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mythique890
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I was wondering (and I can't find the information anywhere, though it could be because I am not good at finding things) does anyone know if OSC is planning to go back to UVU for Bootcamps in the future?
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Dark Warrior
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I just attended his boot camp in August. He mentioned there that he was considering having them all in Greensboro in the future for various personal and financial reasons...but it was just a discussion, I really dont know if he will or not.
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JenniferHicks
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That would be unfortunate. I can't afford getting myself to Greensboro. If that's where they're going to be from now on, I might as well kiss ever going to boot camp good-bye.
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mythique890
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I would be sad. I'm in the same boat as Jennifer... unless something in my life changes drastically, I'll never make it out there. At the beginning of the year, we lived in Ohio, and I was going to apply. Then about a month before the application deadline, we moved to Utah.

Oh, well. Still a fan and hope he's in good health. That's the most important thing.


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InarticulateBabbler
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Greensboro is the closest for me.

I've been wanting to attend there for some time, but the upheaval of my recent years has thwarted it. Now, I'll have more opportunities if this is right.


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philocinemas
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I went to the two-day class in 2009 at SVU - the price tag of the five-day was a little hefty. However, I live about an hour away from Greensboro, and I am thinking about sending an entry in for next summer.

Of those that have attended the full boot camp, would it be worth it for me to attend again (full price and all) for the extra three days?


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philo, yes, the full Boot Camp is well worth the extra $. The info in the two-day seminar is something it never hurts to hear again and the Boot Camp experience is entirely different. It's an intense workshop that will bring out both the best and the worst things in your writing. It will teach you things you will never forget. You'll end up with both a thicker skin and greater confidence. When you're ready, it's a great thing to do.

And forgive me but I can't agree with people saying they can't afford something, ever. I know there are some truly hard cases of people with such a monetary burden that may be true. But if you can even put $20 per paycheck away, you can save and create a savings for anything you want to do - including Boot Camp in NC. When I worked at a lousy coffee bar, I used my tip money to go to Egypt. If you really commit to saving, you can get there. Start the fund now so that when you get accepted, you're ready. Don't let that be what keeps you from going.


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philocinemas
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Thanks, genevive. I wasn't really worried so much about affording it as I was about justifying the extra days versus the cost. Anyway, isn't that the purpose of credit cards?
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For some of us the cost isn't ONLY the Boot Camp cost. I have to travel, find a hotel, have a special diet, AND have a hard time justifying taking the time off--since my work only pays me if I'm there.
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You're both right IMO. Life is clay in our hands and we often limit ourselves and fail to realize how many opportunities are out there if we but plan for them, and make efforts. E.g. going to Egypt off of saved tips.

But IB makes a good point too, there are other costs including opportunity cost. It's not an indictment against Card for choosing (if he does) to exclusively do bootcamps in NC, just a realization that that may limit some people's ability to attend.

As for me I'd love to go, even though I have no idea what it is. Sounds cool!


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Philocinemas, I found the boot camp worth the extra money. The workshop is an interactive coverage of the material in OSC's "Characters and Viewpoint". However, the boot camp is intensive experience applying those ideas and practices in an environment in which you can compare your performance to others who are struggling to acquire that same competence. I learned as much from the critiques of others that highlighted things I missed as I did from writing my own critiques. It really brings home the idea that half the story is in the head of the reader.

[This message has been edited by anarresti (edited October 16, 2011).]


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Dark Warrior
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I cant even imagine someone working, being able to attend Clarion.
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