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what about The Wizard of OZ ? My 7 year old daughter loves it... or even The King of Dreams ?(<--- done by the same people that did Prince of Egypt )
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Zeugma, an astute observation. I remember back when I was still a pretty big Disney fan when Porter complained that Disney usually focused on dysfuncional families. I tried to come to Disney's defense. It took me a while to realize that, with a few exceptions, he was right.
I grew up dreaming of being a Disney artist. I loved animation, and they were "the best". I remember my first time going to a Disney store. I realized that I did not worship Disney as I thought I did, since they seemed to require their employees to be avid worshipers. I could see the difference. Over time I slowly overcame the brainwashing children all over the world go through--that your childhood is not complete if you have not been to Disney World. After seeing how full of itself Disney is, I have not been able to respect them since.
I had a friend in college who also had a life's ambition to work for Disney (though not as an artist). She got her wish. But from what I have seen... I am sad for her.
I admire Pixar *so* much. I wish I were born a few decades later so I could have grown up with my life's ambition being to work for them. Everything I learn pleases me.
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I haven't seen Lilo and Stitch, or pretty much anything Disney after Pocohantas. A friend though said it traumatized her daughter.
I will confess that my kids love The Holy Grail. Thanks to the joys of DVD we just skip a few scenes.
We watch lots of MGM musicals. Their favorite is On The Town .
Let's see..they love Robotech ; I don't knoe if that's on DVD yet though. You can get lots of Speed Racer on DVD. And don't forget the ultimate in social commnentary, Godzilla .
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Why would anyone hate Lilo and Stich? There has to be a reason? I'm just curious. (My step-daughters LOVE it.)
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I learned somewhere that Disney has closed down the animation school that Walt started way back when. They used to do the Disney cartoon shorts while they learned to do animation, eventually working on the movies. Now how are they going to get new talent?
I, for one, adored Lilo and Stitch. I thought it was funny and cute and it made me cry toward the end. I also liked how Nani had big thighs. It just made me happy that she wasn't built like a Disney princess.
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I recommend Yankee Doodle Dandy, which I may have spelled wrong. It's the George M. Cohen story.
Disney parents are idiots who don't get along with their kids . . . hmm . . . Lion King, Mulan, Beauty and the Beast . . . Posts: 13680 | Registered: Mar 2002
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Icarus, it is an either/or thing. Beauty and the Beast--father is an idiot.
Also, if they are animals or from another culture that would be un-PC to make fun of, the rule doesn't apply.
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*offensive word deleted*, don't tell me you let them see A Wrinkle in Time. Wash the memory of it out of their heads and then read them the book.
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The father is not an idiot in Beauty and the Beast. That's how Gaston and his sycophants see it, but they are brutish followers. He is an inventor, and if his failures are spectacular, that's just because failure is a necessary part of invention. But look at the principles he has grasped ahead of his time, and he is pretty brilliant. Don't look at how the villagers see it: look at it from Belle's point of view. Belle respects him, and would sacrifice her life to save him, and he would sacrifice his life to save her. Each shows real courage in their attempt to help the other.
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I actually watched it last night with them. Although as a cinematic piece it wasn't much, I thought they did a pretty nice job with the story.
Actually, I've been trying to get them to read books, but that's a bit harder. They just won't sit down and sit through them like I would. I have gotten my 8-year-old sister interested in the Oz books, though. She's currently reading Ozma of Oz to me, and it's got all kinds of big words in it. Posts: 8504 | Registered: Aug 1999
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Belle's father is scatterbrained (couldn't read a map), and eccentric, but brilliant.
One thing I would like to see more of in Disney movies is a positive mother figure. Cinderella only has an evil stepmother, Belle's mother is dead, Jasmine (Aladdin) has no mother apparently, Pocahontas' mother was dead, etc.
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Same here, Belle and Icarus. Belle's father was cool. A bit scatterbrained, but in a sweet eccentric sort of way.
Well, the mother on the lion king was rather cool, but you don't get to see much of her... Bambi's mom was cool too, but she got shot They really do need to have stronger mothers. And how about some Disney cartoons about black people? All the time they have white folks and just one movie with native americans and at least L and S had some hawaiian people which was cool and they had the LIONS and they were so much more like Imperial Britain... I mean, bowing down to someone who's going to eat you?
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My kids didn't like it much. And my "more sensitive" son (who was probably about 5 to 7 at the time) basically totally "shut down" for the rest of the day once he saw that opening scene where the father lion dies. He spent the rest of the time in the theatre with his eyes closed, ears plugged and head buried.
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When I say that the father was an idiot, I was referring to the scatter-brainness. It was done for comic effect rather than to be believable. Jasmine's father was the same exept far more so.
Edit: Perhaps "incompetent" would be a better word than "idiot". Sure, both of these fathers are good, sweet, men. Teddy bears. But they aren't the sort of character that you look up to. Pocahontas' father and Mufasa--now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout! Those are "good" father role models.
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Do you think they were bossy? Hmmm, I can understand seeing Pocahontas' father that way, though in my mind he was following a common cultural practice. Mufasa was kick-butt cool, but bossy?
And I guess where you are saying "lunky" I see "masculine".
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Lunky is more big chunky huge intimadating men built like football players. Mufasa was a great dad. He totally commanded Simba NOT to go into the Elephant's graveyard and was kind even when he caught him there anyway. Cant really remember much about Pocahontas. Maybe I should add it to my queue... *now has over 233 movies on it*
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One of our newest members here, Tink, my long time friend and now cousin-in-law, gave me the movie Pocahontas for my birthday years ago because it really "spoke to me". I am one of the few people I have interacted with that actually likes the movie. Posts: 7050 | Registered: Feb 2004
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I like the message, even though it's watered down a bit.. Native American spirituality rocks. i wish I was a Shaman
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Being a student, I've rediscovered Labyrinth in the last couple of years, having remembered how much I loved it as a kid. If you can get past the hokey 80's-ness of it all, it really is a wonderful film, scary, beautiful, strange, moral and also obliquely sexy. The ballroom scene was the basis for my best little girl romantic (and prom dress) fantasies.
The kids can enjoy the Muppets and the philosophical references and the adults can subject it to Freudian analysis. It's great! (And it's educational too - how many films teach you the meaning of the word oubliette?)
Can you tell that I love this film?
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2) Bambi, if they can get past the death of mommie moments.
3) Abbott and Costello movies -- a bit dated but good clean fun, and not as violent as the 3 stooges.
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Chicken Run (from the Wallace and Grommit folks) was a lot of fun.
And bev and Annie, I remember that TV version of Alice and Through the Looking Glass (it was both) too! It was weird, but oh so wonderful! And it was also my introduction to a lot of "famous names."
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When I was reading this thread earlier, Abigail was sitting with me, and when I clicked on the picture of Thomas, she said "That's Stitch! That boy looks like Daniel."
So, there are definitely some Stitch fans in my house too.
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Wow, you guys have already listed some of my favorites (Little Princess, My Neighbor Totoro, and Chicken Run).
My additional list:
Children of Heaven Baran E.T. Miracle on 34th Street Toy Story My Dog Skip Stand by Me Babe Charlotte's Web
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