasm in order to then subsequently use sarcasm

do you think a person has to believe that their generation invented sarcasm in order to dress down a pretty tepid sci-fi tv show

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additionally the only person here who has even suggested that their own generation had particular significance in terms of the creation or subsequent evolution of sarcasm is you, which makes your pseudoanalysis of my attitude or potential upbringing even more charmingly ironic
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