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Invariably they are people who know each other in real life:
Members of the same family
Co-workers
School buddies
Neighbors
People who have attended one of the various -CONs, Clumps, or Shindas
Their most obnoxious behaviors:
Spinning fluff in the middle of a serious thread.
Taking a thread discussion to private chat or e-mail.
What can be done about it?
Nothing; it’s a fact of life here at Hatrack. Attend a CON if you dare, but be prepared to have your butt kicked by a chick wearing army boots or thigh-high sexy boots.
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Are you saying that you are against having your butt kicked by a chick wearing army boots or thigh-high sexy boots?
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BtL, actually raventh1 was reading an incorrect translation. As anyone who has read the original aramaic would clearly know, the verse quoted by raventh1 is actually "Heaven forbid people to Bond-O."
And I can't say that I disagree with that sentiment. Bond-O should not be mixed with people, it _is_ an abomination.
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Yah... I don't know anyone here on the "outside".... So keep your thoughts where I can see them! Posts: 4953 | Registered: Jan 2004
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if you don't take the bait, the trolls can't bite you, kids.
skillery i can't decide on. does he know what a troll he is? are his posts intentionally as loaded as they read? he said in his other thread that he would sit back and watch. i think this would do him a lot of good if he isn't a troll.
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There's a clique? Where's a clique? Can I be in a clique? Am I already part of a clique? If not, I'm gonna start my own clique. It's gonna be for ummm....thinking....people who think "Spirit" is a movie worth crying through, like lightening bugs, think the only topping worth having on a pizza is cheese, and who have read the book "Bug City." Crap. I'm a clique of one.
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Uh, I thought you had to have a point, or at least take a more solid stand on something to be taken as "serious, silly or tongue-in-cheek". As it is now, he seems to be making a somewhat vague statement and a very roundabout judgement of this behavior. Maybe I'm missing something, because he appears to have offended a lot of people, but, to me, it doesn't seem to warrant such a reaction.
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Hey, I'll join your clique, Space Opera. But I think you should know that I like my pizza Hawaiian or BBQ chicken. Mmmmmmm. *Will make pizza tonight*
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quote:Uh, I thought you had to have a point, or at least take a more solid stand on something to be taken as "serious, silly or tongue-in-cheek". As it is now, he seems to be making a somewhat vague statement and a very roundabout judgement of this behavior. Maybe I'm missing something, because he appears to have offended a lot of people, but, to me, it doesn't seem to warrant such a reaction.
That's because one of the posts in which he offended some people was deleted, and the other one is posted elsewhere.
I don't know, though. I don't think he is deliberately trying to offend people. I think that he just barrels right into things without thinking through exactly how people are going to react to what he is saying.
[ June 09, 2004, 04:17 PM: Message edited by: Ela ]
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I used to think that, but now I'm not so sure. This is the second shot at me he's taken this week. I'm not offended by either, but I am a little bothered that he spends so much time on me.
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quote:seem to have a sense of humor about yourself.
Thanks Ela.
Somebody yesterday in my apology thread wanted to get peevish about the supposed existence of cliques here.
I got to thinking about it last night.
Yeah, there are close-knit circles of people here. Call them cliques if you will. So what?
And as someone else implied, the initiation process into some of these groups might be considered fun. Masochistic maybe.
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fine, then i'll work from the assumption that you're just an idiot. hey, idiot, leave me alone. i'm not interested in being friends. i'm not interested in being enemies. just leave me alone.
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I angered celia at Sakeriver in a discussion about friends, and who can be your friend. And I came off as a sexist pig, trying to communicate that as a married man, I have to be careful in my friendships with women.
Celia joked (I think she was joking) that she would kick my butt if I showed up a KamaCON. I think Kama said as much as well.
Anyway, celia started posting pictures of some of the various hobbies and activities she does, like shooting and sailing, and I recognized that she is really cool. Too bad I pissed her off.
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Spinning fluff in the middle of a serious thread. Taking a thread discussion to private chat or e-mail.
Spinning fluff in the middle of a serious thread can be annoying, at times, but I personally find it a minor irritation. Sometimes it serves to lighten a too serious mood. I don't really think it's the results of any "cliques" though, at least not that I have observed.
Taking a thread discussion to private chat or email is usually done either to avoid generally offending everyone (or a particular person), or because the person doesn't want to discuss it in a public forum. I am sorry it makes you feel left out. A lot of us started chatting or emailing only because we had something further to say that we didn't really want to post in public. It's not generally done to be exclusionary. Sorry if it feels that way to you.
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I didn't say those behaviors made me feel any particular way. My point was that their behavior doesn't get any worse than that, which is to say, benign.
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I don't know that we really need to go back to that particular conversation, AJ. By the way, since you went to sakeriver already, why not register? Posts: 4534 | Registered: Jan 2003
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I was hoping for a nice, organized listing of actual Hatrack cliques... I'd kind of like to see exactly where I stand...
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I didn't say those behaviors made me feel any particular way. My point was that their behavior doesn't get any worse than that, which is to say, benign.
Okay. Your point is taken. Posts: 5771 | Registered: Nov 2000
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What Ela said: I don't think these the behaviors of cliques. Whether or not there are cliques, what you're pointing at ain't them.
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It has to do with fear of friendship with the opposite gender due to the fact that you are married. Why are you cutting yourself off from friendship with 50% of the population because a few of them are unpredictable?
My mother does not have a single male person she considers to be her friend other than my father. Even if they have been friends with a couple for over 20 years, she is friends with the wife and my father is friends with the husband, regardless of who has what interests.
I have a half dozen guy friends, who I've been friends with for years. Many of them have gotten married. I was invited to several weddings even though I had never met the bride. While I don't talk to them as frequently mostly because of distance, it would be awful for me to stop being friends with them simply because they were married.
The same goes for the other way around. Steve has several female friends that I was never friends with. Does this bother me? not in the least. But having friends of the other gender to me goes part and parcel with having independent hobbies that take you away from each other.
I think limiting yourself to merely half of the world's possible population for friendship is a horribly unhealthy way to live. But maybe avoidance is the way you cope with everything in your life. If you avoid something, you can never actually have a problem because you are never going to be in pain. But you miss out on so much joy too. AJ
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I'm just wierd. I went too far in overstating my position in that thread. I do have female friends. An extra measure of care is required in those friendships, and there are personal rules that I apply to keep the friendship within the bounds of propriety. That's all.
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I have been thinking about something lately, they say you are a "real hatracker" if you have met another one in real life. So am I real? I know quite a few, but knew them before I became a hatrakcer.
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That counts. You're real if and only if at least two other Hatrackers, having met you in person, can vouch for your existance.
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I brought up the cliques, and for clarification I should mention that I'm pooka in my "I don't want to post my 4th Landmark while suffering PMS" digs.
I've just been cut down by a lot of folks here lately. A few it was a surprise, several not. But this is probably also due to PMS. I figure PMS was important in prehistoric times so that women who are about to be, well, unclean, feel like getting away from the group for a while.
Space Opera, apart from "Bug City" we are really close.
Skill, I also try to be supportive of you because I felt partly responsible for the first time you fled from Hatrack (the homeschool thread, remember? Ah, memories).
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Saxon, I have sent things to two Hatrackers, and have promised to send things to three more. Does that make me real? Oh, and I still owe Olivia a critique from about a year ago.
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