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valantin
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Hello,OSC and every one here.I'm a new member from China.I'm happy to enter this forum.OSC,I like your books very much and I found that many things in your book are reletive to China.Like our religion,culture and so on.
I like your writting style.And want to communicate with you.But I just know a little English.Please accept me and my points.
Thank you. [Group Hug]

[ February 21, 2006, 10:33 AM: Message edited by: valantin ]

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Welcome to Hatrack Valantin.

Ni hao, ni shunti hao ma?

As you can see I'm slowly trying to learn Mandarin, maybe you can help me? my msn is sid_meier@hotmail.com. [Smile]

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I'm so glad to meet you here.I'd like to do anything to help you to leatn Mandarin.Could you tell me where are you from?Could you help me with English too?
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Welcome to hatrack.
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Thanks.^-^ [Smile]
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mei wen ti valantin

you ren he ying wen de wen ti ni xiang dong ni dang ran ke yi wen women [Smile]

Alot of people complain about Xenocide when I talk to them about OSC's books and I just have to disagree with them. For me having such...CHINESE Chinese characters was very refreshing. I always wondered how Mr. Card knew so much about how Chinese people think/act. I am American but I grew up in China, I love going there whenever I can. Again welcome to the hatrack community valantin.

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quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
Welcome to Hatrack Valantin.

Ni hao, ni shunti hao ma?

As you can see I'm slowly trying to learn Mandarin, maybe you can help me? my msn is sid_meier@hotmail.com. [Smile]

Me too! I'll help!
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hello, Valantin!
我问你好。我也要帮助你! [Smile]

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I'm from Canada, Quebec and of course I'll help you with your english, currently I'm helping 2 Chinese girls, one bulgarian and 2 Czech's learn English all over ICQ/MSN [Smile] But its always great to have more.

Currently I'm on a good terms with 4 Chinese people, plus many other who I know of www.sinodefenceforum.com

I'll accept you to my msn (assuming you added me) as soon s I get home [Big Grin] .

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Welcome, Valantin!
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Welcomes all around. And, by the way, its okay Valantin. I'm American and I don't speak English very well either.
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Welcome to Hatrack! [Big Grin] Good luck with your learning English! [Smile]

I love Chinese & Japanese culture (and Korean, to a lesser extent). Nice to know that some people from those countries are here!

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Hello, valantin! And if something you read here doesn't make sense to you, don't assume it's because of your English -- sometimes we just don't make a lot of sense! [Wink]
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Thanks for your kindness.I'm so happy to have so many friends here.And I'd like to introduce Chinese culture to you.And i hope to learn more American customs from you.Be friends always!
Thanks again! [Smile] [Party]

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China? Neat.

About the American Customs thing; you may not want them so much. If you want to eat a lot and waste resorces, WELCOME TO AMERICAN CULTURE! [Smile]

I've had a few discussions about China on these boards. So... What's China like?

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Well.
In my points,our country is too big,too many people,too competitive.As a student,we have too much homework,we must study harder and harder to get good grades.We have little rest,we are too tired.But i like our culture,it's a magic!Sometiemes i can't believe that we have such a long history!
Now,Chinese young people are being more and more fashion.Most of us can accept foreign culture.And like to communicate with foreigners.
we joined WTO,we holded inter national sports games.More and more people start to know us.I'm proud of my country! [Razz] [Big Grin]

[ February 22, 2006, 09:54 AM: Message edited by: valantin ]

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I'm just saying that it's proud, not pride. It would be I am proud or "I have pride in my countries exploits..."

But aside from this little quibbles you do possess an excellent grasp of the english language. [Smile]

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THX Blayne. [Smile]
Well,it's not early here,and i must go to bed.
See you tommorrow [Sleep]

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are you steven two seven eight @ hotmail.com? I have another chinese person who just added me, I'm wondering if hes from SDF or from you. And good night cya this afternoon.
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I'm in agreement with Blayne - you seem to be doing very well with English! [Smile] I'm learning Japanese (self-taught), and I find it quite difficult. ^^;;

When talking to some people from my school over the internet, it seems as though you know English much better than they do! [ROFL]

[ February 22, 2006, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: xxsockeh ]

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oh
i think not
my MSN has some troubles that i can't use.
i try to fix it.But it needs time.

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xxsockeh
i think that Japanese is quite difficult
our school taught us a little,but i think i can't learn it well.
so ,good luck

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For me, Japanese is hard because of how sentences are usually arranged. They are completely backwards from how we arrange sentences.
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Welcome, valantin! [Wave]

What books by Card have you read?
Is western science fiction hard to get in China?

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At least we know they have OSC's books there (see the main page [Smile] )

(BTW, I love Japanese words derived from English ones: spoonu, fooku, naifu... [Big Grin] )

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naifu???

yes which OSC books are availiable in Zhongguo?

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quote:
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xxsockeh
i think that Japanese is quite difficult
our school taught us a little,but i think i can't learn it well.
so ,good luck

Lol, thanks. [Smile]
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OH~
<<Ender's Game>>,<<Speaker for the dead>>,<<Xenocide>>and <<Ender's shadow>>are availiable in China.
I think that westurn SF is quite popular here.
More and more people buy the books like these.

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Morbo,i think not.But SF in China is not as popular as it in westurn countries.
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valantin, that's too bad. Maybe SF will gain popularity in the future in China.

oolung, you left out the funniest: bushu-suru, "to do a Bush", the act of vomiting all over someone. Derived from the incident when President Bush Sr. barfed in the lap of the Emperor of Japan in 1992, during a state dinner.

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Well
i hope so.And i know that OSC's one book will be published in China~

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But i don't know which book. I just heard it.
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quote:
Originally posted by valantin:
Well.
In my points,our country is too big,too many people,too competitive.As a student,we have too much homework,we must study harder and harder to get good grades.We have little rest,we are too tired.But i like our culture,it's a magic!Sometiemes i can't believe that we have such a long history!
Now,Chinese young people are being more and more fashion.Most of us can accept foreign culture.And like to communicate with foreigners.
we joined WTO,we holded inter national sports games.More and more people start to know us.I'm proud of my country! [Razz] [Big Grin]

I find it interesting too, as many have noted, that China has existed as an advanced civilization, and with nearly continuous solidarity for countless centuries. Yet today many Americans and Europeans fear the rise of chinese industrialism and commercialism, partly because some of us see China as backward. We fear perhaps, that if China is the future power, they will somehow not get it right, and Our history will be lost.

Nevertheless you want to communicate with us in our language, and that is something few of us would be willing or able to do if the roles were reversed. So I wonder at the paranoia some feel about change.

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Orincoro
It's too hard for me to understand it.I don't know what does this mean"So I wonder at the paranoia some feel about change"

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Valantin, I have a question for you. Do you see anyone still wearing traditional clothing?
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"So I wonder at the paranoia some feel about change"

Paranoia means fear that you think everyone is out to hurt you. It doesn't make sense, it's illogical. At it's worst, it's mental illness, paranoid schizoprenia.

In this sentence, I guess Orinoco means he doesn't understand the illogical, unreasonable fear that some people have about change.

However, Orinoco, it's not unreasonable to be upset or afraid of future change if you feel your culture or nation is no longer going to dominate the world the way it once did.

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Also Valantin www.goteamspeak.com, if you have a microphone we can talk to each other, its like Skype.

Oh I also use icq, my number is 205-365-489.

I look forward to meeting you [Smile]

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Eh, if the US doesn't dominate the world, it will just be that both the US, and China are superpowers. The WORST that could happen, would be we get in the spot of Great Britain, and are only a world power, instead of a superpower. Who knows, China may be a Superpower by 2020.
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Depends, I like the Firefly future where the cultures merge.

Aside from that, there's no doubt that the US will to a certain extent lose its position but HOW and to what extent is another story and will very much depend on the top level leadership decisions in the next 15 years.

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As Hyperpower, the US will probably lose its posistion, but no doubt, it will remain a superpower. China on the other hand, may have a hard time, especially if what some predict, comes true. Many say that the manufacturing industry will go the way farming, and take a backseat in the economy. I certaintly hope (no offense to Valatin, or anyone for that matter,) that China does NOT become a superpower in any way.

I do not fear this, and it is not as if I don't like China, it's just that China is a communist nation, and as the world has shown several times over, Communism doesn't work. If China becomes a Superpower whilst being communist, then it will assuredly have very troubling times or fall, when it eventually reverts to capitolism.

As to what would cause China to become a superpower, or the US not to be, the only thing I can think of, is WW III.

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quote:
Originally posted by xxsockeh:
Valantin, I have a question for you. Do you see anyone still wearing traditional clothing?

Now nobody wears traditional long clothing,but someones wear traditional clothing with fashion elements.
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quote:
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As Hyperpower, the US will probably lose its posistion, but no doubt, it will remain a superpower. China on the other hand, may have a hard time, especially if what some predict, comes true. Many say that the manufacturing industry will go the way farming, and take a backseat in the economy. I certaintly hope (no offense to Valatin, or anyone for that matter,) that China does NOT become a superpower in any way.

I do not fear this, and it is not as if I don't like China, it's just that China is a communist nation, and as the world has shown several times over, Communism doesn't work. If China becomes a Superpower whilst being communist, then it will assuredly have very troubling times or fall, when it eventually reverts to capitolism.

As to what would cause China to become a superpower, or the US not to be, the only thing I can think of, is WW III.

I agree with you.Although i'm a chinese, I dont like many things here,and i dont think communist party is a good one(despite a few of them not too bad???)
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quote:
Originally posted by Morbo:
"So I wonder at the paranoia some feel about change"

Paranoia means fear that you think everyone is out to hurt you. It doesn't make sense, it's illogical. At it's worst, it's mental illness, paranoid schizoprenia.

In this sentence, I guess Orinoco means he doesn't understand the illogical, unreasonable fear that some people have about change.

However, Orinoco, it's not unreasonable to be upset or afraid of future change if you feel your culture or nation is no longer going to dominate the world the way it once did.

Thank you so much for explaining this to me.Now i get it,thx again!!! [Kiss]
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Yes, I do have to have to agree with you Valatin. There are always exceptions in every circumstance.

Mao Zedong...

Probably the worst leader in history. I mean sure, he brought China to power, but look what he did. Killed 48 Million people in the process. Well hopefully, China will become a capitolist nation before they become a superpower. If that happens, they may one day reach the power the US has today. They will put much more into space exploration, then the US have.

We have put a lot in though...

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Now nobody wears traditional long clothing,but someones wear traditional clothing with fashion elements.

Well, that's cool that they still wear some. But that's too bad...the clothing is one of my favourite parts of Chinese & Japanese culture.

I have 1 Chinese shirt and 1 Chinese dress. =D They're really cool. [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Now nobody wears traditional long clothing,but someones wear traditional clothing with fashion elements.

Well, that's cool that they still wear some. But that's too bad...the clothing is one of my favourite parts of Chinese & Japanese culture.

I have 1 Chinese shirt and 1 Chinese dress. =D They're really cool. [Big Grin]

Can you show the pics of your Chinese clothing to me? [Big Grin]
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quote:
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Yes, I do have to have to agree with you Valatin. There are always exceptions in every circumstance.

Mao Zedong...

Probably the worst leader in history. I mean sure, he brought China to power, but look what he did. Killed 48 Million people in the process. Well hopefully, China will become a capitolist nation before they become a superpower. If that happens, they may one day reach the power the US has today. They will put much more into space exploration, then the US have.

We have put a lot in though...

It shows that you have a great interest in politics.I think you'll be a big person in the future. [Evil]
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Just so you know the PRC's economy is much healthier then the USSR's ever was at its height. And for all things considered Communist only in name.
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Can you show the pics of your Chinese clothing to me?

Sure! But I'm not at home right now. I get back on Sunday night, so I'll take the pictures then. [Big Grin]

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Actually Blayne, China is VERY communist right now. The government are the ones who really hold all of the money. The average person in the U.S. earns about $40,000 a year. That's quite a bit; third highest in the world. In the PRC however, the average person earns $5,600 a year. Just so you know, that's over $10,000 below the poverty line. In the U.S. that is.

But then, even right now China is becoming capitolist. We just have to hope this swich is complete before they become a superpower.

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