Fine dining(all customs of service)
Botany
Animal husbandry
Agriculture
Nutrition
Food and culinary history

Intermediate

Aquaculture
Astronomy(with emphasis on the moon)
ASL
Biology
Primitive camping

Interests

Insanity
Anthropology
writing sci-fi(all-consuming hobby)

Public Policy Analysis and Development
Environmental Policy Assessment
Environmental Behavioral and Psychology
Evaluation Design and Planning
Constitutional History and Administrative Law

Personal/Amateur:

Zoo Keeper: Colchester Zoo, UK. 77-81
Lion Country Safari, Irvine CA. 81-84
Journeyman Plumber: Orange County, CA. 84-86
Construction Management: Project Superintendent, CA. 84-91
Irrigation systems specialist: Self-employed, CA. 91-present

Interests.

JAPANESE (conversational)--Fluent
I can also pick out the better word to use from a dictionary, if you want help with something more technical

JAPAN'S CULTURE--rural day-to-day stuff. Lived in a city amid an agricultural area with its own dialect.

AMATEUR ANTHRO with the angle of pre-adult culture shock and the resulting bi-cultural perspective.

what mos?

and where are you staitined.

Internationlly collected, multiple award-winning Sculptor (in plastilene [oil based clay]) producing bronze, resins and papercastings, as well as jewelry. One of my bronzes is a world-championship trophy as well as being in a coffee table book.

Trade show vendor (for my art and books)

Lecturer on sculpting and equine photography

Writer (non-fiction how-to book on sculpting just sold out its first edition; novel is on Amazon)

Owner of a small business (Whimsy Hill Studio LLC) for over 10 years.

Singer (many years in the past - 7 years operatic training, but again, many years in the past)

Mother of a multiple-mentally-handicapped child (ADHD, PDD, OCD, ODD, etc., Tourettes, Bi-polar, you name it)

Horse show mother to a now-adult rider who's working her way up to the Pan Am Games and Olympics (eventually) in dressage - but she started out in 4-H, then Pony Club, so we've seen the whole spectrum.

Former riding instructor (forward seat, then hunt seat and western). Still ride, English and western on a Quarter Horse. Used to ride hunter/jumpers in my youth. Know a bit about driving horses too. Also bred horses for a while.

Amateur:

Award-winning photographer (film camera - digitals came in when I got bifocals, so I'm not as good as I once was - and I never developed my own film)

Serious Hobbies (Advanced Amateur)
Belly Dancing
Metaphysical Beliefs with emphasis on Divination (most specifically tarot)
Writing and Reading (who here doesn't have those as hobbies though?)

This place might help you

http://www.vintagev12s.com/home.htm

Your welcome

Lets see..

The "Homeschooling/Unschooling" movement: I was "homeschooled" my entire life, and my family was very active in various homeschooling groups in South Florida when I was younger.

Homebirth/Midwifery: My brother and I were both born at home, and my mother was for some time considering becoming a midwife's assistant.

Breastfeeding.

Anti-immunization issues

I have the personal experience of growing up/living gay in America, including growing up gay in a predominantly Christian household.

I have family members with severe OCD, and have lived with a person diagnosed/in treatment for social anxiety disorder and previously depression.

My father is a musician, and I have considerable knowledge of the music and artists of the 60s and 70s.

Considerable knowledge/trivia as far as movies and television in the fantasy/horror/sci fi genres. Also know a lot about Anime, and a good bit of Japanese culture/religion/mythology/non anime cinema.

In particular I'm extensively familiar with the works/fictional worlds/lives of various writers and shows/series/movies: Tolkien, H.P. Lovecraft, Stephen King, Ray Bradbury, Ursula LeGuin, Babylon 5, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Marvel Comics, etc.

Tarot

Some Kabbalah, occultism in general.

Some astrology

Paranormal/cryptozoological/Fortean studies.

Professional:

mother (eleven years)

I can teach:

sharing
self-control
kind words
time out
and rage management

I'm a watercolor artist, mostly landscapes. Haven't shown/sold in awhile. (I'm writing more than painting these days)

Organic gardens, herbs, veggies, nutrition, dabbled in Macrobiotics.

How to make, where to get, authentic replicas, etc.

I am looking for a pair of new WWII A-3 leather bomber pants, and A-9 bomber flight gloves.

To complete my MAD BOMBER PILOT look. And to wear when I move to Alaska during the winter.

RFW2nd

just hit me up on e-mail

Mining engineering
History
Education and Educational theory

Hobbies:
Model building
chess (both North American and shogi)
geology

Geology
Environmental Science
Consulting Project Management

Experienced/Advanced:

Jungle Warfare
Jungle Survival
Latin America
Spanish
Horses (Paso Fino)
Knife Throwing
Technical Writing
Raising Bi-polar Children
Sailing Small Craft
Panama Canal Zone
Offshore Oil Drilling
Broken Bones (34 at last count)

Hobbies?
this is my hobby, writing and reading

Languages: Slovenian

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Things I think I know lots about but probably don't:
castles & their architecture
medieval costume (made/designed a few things)
medieval art and stained glass
horse riding (did for 8 years, sadly don't any more)
pets, especially cats and fish

Hobbies and interests (other than writing):
singing (classical, folk songs, all sorts)
cooking, especially baking
greeting card-making
pencil drawing & Photoshop
classical guitar
history of medicine
archery
cartography

Thanks anyway.

That would depend entirely on the cave system. If it was a dry system (ie no running water), the storm would make no difference whatsoever, and the cave would be a safe refuge if you needed one.

Caves are formed by running water, though, and many of them do have streamways within them. These are often liable to flash floods. If you've got half the sense you were born with, you don't go near a system like that in bad weather! People do, though. Sometimes they get cut off for a couple of days before the water goes down and people can get to them. Other times they aren't so lucky.

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If you've got half the sense you were born with, you don't go near a system like that in bad weather! People do, though.

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That's the point though, Robert. This bad weather was totally unexpected. That IS what I said. I mean do you usually expect the end of the world?

These are mature, responsible cavers who expected good weather. Something cateclysmic happens while they're down there.

And unless I have to I frankly don't want to have to read half a dozen books on the subject looking for the right information for something that only involves the first chapter. Of course, there are books on Amazon. But wasn't that the point of this expert thread? But thanks anyway.

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That's the point though, Robert. This bad weather was totally unexpected. That IS what I said. I mean do you usually expect the end of the world?

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However, you did not place the 'unexpected weather' in context. Rather than coming across as notably exasperated at RobertB's answer, you could have responded in more detail (hence, providing context) or been appreciative of RobertB's attempt to help.

However, the cause of the severe weather didn't make any difference in what happened while they were in the cave.

I wasn't "notably exasperated." I thanked Robert although he wasn't able to help. I'm sure he would have if he could have. That is the point of this thread, after all.

I simply wanted to know how deep in the cave they would have known something was going on outside and if rain water would flood cave passages as well as what the reaction of the cavers would be other than "none of the weather reports said this would happen." None of the books I glanced at on caving had a thing about extreme weather so I think it would taking a lot of looking to find that. I doubt that's a common occurance or I certainly hope not. I'll make my best guess and get blasted by cavers when I get it wrong. Such is life. The majority of us who think going around in dark caves is a bit insane won't notice.