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So far i've read: Shadow Puppets, Shadow of the Hegemon, Ender's Shadow, Enchantment, Heartfire; Homebody, Treasure Box, Children of the Mind, Pastwatch, Alvin Journeyman, Earthborn, Earthfall Ships of Earth, Lost Boys, The Memory of Earth, Xenocide, The Folk on the Fringe, Prentice Alvin, Treason, Red Prophet, Wyrms, Seventh Son, Speaker for the Dead, Ender's Game, Hart's Hope, and Songmaster. I just recently got Lovelock and Worthing Saga(which i'm reading now). I was wondering if I am considered a OSC fanatic or if i have to read EG about 33 or so more times to be included.
PS- Does anyone know where i can find OSC books cheap b/c after the flood that hit my area i lost every book i had. Good thing i read most of what i had and took the books i just recently bought with me when i was evacuated.
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Usually you can find lots of OSC paperbacks on ebay for pretty cheap. I don't know what I'd do if I lost my OSC collection, having invested in so many first edition hardbacks and a few new bookshelves to hold them all.
Here is what I've read so far:
Flux The Changed Man Cruel Miracles Monkey Sonatas Unaccompanied Sonata Doorways First Meetings
Masterpieces Future on Fire Future on Ice Empire of Dreams and Miracles
The Memory of Earth The Call of Earth The Ships of Earth Earthfall Earthborn
Sarah Rebekah
Saints
Seventh Son Red Prophet Prentice Alvin Alvin Journeyman Heartfire
Ender's Game Speaker for the Dead Xenocide Children of the Mind Ender’s Shadow Shadow of the Hegemon Shadow Puppets
A Planet Called Treason Songmaster Folk of the Fringe
Eye for Eye/The Tunesmith Lost Boys Enchantment Lovelock Pastwatch: The Redemption
Hey, I've got redundant paperback copies of a lot of titles in my collection that I keep around specifically for the purpose of spreading the OSC bug throughout the world, I'd be happy to mail them along to you to help you out starting a new collection. E-mail me at lacytv@msn.com
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You could check used book stores. I found a nice copy of Songmaster, and it only cost $2.00. That's $2.00 Canadian, so that's about, what, a dime American? Posts: 1855 | Registered: Mar 2003
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After reading all the books you guys have read by OSC, it makes me feel like just a wannabe. I thought by reading EG 12 times made me a fanatic but I guess not.
So far I have read:
Ender's Game Speaker for the Dead Xenocide Children of the Mind Ender's Shadow Shadow of the Hedgemon Shadow Puppets Seventh Son Red Prophet
I guess I will have to read some more to try to be considered a fanatic. Posts: 9 | Registered: Jul 2003
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Alright...let's see if I can remember them all. I pride myself in that I've read 29 of his books, and have about 5 more on the nightstand to read after I finish these damn school books.
Ender's Game Speaker for the Dead Xenocide Children of the Mind Ender's Shadow Shadow of the Hegemon Shadow Puppets
Seventh Son Red Prophet Prentice Alvin Alvin Journeyman Heartfire
The Memory of Earth The Call of Earth The Ships of Earth Earthfall Earthborn
Songmaster Treason (I am in the midst of getting A Planet called Treason, however) Enchantment Pastwatch Treasure Box Sarah Wryms Lost Boys Lovelock The Folk of the Fringe The Worthing Saga Capitol (I'm very proud of that one)
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I figured I may as well go ahead and post my list, seeing as there's been some additions since the last time I posted it.
Currently I have everything on the following list signed except for maybe 5 or 6 items. Card was generous to sign most of it at the SP signing in VA.
Novels I Own(some short stories overlap in novels) ___________ Songmaster-1 HB, 2pb Maps in a Mirror-HB Lovelock-1HB, 1 pb (signed by OSC and KHK) Stone Tables-pb The Abyss-HB Hart's Hope-1pb,1HB Sarah-HB Rebekah-HB Hatrack River-HB Alvin Wandering-HB Alvin Journeyman-1HB, 1pb Heartfire-1hb,1pb Homecoming Harmony-HB The Call of the Earth-1HB,1pb Earthfall-HB Earthborn-HB First Meetings-HB(deluxe edition) First Meetings-HB(limited edition (350 copies)) First Meetings-HB(second edition) Ender's War-HB Ender's Shadow-HB Shadow of the Hegemon-HB Shadow Puppets-1HB, 1 printed copy Magic Mirror-HB Children of the Mind-pb Xenocide-pb Speaker for the Dead-2pb Prentice Alvin-pb Red Prophet-pb Seventh Son-pb The Memory of Earth-pb The Ships of Earth-pb Homebody-pb Lost Boys-pb Treasure Box-pb Pastwatch The Redemption of Christopher Columbus-pb Enchantment-pb Wyrms-pb Treason-pb The Worthing Saga-pb Hot Sleep-pb The Folk of the Fringe-pb A Woman of Destiny-pb Ainge-pb (signed) Saintspeak-pb(signed) Capitol-pb Unnacompanied Sonata-pb The Elephants of Posnan-audiocassette Angles and Other Stories-audiocassette (signed) The Mormons-pb Saints-pb A Storyteller in Zion-pb Character and Viewpoint-pb How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy-HB Listen, Mom and Dad-HB Ender's Game-pb Cruel Miracles-pb The Changed Man-pb Flux-pb Doorways-pb
Poetry _____ Prentice Alvin and the No Good Plow-Maps in a Mirror Abel, Cain-BYU studies 21:1 Openings-BYU studies 21:2 Tin Men-Unaccompanied Sonata O Hurried Guest-Doorways Short-Lived Creatures-Doorways On Another Road-Doorways Doorways-Doorways Fires-Doorways Echo-Doorways Walking On Water-Doorways This Is The Poem I Made Then-Doorways Public Father-Doorways Don't You Remember The End of the World?-Doorways A Poem For Erin's First Christmas-Doorways
Edited _____ Future on Fire-pb Future on Ice-1HB,1pb Black Mist-pb Masterpieces-HB Dragons of Darkness-pb Dragons of Light-pb Empire of Dreams and Miracles-pb
Other ____ Pictures of OSC I've Taken A poster signed by OSC (Jake Lloyd reading EG) A Shadow Puppets Poster Dramatized Church History-audiocassettes Secular Humanist Revival Meeting-audiocassette
Plays ____ A Dixie Christmas Carol-printed copy
Short Story Sources (I'll list the actual Short Stories Afterwards)(Some overlap with novels) __________ Maps in a Mirror Flux The Changed Man Cruel Miracles First Meetings Future on Ice The Worthing Saga Hot Sleep The Folk of the Fringe Far Horizons Dragons of Darkness Chrysalis 5 Chrysalis 8 Legends-pb Legends-audiocassette Unaccompanied Sonata Future on Fire The Bradbury Chronicles The Elephants of Posnan Angles and Other Stories The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction Dec 99--Palm Pilot Christmas For the World In the Shadow of the Wall Analog April 78 Analog May 78 The Leading Edge Issue 41 Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine June 87 Printed Copy of Atlantis Printed Copy of Chapter 12: The Perpetual Motionist Printed Copy of Missed Vigor 11 Printed Copy of Worthy to Be One of Us Printed Copy of Heal Thyself Printed Copy of Neighbors Printed Copy of Waterbaby Printed Copy of God Plays Fair Once Too Often Printed Copy of Homeless in Hell Printed Copy of Ender's Game Amazing Stories Summer 99 Turning Hearts: Short Stories on Family Life Doorways Dragon Quintet Stars First Meetings (Second Edition)
Short Stories I Own ________________
Worthing Saga ____________ ____________ The Worthing Chronicle ------------
The Day of Pain The Making of Parchment and Ink A Book of Old Memories The Devil Himself The End of Sleep Waking the Children Winter Tales Getting Home Worthing Farm In the Image of God Acts of Mercy The Day of Justice
Tales of Capitol --------------
Skipping Stones Second Chance Lifeloop Breaking the Game Killing Children What Will We Do Tommorrow?
Tales from the Forest of Waters ----------- Worthing Farm Worthing Inn The Tinker
Capitol Stories not in Saga ________________ A Sleep and A Forgetting A Thousand Deaths (also in Maps in a Mirror, etc.) Burning When No One Remembers His Name, Does God Retire? The Stars That Blink
The Folk of the Fringe _____________
West Salvage The Fringe Pageant Wagon America
Short Stories/Novelettes/Novellas __________ The Polish Boy Investment Counselor Ender's Game Eumenides in the Fourth Floor Lavatory Quietus Deep Breathing Exercises Fat Farm Closing the Timelid Freeway Games A Sepulchre of Songs Prior Restraint The Changed Man and the King of Words Memories of My Head Lost Boys Clap Hands and Sing Dogwalker But We Try Not to Act Like It I Put My Blue Genes On In the Doghouse The Originist Unaccompanied Sonata A Cross-Country Trip to Kill Richard Nixon The Porcelain Salamander Middle Woman The Bully and the Beast The Princess and the Bear Sandmagic The Best Day A Plague of Butterflies The Monkeys Thought 'Twas All in Fun Mortal Gods Saving Grace Eye for Eye St. Amy's Tale Kingsmeat Holy Malpractice Follower Hitching Damn Fine Novel Billy's Box The Best Family Home Evening Ever Bicicleta I Think Mom and Dad are Going Crazy, Jerry Gert Fram Adagio and Benediction Hart's Hope Grinning Man Feed the Baby of Love The Elephants of Posnan Angles Homeless in Hell Worthy To Be One of Us Christmas At Helaman's House 50 WPM Happy Head Waterbaby Heal Thyself God Plays Fair Once Too Often Neighbors Missed Atlantis Chapter 12 of The Perpetual Motionist Vessel (ebook) Notes from a Guardian Angel (Being copied and sent to me) Dust In The Dragon House Inventing Lovers On The Phone Teacher's Pest
Related to OSC ____________ Year's Best SF7-Under's Game (Ender's Game Parody)
Other ____ Pictures of OSC I've Taken A poster signed by OSC (Jake Lloyd reading EG) A Shadow Puppets Poster Dramatized Church History-audiocassettes Secular Humanist Revival Meeting-audiocassette Tshirts-Enemy's Gate is Down, Endercon, Dragon Phoenix Salamander and Rat Armies Endercon Nametag (Signed) Endercon Schedule Pamphlet
*Ender's Game *Speaker for the Dead *Xenocide *Children of the Mind
*Ender's Shadow *Shadow of the Hegemon *Shadow of the Giant
Seventh Son Red Prophet Prentice Alvin Alvin Journeyman Heartfire
Lost Boys Pastwatch: The Redemption... *Enchantment *Lovelock Treason *The Worthing Saga Songmaster Hart's Hope *Sarah *Rebekah Stone Tables
*First Meetings (4 stories) A Storyteller in Zion (all the stuff in that) Maps in a Mirror (all the gazillion short stories in that)
Wow. I've read quite a bit. I must point out the huge gap where I haven't read the homecoming series...I don't know, I just haven't felt drawn to that one, but after this thread, I'm gonna have to read it just so I can add it to my repertoire. Posts: 6415 | Registered: Jul 2000
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Mikal, the screen is based on the name that Bean took in Shadow of the Hegemon as a Thai commander he didn't like the idea of just tiger for a name he wanted something that was fun to right basically in thai it means "Awaiting Cremation" because Achilles pretty much thought that bean was only around b/c he let him and he was just walking around til Achilles got rid of him. I would have to say the most prized book i had that i lost was an autographed first edition printing of Shadow of the Hegemon that i got on ebay. By the way thanks for everyone's suggestions on sites to look for.
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I think CalvinMaker just likes to post his list every once in a while to put the newbies in line.
Narnia, I haven't read the Homecoming series yet either! I agree in that I have never felt the real desire to...maybe someday.
To follow Narnia's format *= books I own, and just for fun I listed which ones I have signed :
*Ender's Game (signed) *Speaker for the Dead (signed) *Xenocide (signed) *Children of the Mind (signed) *Ender's Shadow (signed) *Shadow of the Hegemon (signed) *Shadow Puppets (signed) *First Meetings (second edition- four stories)
Seventh Son Red Prophet Prentice Alvin Alvin Journeyman Heartfire
*Sarah (signed) *Rebekah (signed)
*Stone Tables (signed)
*Saints (signed)
*Lost Boys Worthing Saga Homebody *Enchantment Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus Songmaster
*Doorways (signed)
Maps in a Mirror
Magic Mirror
I also own Storyteller in Zion (also signed) and Lovelock (not signed), but I haven't read either of them yet. Next on my list!
I'm also thinking of reading Hart's Hope, but I'm hesitant because of the mixed reactions I've heard.
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I've only been reading OSC books for a little over a year, and at first I didn't even know I was reading sci-fi (I got Ender's Game in the Young Adult section and Ender's Shadow for my birthday). It was a big shock to realize I liked science fiction. I've only just started to read his other series (Is there a plural of series?) so this is what I've read (and I own all of them.)
Ender's Game Speaker for the Dead Xenocide Children of the Mind Ender's Shadow Shadow of the Hegemon Shadow Puppets First Meetings (the one with 4 stories) The Memory of Earth The Call of Earth
I want to finish the Homecoming series and then I'll see which one is next.
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I don't have 350 copies of it. I have one copy of the limited edition, of which only 350 were printed.
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Wow. I'm curious if any of you with large collections of OSC "do" any other authors. I only own 26-27 of OSC's books (all hardback I don't buy paperback) but I also collect 4 other authors - one who writes MORE than OSC and one who is almost as active. I also buy books that aren't of my top 5 authors. I read compulsively.
It is a struggle financially for me to keep up - and thank heaven for eBay. I can't resist buying some books as soon as they hit the bookstore. November will be Crystal City and King's new Gunslinger novel. Those are "musts" the day they hit the bookstore.
I'm just curious if anyone else - especially CalvinMaker - are able to collect more than OSC with that kind of volume. If you do then I am truely amazed and do you have to live in your car to afford them!
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I think I'll tack this on here. Does anyone know of a way I can get the short story West by itself. It was one of the most amazing stories I've ever read, but I wasn't that impressed with the rest of Folk of the Fringe and would like to be able to lend West out to people on it's own.
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I collect/obsess over William Gibson too, and Sandra Cisneros (if anybody knows who she is). I can't wait until Chip Kidd writes another, so I can start a real collection. I've been tossing around the idea of tracking down all of his cover art, but that would be insane (he's the guy behind most of Michael Chrichton's cover art ie Jurrasic Park with the solid red lettering and the shadow of the raptor, I'm sure you can all picture it) Anyways, I'm starting to track down the first editions of all the Chuck Palanhuik books too. OSC is about the only sci fi that I ever read, except the Harry Potter books. And I'm not even going to TRY to collect the first edition hardbacks of those. Maybe in a couple of years when I start makeing real money Posts: 53 | Registered: Jul 2002
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I also have read and had most of Michael Crichton's fiction i read and had copies of Andromeda Strain, sphere, Great Train Robbery, Jurassic Park, Timeline, Disclosure, Congo, Terminal Man, Eaters of the Dead, and Rising Sun. I had a copy of Lost world but hadn't read it and just recently picked up his newest novel Prey(which i plan on reading after Worthing Saga or Lovelock). It's amazing how one author can have all of his fictional works into movies right now Timeline is coming out this fall. It's a shame though that none of the movies actually compare to the books. Well i went back to my rambling again sorry.
EG SFTD Xenocide COTM Ender's Shadow Shadow of the Hegemon Shadow Puppets First Meetings The Seventh Son *The Red Prophet
*=ordering through that ignoramus online community, Amazon, who likes to ship "within 24 hours" orders after 5 days of anxiously waiting at the door for the package to come (that was also a joke, about waiting at the door night and day and all, although it's not too far from the truth... )
(Praise him, the ALMIGHTY ORSON for whom thousands and thousands and billions of fans flock to bookstore after bookstore in hopes of buying -excuse me- being blessed with the opportunity to hold in his/her hand another Book of Orson. That I'm not joking about.
Keep in mind that I was only introduced to OSC ( Almighty Orson ) OK, that's really enough of that, someone's going to start laughing at me, although I have no problem with calling him that name...anywho, I only heard of OSC one month ago when I started to read EG, and in that month I've read all of those books (minus 7th Son and Red Prophet, which I'm getting.) *edited-I finished Seventh Son, so no need to say that I'm in the process of reading it!!
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Well CalvinMaker proved it there, i'm just a 16 year old wannabe OSC fanatic. But that inspiried me to read all the more. Posts: 9 | Registered: Jul 2003
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Lovelock Folk of the Fringe Lost Boys All of the Enderverse Books
Once I get a better job and have some more money to spend on books I'm looking to start some of the other series he's done.
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I've only read Seventh Son, Red Prophet, Prentice Alvin, and I'm working on Journeyman. I had to stop in the middle of Journeyman for school books, it drove me nuts! I saw in the foward about people getting online and role playing characters, so here I am! I can't wait to finish Journeyman and Hearfire, I see OSC has started on Crystal City! (I was lucky enough to get to go to one of his signings, he lives right near me. Yay!)
Love, Peace, and Chicken Grease!
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That's pretty good for a summer!! wieczorek, I love how you refer to OSC as Almighty Orson in bold. It makes me smile.
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Well, if I can make one person smile throughout the course of my day, I guess I've done some good... Yes, I tend to like to do nothing but sit around my house and read during the summer.
"Remember, the enemy's gate is down"
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It's much easier to list series as a whole than individually, that way I can type less and you all know the individual titles anyway.
My List:
Ender Series Shadow Series Homecoming Series Alvin Series
First Meetings Lovelock Wyrms Saints
Worthy to be one of us (only Calvin mentioned this one) from the book "Turning Hearts: Short stories on family life," which was edited by OSC and David Dollahite (btw-I've read that whole book as well)
And I think that's it for the next few weeks until I read another one. Any suggestions?
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Ksig, Red Prophet comes after Seventh Son, then? The sequel? I'm hoping that's so, because seeing as it's the only unread OSC book I have in my possession right now, I might start to read it, even if it's not !! Thanks
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The Ender Series The Shadow Series (Just finished Shadow Puppets a couple days ago.) The Alvin Maker Series The Homecoming Series and The Worthing Chronicles
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The obligitory 'I have read...' line, and now the list.
Ender's Game Speaker for the Dead Xenocide Children of the Mind
Ender's Shadow Shadow of the Hegemon Shadow Puppets
The Memory of Earth The Call of Earth The Ships of Earth Earthfall Earthborn
Seventh Son Red Prophet Prentice Alvin Alvin Journeyman Heartfire
Sarah Rebekah
Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus The Worthing Saga Treasure Box Lost Boys Enchantment Hart's Hope Folk of the Fringe Wyrms Songmaster First Meetings in the Enderverse Lovelock
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I've been working on OSC books since law school, about 1986. It's probably easier to list what I haven't read than what I have:
I have NOT Read: Sarah (yet) Rebekah (yet) Hatrack River First Meetings Some of the middle books in the Homecoming series (I read the first 2 and the last one) Lost Boys (not enthusiastic about the horror genre, though I did read Treasure Box) Ainge Saintspeak Capitol I'm missing some of the short stories and most of the poetry, plays, non-fiction, etc.
That means I HAVE read some of OSC's more obscure books, and thus qualify myself as a true OSC fan. For example:
The Folk of the Fringe Maps in a Mirror Hart's Hope (echo the mixed reviews) Saints The Worthing Saga/Hot Sleep Treason The Abyss
So, is there a place around here where people discuss their favorite OSC books and why? I haven't searched past the first 2 pages here. But any friend of Speaker For the Dead and Pastwatch is a friend of mine. Prentice Alvin is probably my favorite so far of the Alvin Maker series. Enchantment was good, but I have a soft spot in my heart for novelized fairy tales (I also live for Robin McKinley books - she wrote a very good different take on the Sleeping Beauty legend a couple of years ago called Spindle's End, which I'd recommend to any Enchantment fans).
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Mockingbird, The horror in Lost Boys is merely a backdrop for a story about family and love. I would HIGHLY recommend this book. This is the first and only novel that brought me to tears.
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I was just going to say "ditto" until I came to Calvin's list. You win! I have a collection of 22 of OSC's books, both paperback and hardback. There are many other books that I borrowed from the library and reluctantly returned. One more to Calvin. By the way, I also collect many other authors. I have all of Rbt. Jordan, Mary Stewart, Jean Auel, Terry Brooks, Rowling, and many others.
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Hey hansenj, I'm actually reading the Homecoming series, so I think it's about time you got on the stick and did the same. (Don't we usually do the same stuff together cause we're twins? Don't ruin my delusion!!)
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well, im gonna post my list even if it dosent really compare:
eg sftd xenocide children of the mind ender's shadow shadow of the hedgemon shadom puppets first meetings (the newest one) the memory of earth (but i can't find it! its driving me crazy! i lost it!) the call of earth the ships of earth earthfall earthborn sarah rebekah seventh son red prophet prentice alvin alvin journeyman heartfire crystal city lovelock songmaster hart's hope (ditto to the mixed reviews. it was wierd. kind of a depressing end) the worthing saga enchantment all five books of maps in a mirror (i got the paperback complete edition)
oh and i get triple bonus points for this: i'm only 14 and my dad buys my OSC books for me! HAHA! no pocket strain on me! i am so using this to my advantage as much as humanly posible! and p.s. i only started reading OSC about a year ago (AKA i was 13) i read the entire homecoming series in about two days! and i was reading the thirid artemis fowl book at the same time! i read fast... anyway, gotta get back to reading pastwatch!! Posts: 6 | Registered: Mar 2004
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Wow! it's really amazing how many of OSC's books you guys have read- and I thought I was a fan!
I've read: Ender's Game Speaker for the Dead Xenocide Children of the Mind Ender's Shadow Shadow of the Hegemon Seventh Son The Red Prophet Enchantment Treasure Box
I don't like to stick to one author, however good he may be, mostly because there are so many good books out there I feel like I'm missing out on a heck of a lot if I restrict myself to one person's writings, and I hate that feeling! Posts: 13 | Registered: Apr 2004
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Let's see: Ender's Game Speaker Xenocide Children of the Mind Ender's Shadow Shadow of the Hegemon Shadow Puppets Enchantment Alvin Maker series Pastwatch Sarah Rebekah The Worthing Saga Folk of the Fringe Wyrms Maps in a Mirror (collection of short stories) Treasure Box Homecoming Saga
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Ender's Game Speaker for the Dead Xenocide Children of the Mind Ender's Shadow Shadow of the Hegemon Shadow Puppets First Meetings The Memory of Earth The Call of Earth the Ships of Earth Earthfall Earthborn Seventh Son Red Prophet Prentice Alvin Alvin Journeyman Heartfire Crystal City Treasure Box Enchantment
I've read all but Ender's Game within the last 6 months and I'm reading the Worthing Saga right now.
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I've read all the Ender and Bean books, all the Alvin Maker books, all the Memory of Earth books, Songmaster, The Lost Boys, and Treasure Box. Long live OSC!
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I don't want to waste brain cells trying to figure out which OSC books I haven't read, so I'll just pick them off as I find them. I was happy to come across this one.
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I read Wyrms - this I read first, I remembered it well, then it took some time to find book again, and recognize author. Treason - read recently. Enders Saga - read some time ago, little bit boring in my opinion.
Enchantment - very good book, good Fantasy level.
Also read reviews and world opinions regularly - generally consider OSC very reasonable person.
In first three books I noticed VERY HIGH level of violence, performed by children in two of these books. It is not so usual in other books I read. I would be interested how Orson Card can explain his position on violence in books here. Generally I am not too sensitive to violence (or sex) in movies or stories, I liked Kick-Ass movie - but there violence was stylized, shown little bit as non serous, not real. Not so in these stories. So violence of these stories shocked me somewhat. Many critics sharply criticized this movie.
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