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If there is a vegan gelatin alternative that can be substituted in any recipe, then gelatin dishes can be vegan, right? I'm assuming people will adapt recipes as appropriate to meet their needs.
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I don't know if any of them are clean substitutions. They're totally different substances.
I'm sorry I came off kind of harsh, ketchupqueen. I know you're just trying to be accommodating, and I'm not trying to jump down your throat... my real beef is with the people who falsely claim to be vegetarian, spreading disinformation that can be a real problem for the real vegetarians.
Of which I'm not one, by the way. Had me a nice ham and egg bagel this morning. So you can still be friends with me, according to Tom. Posts: 1681 | Registered: Jun 2004
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So what do you call a vegetarian like my mom? She won't eat any meat, but will eat milk, cheese and eggs. Basically, if it didn't DIE in order for her to eat it, she will eat it. (like cows don't die producing milk). (Some could argue eggs- but our eggs are non-fertilized so nothing died).
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Farmgirl, she sounds like a classic vegetarian... ovo-lacto vegetarian, to be precise, which is what vegetarian means in the US. If she didn't eat dairy products or eggs, she'd be a vegan.
The problem with gelatin (and, actually, lots of brands of cheese) is that something DID have to die to produce it. If nothing had to die to produce gelatin, it would be vegetarian (though probably not vegan).
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Farmgirl, did you get my email response on Thursday? I don't want you to think I'm ignoring you.
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As Tom and KQ said, I think if people are vegan, kosher, etc., they will be smart enough to make the appropriate substitutes. Except that many vegetarians eat cheese, thinking they are being cow-friendly, when most chees is made with rennet from the poor bovine's stomach. (just an aside)
Hey, I am registered and not on Dag's list. (feels left out)
Dkw'a style of cooking is like my grandmother's. When I read "Dandelion Wine" as a kid, the grandmother was so much like mine. Have you ever read it, Dana? (another aside, sorry)
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Hmm. I wondered about that the other day when I saw the jello and tuna in the vegetarian recipe. I clicked it and thought "ewww." I don't consider someone who eats fish to be a vegetarian, but I guess some people do. For arguement's sake, however, Zeugma is correct on the "clinical" definition of a vegetarian.
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Elizabeth, where are you? Trader Joe's and Bristol Farms both usually carry a large selection of vegetarian cheese (no animal rennet). Some Whole Foods carry it, too.
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KQ, I am not a vgetarisn any longer, but it I just wanted to point out the rennet issue. I live in W. Massachusetts, in a land called The Happy Valley.
Dag, oh. Sorry. I am no longer deeply hurt.
Edit: I thought my "Hatrack handle" would be the one to show up, can I change it?
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Dag, it just occurred to me. Do you by any chance have a paper or something that you are procrastinating writing? Hmm?
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Nah. I did reschedule my independent research project, but that means I'm not procrastinating on it any more. Posts: 26071 | Registered: Oct 2003
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Haven't read the whole thread yet... I saw it a couple of days ago, then got sick and now that I'm back at work, I see it's grown to four pages.
Anyway, I signed up and I've added a couple of recipes - just what I can do from memory here at work.
Great job Dag. But another suggestion (of course) - if you could change "Chinese" to "Asian", or perhaps make an Asian category on its own.
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I was planning on adding additional categories as needed. I think I'd prefer to have the different countries individually.
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Hey Paul, I note you have two vegetable stews posted. Are they different?
If it was an accident, can you let me know what led to it. I'm wondering if I need to add something to check for double posting if this happened with a slow connection and a second click.
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As a side note to the vegetarian issue - at one point in time, I ate meat only occassionally and never cooked it myself, so I called myself a social meat eater. That seems to be a much better definition than this pollo/pesco stuff. Which I hadn't heard of until this thread.
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Dag- Not sure. I don't think I double clicked, I'm on a DSL connection, but they are duplicates, so its some form of error. I probably did submit twice, somehow.
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quid: You're under Fun and Useful Links now. Later, I'll pull more links together and make a little module to put those links at the bottom of the screen. But for now, it's in the links section.
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ok. I'm sure I've got another recipe for soups and stews
My guess is I had the page open in two places and hit submit on both of them. I've been known to do that before.
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If you have 3 crockpots, you can do a main dish, a starch, and a dessert all in the crockpot. I love my crockpots. (I only have 2, but I borrow my mother-in-law's on occasion.)
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Oh, I also have several North African (Middle Eastern) recipes. I don't know if they require their own section, or if I should just find a spot for them elsewhere.
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OK, because the cuisine list is going to get unweildy very quickly, I'm going to implement ketchupqueen's previous suggestion and add regions. I'm thinking:
Americas (North and South) American Mexican Central American (does this break down by country??) Brazillian etc.
Northern European French English Scandanavian (should this break down by country?) Polish etc.
Mediteranean Spanish Italian Greek Turkish etc.
African Don't know any specific food types here except Ethiopian
Asian Chinese Japanes Indian Thai
Does Australia need it's own grouping?
I'll also ad "other XXX" to each group, and people can put the country in the description. WHen we get more than a few in a country, I can add new categories.
Let me know what you think and I'll implement this tonight.
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I think that until/unless the categories start to fill up it would be better to keep them broad and have more detail in the description.
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You should definitely break down Scandinavia; Norwegians and Swedes will get annoyed otherwise.
Personally, I'd do Eastern European (Polish, Russian, Ukranian, all the Baltic states would be in there but could probably go under other, Czech, etc.) and Western European (Irish, French, Scandinavian, English, etc.) rather than the way you have it set up. Mediterranean looks good to me, though, except for Turkish; Turkish should go in Middle Eastern (which you don't have, either.)
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