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I'm thinking we need a place that we can collect various reporting agencies results and projections, for both the presidential race, but for any Senate race (there are a few humdingers there!).
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ABC is reporting IN, KY, GA for Bush, and VT for Kerry, basically without waiting for any official tallies. It appears SC and VA are a bit more interesting, and the media is holding off on them.
But what does it all mean? I'm assuming nothing unexpected has happened yet? Were those states all predicted to go that way?
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So far the GOP has gained one electoral vote they did not win in 2000. Other then that, these states are going the same way they did last election.
It's 5 states. It means nothing. Ohio, however, is a swing state, and when it's declared that might mean something. Ohio went to Bush in 2000. If Kerry gets it this year, I'd bet he wins.
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Ohio is a BIG state this year, no doubt about it. All of the recaps I have seen about this election have mentioned how crucial Ohio is this year....it won't decide the election by itself, but if Kerry wins it it is a huge blow to the Bush Campaign...
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Whoever wins Ohio has won the presidency for the last how many times running? I can't remember, but it's, like, the swing state in a lot of people's minds.
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NBC says that in the last (I think it was) hundred years no Republican who has lost Ohio has won the election...
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CNN hasn't declared Ohio yet, and on the radio on my way home they said they still have hundreds of people in line at many polling places... anyone in line when the polls officially close gets to vote.
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J Kerry -- 188 total California 55 Connecticut 7 Delaware 3 Dist of Col 3 Illinois 21 Maine [3?] Maryland 10 Massachusetts 12 New Jersey 15 New York 31 Pennsylvania 21 Rhode Island 4 Vermont 3
Who is left, how much do they have, and when do the polls close (or when can the tally be expected)?
7:30pm Eastern Time Ohio 20 *** swing state
8pm Eastern Time Florida 27 *** swing state New Hampshire 4 Pennsylvania 21 *** swing state
9pm Eastern Time Arizona 10 Colorado 9 Michigan 17 *** swing state Minnesota 10 New Mexico 5 Wisconsin 10 *** swing state
10pm Eastern Time Iowa 7 Montana 3 Nevada 5
11pm Eastern Time Hawaii 4 Oregon 7 Washington St 11
1am Eastern Time Alaska 3
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What time did the polls close in OK, anyway? Or after the one single Kerry voter in the state got home, did he just call the networks and say, "Okay, you can call the state now. I'm done."
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Every time I look at the map of the US I'm glad that your elections are not decided by surface area of states won by each candidate.
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CNN has Bush projected as maintaining a solid lead over Kerry, both popular and electoral votes.
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On the main election page, CNN.com has the following (not yet updated):
quote:Bush(Incumbent) popular vote -- 11,181,104 (54%) electoral vote -- 155
Kerry popular vote -- 9,597,542 (46%) electoral vote -- 77
Nader popular vote -- 45,334 (0%) electoral vote -- 0
Of note, thought, is that this is not unexpected. This is the measure of the lead up til this time -- not counting many heavily populated states still to come in and expected to swing blue.
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The Republican party is reporting that they have made big gains in Central Florida counties over their 2000 totals. Fox News verified the numbers. Bush is leading Florida, and contrary to the exit polling, looks like he may pick it up.
Kerry's only hope is that there is enough turnout in heavily democratic counties remaining to offset the gains Bush has made.
Exit polling is proving to be quite unreliable so far... much better to ignore it and look at actual numbers.
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There's something weird about Maine. I don't know the details but there are four total but it's possible they can be split? I heard something about that.
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quote:Under state law, Maine awards two electoral votes to the statewide winner and one apiece to the winner in each of its congressional districts. The state has not split its electoral votes since adopting that system in 1969.
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Yeah... Yahoo has only 3/4 for Kerry, but CNN has Maine with only 3 total.
[Edit] Belle, you're right... according to http://www.fec.gov/pages/elecvote.htm , Maine has 4. Maine and Nebraska can both split their electoral votes.
quote: Whichever party slate wins the most popular votes in the State becomes that State's Electors-so that, in effect, whichever presidential ticket gets the most popular votes in a State wins all the Electors of that State. [The two exceptions to this are Maine and Nebraska where two Electors are chosen by statewide popular vote and the remainder by the popular vote within each Congressional district].
As reported by Mike Barnicale (SP?), the Kerry campaign's polling shows that he is doing VERY well in both Ohio and Pensylvania.
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You know, my visceral loathing for that clot of red states always amazes me when I see it. I mean, seriously, I hate those states. It's like in those old propaganda films by Disney when the Axis octopus spreads its dark, inky tentacles across the globe, and you feel both pity and revulsion for the countries touched. Maybe we can call it the Pecan Pie Belt or something. Posts: 37449 | Registered: May 1999
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It is mostly empty land voting there. This made more sense when we were an agricultural-based economy and when most farmland, although making for empty space, represented real individual investment, and thus real individuals.
Most of that empty space doesn't represent individual interests anymore.
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I just wish something would happen. I know it's good that they haven't declared the close states yet, 'cause they're being careful, but at the same time I want them to get on with it!
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I'm not sure they'll be able to call Pennsylvania. There have been widespread irregularities there, from what I'm hearing, and I wouldn't expect that state to be resolved any time soon.
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What gets me about so many of the Evil Octopus states is that their people are so pro-Bush that it's possible to call them a minute or two after their polls close, probably just by eyeballing the pile.
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I'm assuming nothing unexpected has happened yet? Were those states all predicted to go that way?
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