quote: GreNME is the forum for people who really, really dislike Cedrios and want to talk about how Hatrack isn't what it used to be.
I think there might be a few threads about this, but if you actually looked at each thread topic, how many of them are "gossip" topics about any other forum? There are some, but they don't rule the forum.
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Hey, I know it's bad taste to bring this up, but I'm dying to know.
I wrote this long post in fugu's thread about Kat, and mentioned that as long as the thread was deleted I didn't care of my post went with it.
Well, I lied. I want to know if fugu deleted it, himself, or if it got deleted by the Mods.
It just took a bloody long time to write, and I want to know if it ascended into Hatrack heaven forever without a trace of it's existence, or if it actually helped the situation.
(Not that this inquiry would be helping the situation, or anything.)
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I didn't see it before that thread was removed so I can personally testify that it was lost on me...
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Ralphie, when I read it, I was faintly terrified at being so easily seen through, cried all over a wonderful friend who also read it, and was impressed beyond words with your wisdom and succintness.
I was wondering by whom it was deleted as well, but didn't want to ask. I really, really, really don't want a post-mortem discussion of the quite mortemed thread. But I was wondering who made it go away.
Added: I don't know what happened to or by anyone else because of it. I saved a copy of it. The thread was alive until 8:30 or so this morning. It didn't impress everyone. At least one person was very defensive. But I don't know anything about the decision to make it dissapear.
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Oh, good Kat. I'm glad it helped at least that much. I was worried I may have not quite hit the nail on the head, and I'm relieved I was at least accurate.
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Man, I need to rile some of you up, so you all can terrify me. It's been a long time since I had a good clean fright, or even a somewhat musty mildewed scare.
Heck, I'd take a run-through-the-mud-5-times, sprayed-by-a-skunk creeping horror at this point.
-Bok, not nearly cerebellummed enough by fellow Jatraqueros
EDIT: I always get annoyed when I know I've missed a thread here.
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Xav, I sure don't mind, but I don't want to really stretch everything out. It's Toni's post, though. If you want it and she wants to give it to you, I'll send e-mail to various points in cyberspace. It's on the home computer, though. I couldn't until later tonight.
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The Ghost Society? Timothy's Gotham Swing? Tight Glutes Soon? The Geek Simulation?
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*sigh* Homestarruner. To stay culturally literate, I may soon need to actually read those e-mails. I haven't so far because I don't have sound at work, and at home, I always seem to be distracted.
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I did not delete it, I was at a volunteerism conference all day. I had contemplated deleting it, though not for the reasons many will think, but if I had done so I would have posted something, and saved a copy of everything posted.
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Interesting. Now I'm curiouser... not that it does a lot of good. I'm just happy to be here, in Hatrack, behaving civilly.
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I found an easter egg. After the green paper scrolls down, click on the first "hot girl" and you'll get a funny surprise. That reminds me oddly of a painting I sent my one missionary boyfriend.
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posted April 29, 2004 10:26 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't know what damn use this is, since I've mainly just been lurking for months now, but this calls for a DB strike. Any place that embraces Cedrios over John is a place I need to stay the hell away from. So, for now, I'll be seeing you guys.
Adios.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I'm sorry to see anyone else leave over this, but I think that is a gross overstatement.
I can't find one post here that says anything good about Cedrios, and something bad about John other than what he and his supporters admit to.
If you constantly violate the User Agreement, and continue to post item that the mods warn you about (and remove), what do you expect happen. Does John have the right to act in ways that violate the principles of this site?
I prefer John to Ced, hands down, but if this is a fair representation of what happened, then what is all the fuss about? Break the rules, pay the price. Same rules for everyone.....sounds fair to me.
I agree, Geoff. And really, while I do sometimes wish the rules would be applied more evenly-and I say that fully aware that if they were I have stood a good chance of being banned or at least disciplined in some form at times in the past-I certainly understand why they aren't.
I mean, they don't get paid for one thing. More than that, they actually pay themselves-in time and money and effort-to keep the forum up and running. So I suppose to have someone like me complaining about enforcement consistency must be irritating to say the least, which is why I say I 'wish' they were applied more evenly (sometimes), but I don't at all expect it, and that wish doesn't in any way lessen the gratitude I feel for the forum and its upkeep.
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You also have to realize that the outcome of a dispute between the moderators and a forum member are USUALLY the result of private dealings between the two parties over a long period of time. If someone commits a violation and is sincerely apologetic, they're not getting banned unless the violation was truly unspeakable. If someone commits a violation and is rude and unyielding about it (not that John is ever rude or unyielding ), then their banning is far more likely.
Also, if someone has already been annoying the moderators by generally acting like a jerk over a long period of time, they are much less likely to get mercy for a violation.
I know nothing about John's case, so I'm not accusing him of anything. I am mostly just addressing any general perception that the administration of bannings is arbitrary or unfair. The moderators deliberately DO NOT DISCUSS the reasoning behind their decisions, considering it to be a privacy issue. So if someone gets banned and you hear rumors that it was unfair and unwarranted, realize that you are not getting the full story, and never will, specifically because the moderators are so conscientious about protecting the bannee's privacy. So try to give them the benefit of the doubt.
If anything, the moderators sometimes feel that they are too lax, given the treatment they often receive from self-righteous violators.
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For my part, I can't figure out why I haven't been banned yet.
I've insulted Mormonism, scoffed at modern and traditional parenting, bashed Republicans, denigrated women, taken a blood oath to destroy civilization as we know it...
And I like Cold Mountain.
[ May 01, 2004, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: Scott R ]
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I'm not speaking about rumors or innuendo, Geoff. I am just saying that-in my opinion-there are other people who have behaved worse and done more damage, but have not been banned. That is, ultimately, the point I'm trying to make.
I know the moderators are volunteers (moreso, since they pay for this themselves), and I know that one of them is your parent and the other is a family friend, and I know that you've got a beef with John (and I probably would've known that even if I didn't frequent Hatrack ), and I understand why the moderators do not comment.
But my irritation that an offense against Cedrios, of all people, was the 'straw that broke the camel's back' in this case still remains. Because, in my blunt opinion, Kevin deserved it.
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quote:And I like Cold Mountian ________________________
Taht last one would be enough for me....
Of course. You can't spell the word 'that.' I can't expect you, illiterate as you are, to understand the true beauty and high literary merit of such a work as Cold Mountain.
Go back to reading your. . . Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, or what have you, then.
Go on now, there's a dear. Shoo.
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If this were the type of board where violations of the TOS against those who "deserved it" were tolerated, I wouldn't stay long. Not that that's a big loss, but arbitrariness bugs me.
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