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THIS IS THE ONLY TRUE AND LIVING "GETTING TO KNOW YOU" POST THREAD ON THE FACE OF THIS FORUM!!! YOU CAN POST ANY FUN INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF HERE, AND CHECK OUT THE FUN INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER WRITERS THAT HAVE POSTED IN THIS THREAD!!!

sorry to get so emphatic, but I wanted to make sure that you knew that this is the fun, light, 'getting aquainted' thread as opposed the the more serious, 'take a side and fight for your right to express a moral opinion' thread entitled A bit of me.

Anyhooo!

Hi, I'm Richard Chiu, and I have a picture of myself at my webpage. I'll put that in my profile sometime, and you can look at me and tremble in fear that such as I exist.

I want to become a writer, not that I've never written anything, in fact, I've written quite a bit more than you probably want to read, but I want to become the sort of writer that can't write enough to satisfy my many fans. I've written a lot of stuff in the Hatrack River Forums, but I've decided to devote myself to this place, because I don't want to comment on society or OSC's writing, I want to learn to write myself.

What about you?

[This message has been edited by Survivor (edited July 30, 2000).]


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Well, for me reading is sort of like inhaling, so I guess that means writing should be like exhaling. And it would be fun if I could maybe even learn to sing.

One time I heard this advice to writers: to think of the thing you'd like to read more than anything else in the whole world, and then to just sit down and write it.

What are the things that you've liked reading most in the world so far? What is it that you want to write?


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Yeah, but aside from that, what about you? What interests you? How do you think of yourself? What do you hate? Would you kill a human for an abstract cause? Stuff like that.
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Do you really want to know that? Anyway, I asked you first. What is it you want to be? or do? What would you be willing to die for?
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Hmm, interesting.

Well, I would be willing to die for a lot of things. It's more what I'm willing to live for. I'm willing to live for the sake of honor. If it is not to be had, then I must depart.

As for what I want to write, that is a sort of tricky question. I suppose that the real question is what do I intend to write. And the answer, as unsatisfying as it may be, is that I want to write speculative fiction. Not science fiction, or fantasy, but a sort of literature of myself.

As for my questions, I am interested in everything, I think of myself as a survivor, I hate wickedness and stupidity, and I would kill a human for any good cause. But I also meant personal stuff, like liking strawberries and chocolate, or the writing of Tolstoy, or being immune to poison ivy.

Or, an explaination of why you are here, what you aspire to do, how you are doing.


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That's the hardest question! I'm tempted to blow it off and say 42.

Then I think of Joshu's mu, and want to scream MU! MU! That oak tree in the garden!

But then I think, well, why not answer the mundane part of the question. I'd like to go into space. Specifically, I think the human species should send a mission in 2027 to obliterate or deflect asteroid 1999AN10 which was discovered this January and has a small possibility of impacting the earth (in 2044 or later), causing the whole K-T nuclear winter scenario, and incidentally rendering most species extinct. (Including, of course, us.)

Never mind that the probability is small. I can accept large risks for myself, smaller risks for my family, but the whole world I want to try to eliminate even tiny risks for. I don't mind dying at all, but I hate the thought that there won't be any more novels again ever. Or symphonies. Or WWF, or saturday morning cartoons, whatever. Just bound to the wheel, I guess!

What I'm doing in the meantime is designing and building machines of all kinds. I think it's good experience for lots of possible future scenarios, plus it's a lot of fun and I seem to be pretty good at it.

But the truth about what I'm really doing is hard to say ... ... ... ... I'm seeking something ... ... and just worshipping in awe... ...and keeping my eyes open, trying to learn, enjoying the show ... ... oh this is so lame! ... ... ... yesterday a great blue heron flew down by my creek right at sunset ... ... ... this place hatrack is pretty nice ... ... ... ... I like to talk and think about all these things that interest me... ... .... ... just mu ...

[This message has been edited by Nomda Plume (edited September 20, 1999).]


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Don't worry, when the last human lies dead, there will still be art, and beauty, and music. I don't know about WWF. I actually kind of hope not
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Oh, I'm afraid it would take more than an asteroid impact to kill the WWF. All those broadcasts on the FM band in an ever-expanding sphere centered on the sun...
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Yes, but if FTL travel does exist then a more advanced race will likely detect the signal, then race back to a safe distance and erect a dampening field to safely eliminated it forever.
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Don't you hate it when some writer shows a person in an FTL vehicle 'chasing' a radio broadcast?

Okay, number one, you would have to remain stationary relative to the point of transmission, since otherwise you'll cause some kind of weird doppler effect, which would cause some interesting effects on an AM transmission but would totally freak out an FM transmission. Not to mention what would happen to a digital signal. You would need so much computer analysis that it would be easier to synthesize the broadcast from scratch.

Then there is the matter of wasting an incredible amount of energy chasing an old, weak, degraded signal instead of just having a copy in storage. Nuff said.

Besides, any realistic type of FTL travel would have to avoid actual FTL propagation through spacetime. Either you would be outside of spacetime, or you would be non FTL, or both. The dang signal will outrun you anyway.


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If you are in a car driving the speed of light and you turn on the headlights, will they do anything?

The point? If you're chasing a radio signal, and you're going as fast as it is, wouldn't that leave you recieving the same tone (say, note of the song) indefinitely? Hmmm.... Something to think about.....

As for the subject of what one is willing to die for....Not too much, if you must know. I'm unmistakeably my father's daughter, I inherited quite an 'ornery' streak. I may not be willing to just lay down and die, but I'd be very willing to fight like hell itself for whatever cause inspired me to that level. I guess my basic philosophy on that point would have to be 'if I go, I'm taking a few with me on the way out!'.

As for the WWF, let them go fend off the asteroid!!!


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Man, if I were an asteriod I would stay the heck out of the way. But if I were an asteriod going the speed of light, I would have difficulty doing so, because time dilation would make it impossible for me to do anything.

If you were going the speed of light and wanted to turn on your headlights, then it would forever for you to finish that thought, cause the electrons in your brain cannot exceed lightspeed, and then forever to get that message to your hand, and an even longer forever for your hand to reach the switch and turn it on, and then another forever for the electrons in the battery to begin running around, and forever for the filament in the light bulbs to heat up, and forever for the light to get outside of the bulb...

I could go on, but I think I may have already gone too far.


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Hey, we got some new guys! Who are these mystery men? Are they joining writer's groups? What do they like to eat when the fires are burning down and the artillery flashes become lost in the evening mist?

Oh, by the way, just thought that I would crow about my getting into a writer's group at last. Hah! And I sort of loosely am aquainted with one of the people in my group.


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New guy wanting to join a writers group. . .

-The Archangel-


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New guy wanting to join a writers group. . .

-The Archangel-


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Hello there, Gabriel. You can join a writer's group by going to the How to Join a Writers Group form and filling it in. That will go to Kathleen and tell her to consider putting you into a group. To learn more about writer's groups in general, go to How a Writers Group Works and review the information in How to Join a Writers Group.

Until you get assigned your very on secret group, you can hang out with us here in the open discussions forum. We just hang around and knaw over things that puzzle us, issues that we face as writers, like; How to delineate a workable fantasy environment, How to integrate characters with different belief systems into our narrative, How to present elements of risk or danger without alienating the reader, and so on and so forth. We also have fun topics like; Favorite quotes for the day, Where do ideas come from?, Getting to know you , and such.

Anyway, go ahead and feel free to jump in here, it's the open area, after all.


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I am having computer withdrawals!!!!!!!!!!!!
I miss these discussions so much!!!!!!!!!!!
Right now I feel like I might kill for a computer. Well, not really but, my I hate this!(

I get out of the loop and things just take off around here. An hour on line is just not enough. The government should do something useful like provide every household with a computer.aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!


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Actually, a large measure of blame goes to the fact that until recently, computers have been sold as though they weren't a consumable. People expected the system they bought for top dollar to have a high value five years later, without understanding that it just wasn't realistic to think that way. In the couple of decades since personal computers became a household item, our household has had seven, not counting computers procured by family members in other households. Two of these have passed beyond the realm of function, but the others have all passed on to other owners, except the two in residence now. We just gave them away. If more people understood the realities of the computer market, virtually every household would have a computer for virtually free by now

On the other hand, they wouldn't be top of the line...


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Sorry about that last post. I think it was a bout of 'post computer trauma'. Amasing, considering I'm so new to the computer age. I have had someone give me a car but the only computer anyone gave me was a dino that you couldn't possible use to get on-line. I appreciated that one when I still had it. I wish I knew someone who would give me one now.
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Check around You may not get one for free, but you can certainly get one for cheap.
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I've got one in my basement that hasn't worked for about a year...You can have that, but for the cost of repairs you could have a newer one anyway.

I don't give computers away because they always have some use, even if it's spare parts or nostalgic games once in a blue moon. For example, I have a computer that nobody wants to use (too slow) that I use as a renderfarm. It takes a lot longer than my preferred workstation, but what does that matter when nobody's using it anyway?

Oh, BTW, since this is the check-in thread...I've been frequenting this place for about a month. Being 17 I'm not supposed to post here, but I don't mind, because that's the way I am. I'd tell you more personal details, but you're doubtless fine without them, and being a lazy person (in things that don't matter), I won't.
          -Ryan


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Don't worry, we just like to keep the 'tone' of discussion here...you know

Anyway, what kind of artwork do you do?


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Rball,
you're not the youngest person on this side. That would be Hobbes. At least I think he's the youngest. Hard telling who is the oldest. Welcome!

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i s'pose i'll introduce myself now. i guess i'm too young to be here too, but i'm here. i used to post in the young writers part, and i just returned a little while ago, diff name though. anywho...hi
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Oh yeah, I got asked a question.

I do mostly landscapes, because I am obsessed with them, and having seen a rich variety (I live on the front range of the Colorado Rockies, with mountains on one hand and rolling plains on the other), they are easy for me to visualize. I'm starting to branch out, but in honesty I haven't done much in the way of 3D art in a long time, because I don't have enough memory anymore to do what I'd really like. (I have a lot of unfinished scenes sitting around, because they got too big and bogged down in interminal paging intervals.)

Well, you did ask.
-R.


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That's cool, though. I mean, it sort of can be discouraging to be cut off from your effort because you don't have media or something, but it's cool to have that expression in you even when you're not actually working on it. It changes your outlook (which is fun for seeing sights that everyone else has seen, because you get to see something that only you have seen there).
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Nomda Plume, I think that is one of the most interesting names I have heard in any online arena. Mostly because it pretty much means "sign name" if you take it litterally. So, your sign name is Sign Name in a way. I just wanted to say that was kind of interesting is all.

But, about me, I think I want to be a writer, at least some of the time. I have many ideas, and I am here mostly to get more ideas on how to write and assist anyone if I know something they dont. I also wish to express my opinions, and I find that alot easier online than in person, because online people take you at face value, and not because you are too tall or something like that.

Anyways, good luck to us all I assume.


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Hey, we got some new guys! Who are these mystery men? Are they joining writer's groups? What do they like to eat when the fires are burning down and the artillery flashes become lost in the evening mist?

Oh, by the way, just thought that I would cry about my writer's group slowly dwindling in unbelief (or at least failure to post, I think that we only have just the three of us left, and no one has a story ready to go). !!! And I sort of hoped that we would be an unstoppable intellectual quorum that would change the face of literature (okay, not a realistic hope, but if you demand that hopes and dreams be realistic, what's the point?)

!!!


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At least your group made it to the boards. Mine never got out of the email first round. Most people just lacked the enthusiasm to do anything in the group....
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Hi. I've posted here before a few times. I'm another one of those too-young ones. And about me? I'm probably one of the most negative people you're going to have the pleasure to meet. It does make me good at critiquing, though. Not that I do much of it, lazy person that I am. I read about four books a week most of the time, and write about a thousand words a day most days. Last night I acutally finished a whole chapter! And didn't get to bed until midnight, but that's a different story... I pretend to be musically inclined. Well, I am but I don't do a thing about it. I figure I'll finish learning to play the keyboard some other time.
I just realized I'm a rather boring person. I have no idea why in the world people actually like me.
Anyway,
--Lila

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If a group doesn't work out (and this has been known to happen before a few times <grin> ), you are welcome to contact me and see about trying again with another group.

If I knew how to spot the people who want to talk about writing and being writers more than they want to actually write, I'd put them in their own group (or tell them to post in these open discussions and let those who really write and are willing to exchange feedback get to work in the groups).

Of course, Life does happen to people--and if it didn't what would some of us have to write about, after all?

But I hope when Life calms down, those who really want to write will give the Hatrack Groups another chance.


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Well, I'm not too young to be here. So there.

hah.

I write words and put music to words, though never do I write the words that I put music to.

I play the fiddle, both Old Time and Irish... my fiddle is lovely and it's from the 1890's, France.

I have a dog, named Gweneviere... who's a vicious, slobbering, lovable, huge dog. With big ears. And a really powerful tail...

I write anything that my characters want to do today, and my friends often ask me who I am.

.... maybe we can just skip that last part.


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Yeah, that's okay. Sometimes I don't think that it's very important what people like to eat in the evenings anyway, since we usually can't have what we really want (and what is that? I wonder myself).
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<grin>

So, tell us Survivor, why you choose your Nick and... be honest.


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It wasn't taken then.

Or to be more precise, I have an affinity for meaningful callsigns that start with S. There are other names that I might have picked, all of them were words, common or not, in English. Several of them started with S. Maybe I was thinking of that picture in the National Gallery The Survivor. It's a word that conjures an ideal of beauty that has little to do with image and much to do with substance.

Some other callsigns I might have chosen include "Wraith", "Serpent", "Shadow", "Armageddon", "Inquisitor", and "Imperator". Just off the top of my head. Survivor happened to be a little closer to the top (partly because I had already used Serpent a little before that).


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Hello to everyone. I'm new. I'm willing to write. I'm signed up to be included in the Groups. It will probably be less time consuming than following forums (which I just started doing two days ago). By the way, my name is Tim and I'm from Phoenix, Arizona. I AM of age to write here, though I sometimes think it would be nice if I wasn't. Adios!

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Hello,

Shawn here. I have been gone awhile! Life got in the way. I was just reading the posts about fizzling writers groups. I am on my second one and this one just sorta trickles along. Problem we are having now is one person didn't feel the need to do my critique but sent their next round. NO explination.

Oh well.

Shawn


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Maybe they had nothing to say.

Which can be good or bad... on the other hand, maybe they forgot or maybe they really had something come up and haven't gotten around to it yet.

Or...maybe they really had nothing to say.

There's a person in our group who sent a chapter and I really had nothing to say about it. Critiques are really served best for a finished piece, not something in the planning stages. So, rather than offer useless advice I said nothing.

Okay, maybe that's not the best approach; but I read the rules coming in... nag nag nag... I know I know. <sigh>

The point is, there is probably a reason why the person didn't critique your work. Ask them. They'll let you know the reason(s).


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Well, I'm _really_ underage for this site (just two weeks short of 14), but i'd like to post here anyway. You can call me Lynn if you like, although it's not my full Chinese name, and I live in Auckland, New Zealand.

I read tons, play the piano (and have begun the violin, but clap you hands over your ears when you hear me play that), and want to be a published writer (like one people ahve actually heard of). Of course, writing might just interfere with my parents pet plans to send me off to med school once I finish school, but since I probably won't get high enough marks to become a doctor anyway....


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Hi there. I shouldn't be here either, but, like a few of you, I don't care. I'm actually two years older than Lynn, so I'm a little closer to the limit. And I'm English.
Funnily enough, I want to be a writer too, and I've already written a full-length novel. I'm just editting it right now (150,000 does not a happy publisher make). I'd like to be a sort of Mike Stackpole author, not hugely famous, but writes for a living (he writes 3 books a year, though, might not be able to write that much).
Survivor, I actually know you, we had a little argument over the concept of souls and clones, and we had a little e-mail thing going on about POV in novels. Haven't heard or seen you since. How are you?
Well, that's me. Laters.
JK

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Hi Guys;
I unfortunately am of age, several times over. I have been reading all of my life, but now that I am writing, I am having even more fun! Adding to that is the fact that my group, #2 is very active and contains some real talent (your correspondent excepted! ;o) ).

I feel very lucky to have landed here so soon after the muse wacked me on the head with her magic wand (or was that a just dead mackerel?...)

Hack On!


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Hey, Ber Thaq, I've actually seen Group 2 (snooping around as usual, shame on me), and you're doing much better than my group. We're purely e-mail, but people seem to have disappeared off the face of the Earth (and I thought I was bad with late crits). Hopefully it's just the Christmas season, because, although I'm as much to blame as anyone else, I hoped this group would work (every other workshop I took part in seemed to die a horrible death, especially the Del Rey one).
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AHHHH! Home at last. Glad the river is still here.
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Well, my name is Justin, not that it matters that much. I live in Miami, Florida, which MOST of you have probably heard of. I think someone else lived in Fl, but w/e. Anyway, I like rock climbing, writing, and making webpages. I'm still in school, and do ok. My im thing is Climber410 and anyone can feel free to im me, but please tell me where your from. Thanks, and hope you get to read my stories and converse. Thanks...

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"Pero yo no la conozco."

"No necesitas conecerla, necesitas saber quie'n ella es."


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I've been gone so long I feel like a stranger. time to get reaquainted.

My name is Laurie and I used to spend a lot of time here on hatrack. Then came computer depridation. I got an MSN Companion for Christmas. Not exactly a computer, but it gets me back in touch. it is just an internet appliance so it's not much help with my writing. I have been offered the use of a computer to work on my story with so between the two maybe I'll get going again.


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Hi! I'm *blush, cough* new and quite frankly, overwhelmed by the intricate workings of topic boards. I am old enough to post here and I have a few questions I'm going to be tossing out with hope for some useful feedback. You'll probably notice that right now I'm most interested in writing, writing, and only writing. I don't get sucked into theoretical or lofty arguments like a lot of the topics seem to be (see below). Please help if you ever notice there's somewhere more appropriate I should be posting.

Oh, and I am currently waiting to be assigned a Writer's Group of my very own. I'm crossing my fingers that it will be an active group, with some great writing and critiques, but if not I'll just keep bugging y'all.

**Clarification: I don't get sucked into theoretical or lofty arguments that deal with *non-writing* topics. I'll gladly wrangle in the mud when it comes to POV or editing or charaterization or...

[This message has been edited by Jessi D (edited January 09, 2001).]


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Personally, when I find that the muse is elusive and my fingers won't write stories that even remotely resemble real life, I find a good argument gets me back on track (gets the intellectual muscles working). I remember starting a great debate/argument a couple of months ago in the Younger Writers' section on whether clones of human beings would share a soul or not. Flexed muscles for weeks before it died.
I'm now waiting for a Group too, seeing as my old one died. I'm hoping for an e-mail only group, because for the time it worked, it worked really well.
MSN, bad voodoo.
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Hi. I'm female, 37, and I've been a draftsman, a bookkeeper, a programmer/analyst, and a system administrator. Right now I'm trading stocks. I do graphics work, and I've been offered commissions but turned them down because I work too slowly to make it worthwhile. In some areas of the visual arts I'm as skilled as anyone, and in others I'm weak; I'm trying to improve some of the areas of weakness because I want to illustrate my stories as well as write them. I'm in the process of rebuilding my desktop computer in order to be able to run high-end 3D applications like Lightwave.

I've already sold both nonfiction and fiction -- I find the former much easier -- but, while I'm serious about writing well, I'm not pursuing professional publication because I dislike marketing the stuff.

My work in progress is a fantasy in narrative verse. I've been working on it for two years. Since it's in verse, I'm writing at a crawl, and critiques before the work is finished are counterproductive for me. While I'm still writing, I need a cheering section/sounding boards/brainstormers rather than critiquers. I haven't signed up for a writing group because I don't know if that would fit anyone else's desires: I'd be out of place in a group where one has to produce completed chapters or stories for critique often.


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Air - there are also writing groups for poetry. You may find that joining a group will get you juices flowing.
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A group of people writing speculative fiction in verse would be ideal, but I've never met anyone else writing narrative verse, and so far, I've turned out to have more in common with prose fiction writers than with poets who aren't writing narratives. There are several reasons for this:

1) The work is extremely lengthy compared to most modern poetry;

2) My versifying is technically competent, so
it isn't a subject I need to discuss, particularly;

3) Formal meter is out of poetic fashion, and I don't usually appreciate free verse, which means I'm not much help to anybody writing typically modern poetry;

4) The stuff I tear my hair out over is plot holes, characterization, narrative flow -- the same issues that concern prose fiction writers.


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