I prefer science fiction. Love Elizabeth Moon's Vatta's War series. I prefer YA or mid-grade, because I prefer the slightly simpler plot structures, faster pace, and shorter length. (Bonus, they're also generally cheaper when buying them for my ebook reader, the B&N Nook.)

I do read a fair amount of fantasy because that's what's out there. Blue Sword/Hero and the Crown by Robin McKinley are my two all-time favorites. Have also read and enjoyed the Percy Jackson books, Harry Potter, Twilight, etc.

What i need is a non-obvious suggestion. There are plenty of the old masters I've never read (Someone in What I'm Reading Now thread just mentioned a Lois mcmaster bujold book...never read anything by her, for ex.) I great up on Heinlein and Asimov and have a love of that Golden Age sci-fi.

I absolutely can't tolerate Debbie Downers. I don't mind strife and conflict, but books that are hopeless in tone or ending are not for me.

I loved Scott Westerfeld's books - Uglies, Pretties, etc. (and his more mainstream book - So Yesterday.) Scalzi's Old Man's War series is fun and funny but I've had some trouble with his earlier books.

I've enjoyed Gail Carson Levine stories (though not really my cup of tea) - really enjoyed The Magic Thief books 1&2. Recently read a series by Charlie Fletcher that is incredible called Stoneheart (+ two other books.) About kids in present-day alternate-world London where statues come to life.

I'm waiting to read Hunger Games, etc. until the third book is out (I'm a devouerer of series and hate waiting.) Have read Gone and Found (didn't like them enough to read the next ones in their respective serieses, at least not yet.) Have read much of Carman and don't really enjoy him. Lloyd Alexander Prydain series is really good.

Recently read Assassin's Apprentice and enjoyed (liked the first better than 2 and 3) but didn't like how LONG they were (same complaint about Tigana and Elantris.) And anyway, I really would like to read some good science-fiction for balance.

Thoughts? Don't assume I've read the books everyone's read. I feel like my speculative fiction education has big gaping holes in it due to being the only spec fic reader I knew for ages, just blindly working through what my libraries had on hand. I think I have a copy of Gibson's Neuromancer. Should I read that? Is there something better/ more current that makes more sense?

The Burroughs Mars books were on sale on my Nook last week and I bought them because of the low price ($2 for the set of 3 novel/novellas I think.) - should I try those?

The Chalion books (THE CURSE OF CHALION, THE PALLADIN OF SOULS, and THE HALLOWED HUNT) are technically a series, but each stands on its own. You could read them in any order. For me, they read fast. Although not all themes are YA, they're not raunchy or graphic. The Sharing Knife books (BEGUILEMENT, LEGACY, PASSAGE, and HORIZON) look to be a little less stand alone, but at least they're all available.

Gail Carriger's SOULLESS, again not YA, but a fast and generally a fun read. I'd class it as paranormal romance, but it's not raunchy. Not a lot of subplots and complications. Fairly straightforward plot. But a really interesting mix of characters.

Anyway, my point is, I have a few Young Adult books to recommend, but they are mostly fantasy.

"Poisen Study" series by Maria V. Snyder. The series is complete, and the first book stands on its own so you don't have to read the whole series if you don't want to.

Maria V. Snyder also has a scifi book called "Inside Out" which is on my TBR list.

"The Demon Lexicon" by Sarah Rees Brennan is a book I am actively trying to promote. It had a real twisty plot and I loved the dynamics between the two brothers.

"City of Bones" series by Cassandra Clair?? The series is complete. The rommance in it is a little weird, but it is an entertaining series nonetheless.

1. THE BOY WHO REVERSED HIMSELF
2. SINGULARITY
3. INTERSTELLAR PIG

all by William Sleator.

They are easy to finish in an afternoon and pretty good I think from what I remember. I can't wait to read them again. Too bad I couldn't find his other titles. Man, All I need is a bag of Doritos to take me back...

Split Infinity series is okay (watch out for the, um, gratuitous scenes.) I actually liked the Incarnation of Immortality series better, the first novel, On A Pale Horse, was pretty cool in concept. But it's be at least a decade since I read them...so I don't know if they would hold up now.

I'll also recommend my 3 basic classic titles - I still know writers who haven't read them yet, so: Foundation; Wizard of Earthsea; Colour of Magic.

Finally, if it's at all possible that you haven't read it yet (clears throat) - try Ender's Game by OSC.

Yes, read the Burroughs Mars books if you can get them. Remember the earliest is almost a century old...remember this is where certain familiar things in the SF field started...and sample his Tarzan books too if you can get them.

In the creaky old classics category, I'll throw James Blish's Cities in Flight series, usually collected into one book. For something that's action-adventure, there's a lot of philophizing and intellectual underpinning to be had.

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I've thought of Lois McMaster Bujold as a green newcomer...but I guess that must be past now. (Not that I've read much of her work...endless series discourage me.)

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Well, I've come to her works relatively recently. However, a little research brought up awards going back to 1987 and at least two dozen books in print or available as ebooks. That doesn't sound much like a green newcomer to me.

The Chalion books are set in the same world, but really stand alone. The Sharing Knife books not so much, but there are only four. Hardly endless when compared to, say, the Wheel of Time. It looks like there are quite a few more in her science fiction series, though.

I'm not sure how I missed her work for so long, but I'm sure enjoying it now.

Other series like the Vatta series include the excellent Heris Serrano series by Elizabeth Moon. Less military space opera, more steeplechase riding, of all things. This series may be enjoyed out of sequence and is set in the same universe as the Vatta series.

Along similar lines are the Liaden Universe novels by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller. _Agent of Change_ is the first in the set, but they are all out of time order, being about a family or families, and do not follow just a single individual through all the books. More focus on the merchant side of space opera.

Sticking with the merchant aspect of the Vatta series, C. J. Cherryh's Chanur series is a fun one, with great non-human characters, but then I'm a sucker for cats in space. This is classic science fiction, and may not be what you're looking for.

Also classic, (or perhaps vintage) with a mercantile slant, Andre Norton's Free Trader series is definitely young adult, and short, and maybe a little goofy by today's standards, but I love them, and recall reading them for the first time as a kid and thinking how great it was to be able to read.

Of course there is also the military space opera of David Weber's Honor Harrington series. I find I skip some parts of these books, as Weber is a lot more interested in the speeds and feeds of his technology than I am. He has created a fine character in Harrington, though. The most recent novel is the first one to lack plot resolution at the end of the book. Try _On Basilisk Station_, the series opener.

You might also want to look at the Kris Longknife series by Mike Shepherd, as well as Jack Campbell's Lost Fleet series and David Drake's Lt. Leary series. All are military space opera on the lines of Moon's Vatta series, and in Shepherd's case, feature a similarly strong female lead and family entanglements.

I'm sure I'm leaving some out. The Miles series is head and shoulders above the rest in my opinion, but these series are all ones that I pre-order if possible. I've limited my response to character-driven military/merchant space opera series like the Vatta series that are fun, fast, where the good guys always win, and where each book (with the exception of Weber's latest) has an ending with plot resolution.

If I've missed the mark for what you're asking, let me know.

I didn't think to mention but yeah, OSC's Ender's Game is what started me on reading again and writing for the first time about 3.5 years ago. Loved it (and Robert, if you've only read the novella, I think you'd enjoy the novelization, it's a better story in my opinion. More of it makes sense than in the novella...)

I have also read Wizard of Earthsea series and enjoyed it. I like Ursula Le Guin, but Left Hand of Darkness is not the kind of sci-fi I prefer, a little too heavy. I haven't read any of her other sci-fi, though. Asimov and Heinlein were my first sci-fi loves, so I've read most of them, though I gather there's a lot of YA Heinlein wrote that I haven't seen, so I need to keep an eye out or see if those are available on the nook.

Funny that Cities in Flight came up - my librarian friend just recommended it and I found a used copy on Amazon for under $5. It's not available on the Nook so I have to get a real book, shucks. (I like real books so I consume them in somewhat equal measure with the ebook content on the Nook.)

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Question - who wrote: Incarnation of Immortality? I had a little trouble following some of the thread where clearly several of you liked/loved a title, so help me find it, will ya? Thanks so much!!

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But point taken - there are gems to be found. now at least i have a set of authors/titles to look for.

Maybe the market has changed since I used to work in one---this is close to thirty years ago, now, and where did the time go?---but the custom was, the used books were half price. With regular paperbacks approaching ten dollars when brand new, it's still a hefty amount...but my copy of Cities in Flight cost a dollar twenty-five brand new and I imagine any reprint of it from the same era, the 1970s and 1980s, would range from that up to two-ninety-five.

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You mention Heinlein's "YA novels." Though in the era they were called "juveniles" or "boy's books," I suppose the category applies these days. Here'a a list.

Rocket Ship Galileo
Space Cadet
Red Planet
Farmer in the Sky
Between Planets
The Rolling Stones aka Space Family Stone
Starman Jones
The Star Beast
Tunnel in the Sky
Time for the Stars
Citizen of the Galaxy
Have Space Suit—Will Travel
Starship Troopers

All were originally published by Scribnes except the last, which was rejected and published by Putnam. You might also include Podkayne of Mars which was written some time later and has a somewhat different tone than those listed above. I'll recommend them all. (I started with Space Cadet myself---it's the fulcrum my life rests on.)