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Beren One Hand
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The Ender Defense or The Ender Theory - After Junior's failed coup d'etat, he tries to mount the "Ender Defense" (i.e. ends justify the means). Ender argues against this defense, and in turn, condemns his own actions in the xenocide.

Apostle to the Ramen - Hey, if we followed the "must have Ender" rule, the third book would've been called Ender's Children instead of the awesome title, Xenocide.

The Life of Ender -To steal the title of one of my favorite book titles in the Enderverse, The Life of Human.

Ender and Valentine- Everyone loves Val. [Smile]

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Scott,

I think that this is the most times you have ever posted in a thread in such a short period of time. [Evil]

So you coming to OrneryCon this year? [Big Grin]

I just want to know when you are going to write the next PastWatch.

msquared

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TomDavidson
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You know, I'd actually love to see a book named for and largely about Valentine, or else tightly following Valentine's perspective. She's still the enigma, really. We know what motivates Ender, and now we have a good view of Peter, but we still have no idea what Valentine's really thinking.

How, for example, would Valentine deal with Achilles?

[ March 10, 2005, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]

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msquared
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Tom

Valentine and Randi competing for the soul of Randi's baby? One with hate the other with love.

Ender's Valentine would be a good title then.

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quote:
Ender: The Quickening
[ROFL]
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Serious suggestions:

-Ender's Exile
-Speaker Andrew

Funny ones:

-The Endersey? It could have a prequel called the Alaiad!
-Speaker Ender (or: How I learned to stop belly-button inspecting and love the Hive-Queen)
-Deconstructing Ender

-Bok

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I haven't read SotG yet either, so I'm going a bit blind, but what about Ender's Light (a play on Ender's Shadow )?

Some of these are funny. Please continue. [Smile]

[ March 10, 2005, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: sarcasticmuppet ]

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MidnightBlue
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[Party] [Party] [Party]

(I'm in study hall and my friend's looking at me funny for being so excited!)

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AntiCool
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Ender's Bender a very special story about Ender's dalliances with alchohol and drugs, and the consequences of such.
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MidnightBlue
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Ender's Shadow's Shadow, or Ender's Shadow^2
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I’ll throw my hat in:

Some fun ones;

Ender’s Pitstop

Ender’s Layover

More serious ones, depending on the direction of the story (hence the parenthetical comments—no offense intended if they seem unnecessary):

Ender Speaks OR Speaking of Ender (grows into his Speaker role)

Ender Lives (could allude to many things, perhaps overcoming deepest levels of guilt to a tolerable level)

Ender’s Heel (in reference to the other Achille, assuming he is confrontational)

Ender’s Ends (does he accomplish or set out to accomplish anything major here?)

Ender’s Evolution (broad allusion to a transition, maturation)

Ender’s Change

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AntiCool
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quote:
Ender Speaks OR Speaking of Ender (grows into his Speaker role)
That story has already been written, and it's called Investment Counselor.
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I'm Afraid I've Got Some Bad News, Ender: You're In Space

Ender 2: Electric Boogaloo


Um....

[Edit -- apparently there's a spoiler for something here. Not sure what. So here's the warning, I guess. But if you haven't read all the Ender/Shadow books, you shouldn't be giving suggestions anyway. So there. Nyeh.]

I was gonna say Ender's Heel, but was beaten to it. It also kinda depends on what the plot holds for Ender and the Beanlet (no, that's not a title suggestion). Are they gonna get along? Are they gonna battle? Does proto-Jane get involved? Is the focus Ender's search for a planet for the Hive Queen? Ender's Search or Ender's Bridge?. Since he's going to another colony that was time-dilated, everyone's still going to remember him without much time going by -- is he beginning to try to obscure himself already? Has his reputation as the "Xenocide" already taken hold? Is it beginning to? Ender's Fall or Ender's Demise?

<Will keep thinking.>

--Pop

[ March 10, 2005, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: Papa Moose ]

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Miro
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Pop brings up a good point. If this is the point at which Ender first deals with his new place in history, how about Ender the Xenocide?
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What shame to choose this of all 24 hour periods to go to sleep early and sleep in late.

*weeps*

Ender's Gambit kind-of has a ring to it.

And Valentine is an enigma, in many ways.

Ender's Enigma?

*Heads out the door reluctantly to work*

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TomDavidson
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I think combining the two things I'd really like to see -- the world from Valentine's perspective, and Ender's reaction to becoming known as a mass-murderer -- would give us enough guilt to power a colony for decades. [Smile]
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So Ender's Guilt then? Or Ender's Remorse?
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Ender's Dilemma... [Razz]
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Which brings us 'round to Ender's Shame and the nice lil' rhyme. [Big Grin]
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Enders’ Bridge Over The Troubled Water
[ROFL]
Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

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Ender's Bridges of Madison County [ROFL]
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Ender, Wiggin' Out

<---so sorry, just caught a recap of American Idol..Seacrest out.

okay, just to throw out a few:

Ender Evolution
Ender's Flux
The Passage of Ender

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Ender and the Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day
Ender and the Chocolate Factory

[ March 10, 2005, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: AntiCool ]

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Ender Wiggin and the Half-Blood Alien

Ender Wiggin and the Chamber of Formics

Ender Wiggin and the Prisoner of Ansible

[ March 10, 2005, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: sarcasticmuppet ]

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Ela
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Some of these titles sound like soap operas, others like bad scifi movies. [Eek!]

[ROFL]

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Ender and the Bad Sci-Fi Movie. [Eek!]
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Ender Strikes Back?
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The Eye Of Ender?
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[ROFL] I needed this thread to give me a good laugh. And the new Ender book will be cool too... [Razz] I confess I've been so swamped I haven't done any reading for a while and I still need to go by SotG.

AJ

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Never Ender
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*groan*
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How about: Boy Enderupted
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Ender's Giant
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Ender the Dragon
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Crouching Bean Hidden Ender
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Mark
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Ender and the Giant
Ender and the Shadow of the Giant.
Ender and the Giant's Shadow

My favorite so far is "Ender and the Bean Stalk." Plays on the whole giant thing without mentioning "giant"!

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Enders Duty

Enders Cross
(andrews cross)

Enders Infamy

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Ender, Search for a Perfect Planet

Edit:

Ender, Formic Diplomat

Ender the Negotiator

Ender's Interpratation

Ender's Redemption

Ender's Path

Ender's Plan

Ender's Search

Edit of the Edit:

Ender's Meditation

Ender's Calling

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I really like Ender's Exile.

Other thoughts:

Ender Wandering
Ender's Course
Ender Abroad
Ender Adrift

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Ender's Suffering

Ender, Shadowed by the Giant

Ender's Decision

Ender's Sin

Ender, New Age Prophet

(not seriously) Ender, Still Kicking

Ender's Revenge

Ender's Memories

Ender's Sister

Ender's Mind

Edit:

Ender's Jeesh

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I really liked

Ender Adrift

and

Ender the Xenocide

The latter because if the book deals with the hatred that grows toward Ender's actions, it would fit perfectly.

The former is suitablly sad and indicative that Ender has not yet found his purpose or calling as a speaker.

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Hm....

Thoughts!

Ender Reviled (if he is beginning to become hated. It may be that Achilles II has something to do with Ender's reputation turning around, alongside The Hive Queen making the human race ashamed of itself).

By the way, is Starways Congress beginning to form around this time? If so, would there be pressure on Ender to run for Hegemon or something? (Ender for President)

Ender's Growth (an idea I liked for all of two seconds until I realized it sounds like our hero has a tumor).

Another thought: If Starways Congress is getting off the ground, and we're still in a timeframe in which genetic research is looking for a cure for Bean, might this be the point in time when they start experimenting with Path? Is there a role Achilles II might play in that? After all, if Ender meets him as an adult, Achilles II will have figured out that there is something very wrong with him and may be carrying quite the vendetta against humankind.

Ender's Path

Ender's Road

Ender's Heart (if it's a Valentine-focused novel. Which I would very much like to see -- Valentine as a youngish woman. Eh, who am I kidding. I would like to see Valentine at my age. I'm 25 now, so if the novel comes out in say, two years, shoot for making her 27.) The title itself is a bit cheesy, though.

Ender's Solitude (perhaps less harsh than Ender Reviled)

Ender Wandering

Ender Connected (Connecting? Connects?)

With Achilles II there, and possibly a member of the jeesh running the colony... wow. Ender really cannot seem to get away from his past. Almost like a dark presence following him, dooming him to remember... oh, wow! I have a title. It's coming to me. Wait for it...

Ender's Shadow!

Oh. Nevermind. Too bad, though.

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Ender-Ourosboros...

I think that is how that word is spelled.

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I still like Ender, Formic Diplomat .........
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quote:
That story has already been written, and it's called Investment Counselor.
I've actually been waiting for school to be over so I could come back and ask this question: Is this book going to include a bit of the Investment Counselor story? Also in response to the quote, Investment Counselor only told about how he first came to know of Speaking, not really how he first started doing it himself (if I remember correctly).

If the new book involved Ender speaking at all, you would have to take into account the Investment Counselor timeline any way. (Well, you wouldn't have to, but whatever.)

*goes back to actually read the rest of the second page*

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Ender's Regret

Ender's Defeat

Endangered Ender

Ender's Inner Demon

(This all suck! [Cry] )

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MidnightBlue
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Are there any words out there that haven't been coupled with Ender and thrown in as a title?
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Ender's Regret

Ender's Defeat

Endangered Ender

Ender's Inner Demon

(These all suck! [Cry] )

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Um... I'm not so good at the funny. Oh, well. It is, however, really cool to see the attention Mr. Card is paying the site these past 24 hours. I personally think there are a few titles here that could really work and a few that are just awesomelly funny. Wish I was creative enough to contribute either. Oh, well. A full day at school with my students usually destroys the old brain juices for a good couple hours.

Keep it up guys. It would be great for a suggestion to make it all the way to the cover.

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Pop! That word choice was a big-time spoiler. [No No]
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