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Valantin, I have a quick question. I heard somewhere that the Chinese government monitors all internet activity. Is that true?
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Communist in a economic sense of what people attribute to it is:
Heavy handed centralized planning
Inefficient economics
government monopoly on everything
The PRC while owning some industries is not hovever communist in the definition of centralized planning on the Soviet Model. They are a market oriented economy where all citizens have the right to buy and sell property. They recieve much investment from oversea's.
Money being controlled by the government? As in terms of the banks being controlled? I think that is a plus considering that banking establishments may not have the government's/nation's true interests at heart. I forget the term, Kensian Economics or something.
So it went up by a 1000 since you last checked thats a plus aint it? And if it keeps going up at the rate of 1000 per year, then it should reach NA norms in 35 years. Not bad.
An authoritan style of government does not equate Communist in theory or in practice, the economics are highly socialist with characteristics adapted first by Mao and then by Deng Xiaopeng (technically not BY himself per se, it was mostly bottom up reforms compared to Russia's top-down).
In fact if I remember correctly the PRC government stripped the PLA of many of its monopolies to prevent corruption and put them in the market for public ownership. But compensated the PLA somewhat so not to many were hurt by it.
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Right. So, you are saying that China is not communist? If you are, then you are dumb. And as for the average income. I said it was 5,600, not 5,200. The national average went up 600, not $1,000. And yes, $400 doed make a huge difference.
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I am saying they are only Communist in name, the average yearly earnings of some if I am correct 700,000 people in agriculture is definately going to skew the average income by quit a bit. Though recent measures such as the abolishment of the agricultural tax should help alliviate the plight of farmers.
Are you saying that your basing wether or not a Country is Communist on how much the average earnings are? Then alot of african nations are also by that definition communist.
Communist in the economic form as we know it otherwise interpreted as Soviet Model of Centralized Planning quite frankly China is not.
quote:The shift from a command economy to a market economy has proven to be difficult; in particular, there were no theoretical guides for doing so before the 1990s. One transition from a command economy to a market economy that is widely considered to be successful is that of the People's Republic of China, in which there was a period of some years lasting roughly until the early 1990s during which both the command economy and the market economy coexisted, so that nobody would be much worse off under a mixed economy than a command economy, while some people would be much better off. Gradually, the parts of the economy under the command economy decreased until the mid-1990s when resource allocation was almost completely determined by market mechanisms.
By contrast, the Soviet Union's transition was much more problematic and its successor republics faced a sharp decline in GDP during the early 1990s. While the situation has since improved, these countries have yet to generate the high rate of sustained economic growth that China has.
quote:Originally posted by Dr Strangelove: Valantin, I have a quick question. I heard somewhere that the Chinese government monitors all internet activity. Is that true?
I don't think so. Maybe they know we are discussing something.But i don't think they joined us
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