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Zero
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philocinemas vs Zero
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6

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philocinemas vs Zero
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4

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philocinemas
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BTW, Zero, I'm leaving for vacation on the 21st, and my wife would be pissed if I took my chess board with me. So we'll have to take a break for about a week then.
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No problem, friend. You've been more than patient with me.
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philocinemas v Zero
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5

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(Comments edited - due to philocinemas being a loud mouth moron who gives away key strategies because he can't keep his hands off of the keyboard) - no moves were changed in any way in the editing of this post.

philocinemas v Zero
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2

[This message has been edited by philocinemas (edited November 19, 2008).]


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I should just shut up and play.

[This message has been edited by philocinemas (edited November 19, 2008).]


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philocinemas
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Are you still there?

[This message has been edited by philocinemas (edited November 19, 2008).]


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Zero
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Yes I'm still here. I've been traveling a lot and taking care of various business/personal things lately - so I've been kept away from a chessboard.

But don't worry, I'm still thinking about our game. And I must say I'm flattered that you respect my ches splaying. Thanks for the compliment. I think you may be the better player, but glad to know we're somewhat on the same level.


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philocinemas v Zero
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4

Again, sincere apologies for my schedule, travel, etc. And thanks for the complimnt.


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philocinemas
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No problem; it was forbidden for me to play chess during my family's vacation. And my compliment to you was well deserved.

philocinemas v Zero
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4


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philocinemas
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duh-duh-duuh-duh

dana-duh-duuh-duuh

chchchchchch-chchchchchch

Anyone have a guess where this is from?
Hint: circa 1974


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philocinemas
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Hey, Zero.

I guess no one is watching our game anymore. Do you have any guesses as to where the duh-duh's are from? I'm actually just posting this to remind you that it's your move, but I'm trying to be subtle.


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Yeah I have a hard time with instrumentation being written in word form. I do it too ... I'll be chatting witha friend and have a song in my head and just type it out sometimes. "Dun, dun, dunna nunna nuna ... dun, dun, dunna nunna na!"

But it's a language that's rather hard to interpret.

Anyway, I must say you've been exeplary with your patience and I promise you that vary shortly I'll be finished with this circuit of business travels and work - and then I'll be able to continue the game unimpeded. Unfortunately I don't have a travelling chessboard


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It's alright about the traveling - just didn't know if you had forgotten our game or if something had happened to you.

The music notation is from The Six-Million Dollar Man slow-mo track.

When do you think you'll get back in town?


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Patrick James
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Zero was writing the music to Iron Man. No? Do I get a second guess?

Sorry for sticking my nose in here. Sounded like an invitation was printed above.

quote:
I guess no one is watching our game anymore.

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Patrick James, doesn't Iron Man go - duuh-duh duh-duh-duh, duuh-duh duh-duh-duh?
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Part of Zero's sounds like I Love Rock N' Roll by Joan Jett & the Blackhearts, but I don't think it is. It does sound familiar though, especially the last part. Is it 80's?
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I don't remember. But try this one:

nunna nunna nunna nunna nunna nunna nunna nunna, nuh nuh!


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Kathleen Dalton Woodbury
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Batman. I think you need a comma after the fourth nunna, though.
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Robert Nowall
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I always wanted to know who put the bop in the bop shoo-wop shoo-wop...I mean it from the bottom of my boogity-boogity-boogity shoo...
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The open door/key in ignition on my car plays the opening riff from Star Wars.
Ding! Ding! dadada Ding Ding....

See someone is still watching this. Although I have to admit its like picking at a hangnail for me. I really shouldn't but I just have to look! You guys are funny.

LOL

Leslie


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Patrick James
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Well, it just goes to show that there are people crazier then me on this forum.

boom, boom, boom, boom-ba-boom, boom, boom, boom.


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philocinemas
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My first memory of chess is actually from on old TV series called Family Affair which I watched as a toddler. There was a butler, named Mr. French, played by Sebastian Cabot, who went on to narrate The early Winnie the Pooh movies.

Anyway, he played chess by mail with a friend in England. I don't remember if this was an ongoing thing or just one episode, but for some reason it stood out in my mind. Each move must have taken about a month back in those days.

I tried this once while I was in college, before the Internet, and we got through about 5 moves before we decided to call it quits. My opponent was the most intelligent person I have ever known. He was attending a college in Nevada where only 15 to 20 students were accepted each year and sheep-herding was part of the required curriculum.


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I was in a chess club in high school---I was good, but not that good compared to the Grand Masters. (For one thing, I've never got the hang of "resigning," and usually played the games out to the end, even when they were lost.)

As for our noises-off contest, I'll see your boom-boom-boom-ba-boom, and raise you a-wimoweh, a-wimoweh, a-wimoweh, a-wimoweh...


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As soon as this weekend is over I'll be back to life as normal. hallelujah!
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My 4 year old son likes to take the king and then keep playing; whoever gets ALL the other guy's pieces wins. He plays both sides of the board if no one is available to play with him. And now he wants to go to a chess club. I didn't expect his fascination with the game to continue full steam...
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As a child, I would also play against myself. I would almost always win from the opposite side I started on.

[This message has been edited by philocinemas (edited December 14, 2008).]


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OK travel is complete so we can get back on track, sorry again

philocinemas v Zero
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5


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Zero, I had anticipated that move as a possibility, and I am very tempted to respond with a move of my own. However, I am not in front of my chessboard at this moment, and I'd be afraid to make a grave mistake at this juncture of the game. I will be working late tonight, so don't expect a move until after 8PM.


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Robert"In the village, the peaceful..."
Sorry, about messing around in your chess thread, guys...
Boom-boom, chunk. Boom-boom, chunk...

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phil,

Don't worry about it. Take all the time you need, lord knows I did.

everyone else,

Feel free to "mess around" - I like it. It keeps me entertained.


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I'll start another post.
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The game is afoot!

philocinemas v Zero
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4

I am making an explosive move.


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Ah-ha!

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7


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I'm surprised you did not choose en passant.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2


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So am I.

No, actually, I forgot about that rule. However, after looking at it a second time, I stand by my move of Rb7

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3


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Both had their advantages and disadvantages.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3
23. Qf3


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Ah ha, I had predicted that move.... now here's hoping I didn't overlook anything vital.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3
23. Qf3 Bxc4


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Excellent move. I'm taking my time to consider my options.

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Zero, I commend you on an excellent move. I've looked at all my options in great detail. I had one move that would have given me a remote chance of coming out on top (depending on your response). However, I have decided to take the safer route (dxc4). This puts me one piece up, but without my queen. I am fairly confident that this move will eventually put us in stalemate. Please look this over - if you think you have a chance to break through my defense, we can continue. I honestly do not see how you could do it without sacrificing more king's row pieces or taking the greater part of next year. Please take your time and let me know what you decide - I don't want to pressure you either way.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3
23. Qf3 Bxc4
24. dxc4


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I think the defense can be broken. Either way, give me a little bit of time to consider my move. I want to fight this out to the end. But props for the clever move.
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OK I'm going to do it, I think it's a winable position.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3
23. Qf3 Bxc4
24. dxc4 Rxf3


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Assuming that you just took my queen, here is my response:

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3
23. Qf3 Bxc4
24. dxc4 Rxf3
25. Nxf3


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You probably predicted this move.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3
23. Qf3 Bxc4
24. dxc4 Rxf3
25. Nxf3 f5


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Yes, as I am sure you predicted mine (it it the f-file rook to e1)

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3
23. Qf3 Bxc4
24. dxc4 Rxf3
25. Nxf3 f5
26. Rfe1


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Sorry for the again delay. But today is the last day I work until after the holidays. So bear with me, please.
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That's fine. I left for work at 7:30 AM and I just got home. Happy Holidays!?
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Happy Christmas!!!!

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3
23. Qf3 Bxc4
24. dxc4 Rxf3
25. Nxf3 f5
26. Rfe1 f4


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And merry Christmas to you.

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. Bc4 Be7
5. Ng5 0-0
6. 0-0 d6
7. h3 h6
8. Nf3 Be6
9. d3 d5
10. Bb5 d4
11. Ne2 Bd6
12. Bxc6 bxc6
13. Ng3 Rb8
14. Nh2 Bb4
15. Nh5 Nxh5
16. Qxh5 Rb5
17. a3 Bd6
18. b4 c5
19. Bd2 cxb4
20. Bxb4 c5
21. c4 Rb7
22. Bd2 Rb3
23. Qf3 Bxc4
24. dxc4 Rxf3
25. Nxf3 f5
26. Rfe1 f4
27. Reb1


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