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If a woman/girl is 18 years old, men of all ages are then legal to date her.
I'm 31 and I find myself extremely attracted to girls 18-26, some people may say this is wrong, or immoral, or what not and ever, but I see it as perfectly normal for a red blooded American male.
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I've always been naturally attracted to women of the same age. But I'm only 20, so in ten years I may still be attracted to 20 year old women. I wouldn't be surprised.
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I fail to see what point you're making. Other than you like girls younger than yourself. A thirteen year age gap wooohh!!! Maybe its the life i lead and the people i know but i don't find this wrong, immoral or surprising.
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What does age matter? older men younger women or vice-versa, it doesn't matter as long as they are consenting adults. I know many a successful relationship where there is an age difference. My wife grew up with a couple where the wife was 10 years older than the husband.
So, to Thor I say, if they will have anything to do with you, have fun.
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Last summer I met a couple where the wife was 35 and the husband was 82. Nothing *wrong* with it, exactly, but it's just weird.
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Well, I've put a little too much thought into this subject and it is a major plot line of the current screenplay I'm writing.
My Younger Women Theories
#1 - The Flower in Full Bloom - It could be argued that a girl/woman is at here peak attractiveness around 18-26. This doesn't hurt.
#2 - The Innocence Factor - I'm attracted to a girl/woman who hasn't had her asskicked by the cold cruel world and has a diamond hard sheen of Jaded. Her more innocent and child like dreams are more likely to still be alive.
#3 - The Ex-Boyfriend Factor - It is my theory that a lot of girls who are 27+ have probably had at least one too many bad boyfriends and will see future relationships through a rose tinted history lense.
#4- The Jedi Master/Apprentice Factor - I don't know, the idea of training and protecting a lover is pretty sexy to me.
So there are 4 great reasons why I find my self all dreamy for younger women, though it should be noted that the youngest I've ever dated under my age is 3 year.
To paraphrase, that's what I love about these college girls, I get older and they stay the same age. Posts: 2752 | Registered: Feb 2001
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quote: It may be out of line, but I would guess that part of Thor's attraction to the younger set is their lower expectations from a dating partner.
I mean, a nice looking single woman in her late 20's early 30's is probably looking for a guy with, oh, I don't know... A JOB!
Oh, slashy pooh, you crack up me, and jab me at the same time. I wouldn't say that women in late 20's to early 30's are looking for a guy with a Job, they are looking for a guy with a GOOD job.
Right now, being the King of America is worse than being a septic tank cleaner, and it doesn't even pay shit, but I have faith.
You really think I'm going to let all of this talent go to waste???
Your point brings me back to another reason I'm interested in younger women.
#5 - The Marriage Fantasy - I believed in it for 31 years. Kiss that goodbye. It's probably not in the cards for me.
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..and slashy pooh, I have no expectations of even dating anyone for the next two years. Sure. I'll kiss a few girls, but a brother without a job ain't gonna date no one.
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I just wrote a ripping post, then I remembered that Peter Pan is a tragedy.
A real man considers the woman first, and would never do anything to hurt her. Just keep that in mind.
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quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just wrote a ripping post, then I remembered that Peter Pan is a tragedy.
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Ok. Girl finds her prince charming, and then they live happily ever after. With her as a Princess. In a Castle. Waited on Hand and Foot. With the Kingdom's job being to serve her.
A very, very real tragedy indeed.
When people joke about Walt Disney being evil, I always think of the Legend of Cinderella, and how much it has damaged the mind of the modern girl.
If you need me to go deeper into why the Myth of Cinderella is bad, I will.
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O-o-ohh.... so Cinderella is a tragedy for you, because of the high expectations it creates in the minds of women. It's good for Cinderella, though.
quote: O-o-ohh.... so Cinderella is a tragedy for you, because of the high expectations it creates in the minds of women. It's good for Cinderella, though.
...hmmm. How many dead marriages suffered from highly impossible expectations?
Cinderella translates to a tragedy in real life.
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Thor, are you sure you know what the definition of a tragedy is?
Hamlet is not a tragedy because it makes life harder for men who marry their dead brother's wife. It's a tragedy because everyone in the play dies. Romeo and Juliet is a tragedy because the characters died and their families had to live the knowledge their mutual hate killed their children. Oedipus is a tragedy because the central character ripped his life apart. Peter Pan is a tragedy because his own life is stuck; in essense, he's damned. Just like *********HARRY POTTER SPOILERS*********** NearlyHeadless Nick is a tragic figure as he explains why he doesn't know what happens after this life, because he'll never be there.
Cinderella is not a tragedy - the story isn't. You may not like the ramifications of it, but it isn't a story given to us by aliens for the purpose of behavior modification. For whatever reason, it came from us and resonates within us. Unless you think all girls are easily brainwashed - which is within the realm of possibility - then Cinderella isn't going to create anything that isn't already there.
The only way Cinderella can be a tragedy is if something tragic happens to Cinderella.
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quote: For whatever reason, it came from us and resonates within us.
I'm sure if someone wrote a modern tale about the geeky, dorky kid who is held down by bullies and the trappings of society, only break out and be rewarded for being a good guy with inherit a kingdom and a harem of beautiful women, it would resonate amongst men.
I realize the story of Cinderella isn't a tragedy, but I think it's effects on girls can be tragic.
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Cinderella will become a tragedy once she realizes that her husband (Prince Charming) is married to two other women and murders him in his sleep.
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I don't think women hit their stride until 25 and don't peak until forty. Before then, they don't even look fully grown. An 18 year-old girl of sensible habits is going to make an even more attractive 33 year old woman. All of those sins that prematurely age women: booze, cigarettes, and cheese cake, if abstained from or moderated to an acceptable proportion, can yield glowing 35 year old women with healthy skin and robust sexual appetites, while still decently sized in the beam. When you combine those lower virtues with true Virtue of the light of knowledge that comes along with fifteen more years of good books and travel, the product is divine.
There is a saying, "I like a man with a future and a woman with a past." While I think that a woman should have both a past and a future, I appreciate in the author's sentiment.
There is no beauty like beauty in a mature woman. Her looks will be softened and added to by comfort with herself and knowledge of the world.
Some 18 year olds are attractive, but generally they are lacking the experience to be truly beautiful.
Men who never outgrow loving girls of this age are men who never grew up, and never want to. Hence, the tragedy of Peter Pan.
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"Men who never outgrow loving girls of this age are men who never grew up, and never want to. Hence, the tragedy of Peter Pan."
True, because eventually, their age will be too great to hold any attraction at all for young women. They will die sad and lonely. Yuck.
I'm glad my husband still loves my fat, almost forty body with the sagging boobs and aches in both knees and feet. It's because he loves ME, no matter what age I am.
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I'm mostly with Irami and Slash, but I have been lucky to find some more mature younger women. I've been told I'm 25 going on 40, and the wide-eyed and innocent just don't do it for me anymore.
Kinda like cotton candy... really sweet, but really nothing to it.
I used to go with the "half your age plus 7, rounded up" rule... which would put me at 20 for my lower limit. Sounds almost right, but at this point, 22 is looking like the lower bound. I haven't seemed to find an upper bound as yet, but I'd probably estimate between 30-35.
All I have to say, Thor, is please don't ever take a job in a high school. The 14 year olds look 18, and the 18 year olds look 24. It's gotten to the point that I'm tempted to card every girl I meet... or at least make sure they can talk convincingly about cartoon shows of the early 80’s. Posts: 3960 | Registered: Jul 2001
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I'm pretty much completely indifferent to age altogether. The qualities that I find attractive in a person are not those that seem to change much over the years. I don't know what to call it except maybe an inner light. The light of the person, of who they are. I can see it shining through at any age and someone with a clear true light is attractive to me.... either as a friend, or if a single guy, as a guy. (Well, non-single guys can also be attractive to me as guys, but only in a hands off way like in an art museum. ) I realize, though, that most of the world does not share my age indifference.
I have close friends of all ages, from babies/toddlers (though they keep growing up so fast) to elderly. I don't see them as being different sorts of people by ages. They're all people. I don't see that their feelings or responses are much different from each other based on age. It's more based on who they are. And people I've known from early childhood through maturity are each the same person now that they were then. Who they were didn't really change at all, just their level of sophistication. It's the same light inside. The same person.
I've seen marriages work between people with vastly different ages. I would not mind marrying someone of a vastly different age from me, provided he was the right person.
I feel a vague objection to Thor's statement based on what seems like a lack of seriousness, perhaps. I think if what he means is he wants to date a different young woman every few years, turning the old one in for a new model, for the rest of his life, then I think that's a shame. I think he's going to miss the most important and coolest most fun stuff that way.
I do want to say that a girl who has sense is going to have her own perfectly wonderful job, and not look at guys as economic units but as people. It's been my experience that scads of beautiful, well educated, intelligent, interesting professional women are interested in dating guys based on their hearts and spirits, and are not looking for economic generators. I think to look at a guy based on his money or potential for making money is totally yucky. What are you going to do if he loses it? Becomes disabled and can't work? Are you going to quit loving him then?
It's funny, Thor, but I had a weird dream once that you would be the type to love a series of young girls and discard them one by one. My first hatrack dream. <laughs> Write me if you're interested in hearing my dream.
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The Cinderella story and its like are a major cause of dissillusionment, I think. I went to school with a LOT of girls whose goal was to meet a perfect guy and get married.
But then What? I mean it. If that's the POINT then you should just be shot and stuffed on your wedding day.
Ron, my beloved, recently told me I look different than when I was younger. Now, I used to be really thin and all that, so I almost immediately thought about aging. But he said I looked more exotic and confident. The exotic comes from the semi-epicanthic folds I have becoming more obvious as my eyelids loosen with age. I look more Asian now than I ever did, and people often mistake me for a lightish-skinned Middle Eastern woman. * shrug*
But the confidence tghing is true. Only recently have I learned to not be timid about things. I'm also finding that I am quite good at not wasting my time or emotional energy on idiots, worrying what people I don't like think about me. LOL
My mom was always gorgeous, but hers grew with age as well. I remember thinking at my wedding reception that she was the most beautiful person in the room, and the life of the party.
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A chinese friend once told me there was an age-based equation for picking the optimal ages for two people in a successful couple. I don't remember exactly what it was.
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My wife is making me post her theory that an older man mearly looks for a younger mate due to instinct, she being more able to reproduce at a younger age.
I myself appreciate a nice fine--OOOWWW!!!
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I've been attracted to a few considerably older men in my time, but interestingly, it was because they treated me like a mature adult that I found them so interesting.
I don't think it's so much a matter of age, but of maturity. I don't seem to fare well with immature males because I can't stand being around them for more than a few days - the novelty wears off.
Ah, but when you meet that man who is interested not so much in you in a pair of Calvin Kleins as you in a philosophical debate, that's the really attractive part.
Sigh. Maybe I'm just living in my own fantasy world.
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I'm much more interested in a girl in a philosophical debate than a girl in the latest fashion craze. However, I haven't met any girls who are any good in a philosophical debate...
::ducks and covers::
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Having run the gamut of age relations, I think it's not so much a matter of maturity (read: civility and staidness) as being on enough common lambdas to stick a relationship. The wider the age gap, the fewer the lambdas.
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i agree that actual chronological age doesn't matter *too* much, but i also think if you are in two different stages of life that it may be peachy in the beginning but be prepared for serious struggles in the not so distant future.
i agree a lot with what slash and irami said, but i also find great beauty in the enthusiasm and freshness of young women. but that doesn't mean i think older men should be chasing after them. after all, the relationship usually ends not long after the prey is caught. bleah. it just feels all too much like a rabbit hunt to me.
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"Ah, but when you meet that man who is interested not so much in you in a pair of Calvin Kleins as you in a philosophical debate, that's the really attractive part."
You know, I don't want anyone getting the wrong idea: if the guy isn't interested in your figure in a pair of Calvin Kleins (or other tight-fitting clothing), you're going to have a bad relationship even if he finds you intellectually stimulating.
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