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Wow, so I'm not the only one who doesn't comform?? I really had no idea... And honestly I don't mind the whole toilet thing... cuz sometimes I pee without putting the seat down anyways >.>
Who the hell was it that decided that girls should shave anyways?? *shakes her fist angrily*
And Chobits aren't plastic.... I don't know what they're made of but it feels like skin...
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I agree with Mrs. M on the position of the toilet seat and lid. It's more hygenic, and less likely that you will accidentally drop things in the toilet. Everyone has to lift something and put something down. Moreover, depending on where you live, if the lid is down less dust collects and sticks to the bowl, making it easier to clean.
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quote: Because there's nothing like a good, thick coat of glossy fur to keep a woman's legs warm in the winter?
Now I must wipe the coffee spray off my monitor.
As for Chobits, I'm sure they have plastic in em. They're robots after all. That anime reminded me of that identity theft commercial where the young man was talking out of the woman's mouth talking about how he got 10,000 dollars to finish his robot... his GIRL robot.
Back on the main topic... If you wax for a few years, your hair gets really fine and shaving becomes a breeze (and you can stop waxing)
I can never convence my hubby to leave the seat down, despite the fact he's the only one who needs the state of the toilet seat to change from one use to another. Maybe going lesbian is the solution. Who here was looking for a girlfriend?
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I really never understood the whole total seat thing. I grew up in a household where both the seat and lid were always down. Really, what's the point of the lid if it's never closed?
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quote:As to the toilet seat - both the seat and the lid should be down when not in use. It's more sanitary.
Although it feels more sanitary to you, I am unconvinced that it really is.
Studies have been done. If the seat is consistently closed before the toilet gets flushed, bacterial counts on exposed bathroom surfaces (not to mention toothbrushes) will be lower.
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This summer marked the first occasion in my 18 years of living with teenage boys. My roomies and I coexisted peacefully in the bathroom for awhile - I tried, unsuccessfully, to teach them to put the lid down, but after awhile I gave up. It wasn't worth the effort.
And then they stopped flushing. Apparently there's a saying floating around (and I apologize for the crudeness) that states, "If it's brown, flush it down. If it's yellow, let it mellow." They innocently repeated this to me, as if that was supposed to explain their behaviour, and somehow make it socially acceptable. I made my disgust and rage pretty obvious to them, and I haven't had much of a problem with it since. (Not trying to derail the thread here, but) ladies, have you had any similar problems with male cohabitants of your home?
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The reason men should put the seat down is because THEY are the ones who dribble on the rim, so THEY are the ones who should have to deal with lowering the seat . And GEEZ it'd be nice if they would WIPE UP the dribbles in the first place.
Actually I'm completely with the people who want the seat AND lid lowered when the appliance is not in use, preferably BEFORE flushing so miniscule bits of toilet detritus are not going everywhere... bliech
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My main bathroom cabinet is above the toilet. If I don't keep it closed, things fall out of the cabinet and right in there. That's disgusting. It is always fully closed.
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Studies have been done. If the seat is consistently closed before the toilet gets flushed, bacterial counts on exposed bathroom surfaces (not to mention toothbrushes) will be lower.
Actually, they did this very test on Mythbusters and proved that it is, indeed, a myth.
The whole "there are studies" thing sounds just like something a bunch of control-freak chicks made up to get their way, since logic, persuasion, and ultimatums failed miserably.
Unless you'd care to document these "studies." Posts: 524 | Registered: May 2003
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I'm fairly certain that the toothbrush NOT falling in the toilet is more sanitary than the toothbrush falling in the toilet.
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well, on the local news they went into a new bathroom with a black light and showed viewers the bathroom. Then they added some extra phosphorescent stuff to the toilet bowl, flushed with the lid open and brought out the black light again. Their were bits of the phosphorescent stuff all over the counters and wall.
Good enough to convince me.
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Nothing like local news to bring real science to the forefront of our nightly dose of sensationalism and general quackery.
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quote:Originally posted by Sweet William: Studies have been done. If the seat is consistently closed before the toilet gets flushed, bacterial counts on exposed bathroom surfaces (not to mention toothbrushes) will be lower.
Actually, they did this very test on Mythbusters and proved that it is, indeed, a myth.
The whole "there are studies" thing sounds just like something a bunch of control-freak chicks made up to get their way, since logic, persuasion, and ultimatums failed miserably.
Unless you'd care to document these "studies."
Hmm. If I didn't have to leave soon for work, I'd try to track them down. I know I read one which did bacterial cultures over the course of a week or so, first under one set of conditions, and then the other.
Can you tell me exactly what they did on the Mythbusters episode you are citing?
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quote:Originally posted by Sweet William: Actually, they did this very test on Mythbusters and proved that it is, indeed, a myth.
I thought they proved that even a new toothbrush in a sealed container would end up with little bits of bacteria on it, not that the toothbrushes near the toilet didn't get anything on them. But I think the conclusion was that the bacteria was harmless, so putting the lid down before flushing didn't exactly save you from disease or anything.
Edit for rivka: They took a whole bunch of new toothbrushes and placed them all over the bathroom, and then they took one and sealed it in a container in a different room. I think the ones closest to the toilet had the most bacteria (though all the ones in the bathroom had some), but not even the one in the sealed container remained sterile.
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There's no question that the vast majority of the bacteria that will be growing in your bathroom will not harm you. It's that 1-5% that cause mild (but avoidable) symptoms that I'd like to avoid.
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They tested whether a toothbrush left hanging, unprotected in one of those toothbrush thingys in the loo would have more or less e-coli than one left in a protected area (I think a closet or something).
The toothbrushes were both used daily (as a tool for brushing teeth, only) and returned to their respective "receptacles."
The in-loo brush had no discernible e-coli, likewise the control brush had no discernible e-coli.
Not exactly a refutation of the "there were studies" comment. But whatever, call bullshit on me if you must.
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quote: Nothing like local news to bring real science to the forefront of our nightly dose of sensationalism and general quackery.
quote: Hey if it is on the news it is real!
So you must be assuming it was a set-up and what they showed was false, since hey it was only the local news Please show me where I implied it was real science vs a convincing demonstration?
Hey, they also did a spot using the same method with black lights and dust to show how effective or ineffective hand washing can be when someone simply rinses their hands, washes them briefly with soap, or takes time to lather and rinse well. But since it was ONLY the local news, clearly it was just a set-up, so I'll just go back to rinsing.
They also did a spot on how many children get into toxic substances when household chemicals are kept under the sink rather than in a more secure place like high up in a locked cabinet. But gee, it was ONLY the local news not REAL science, I'll just go back to keeping my bleach and liquid plumber under the sink. Clearly they had ulteriormotives and it was all a set up.
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quote:The Myth: (in Adam's own words) "The idea behind this myth is the bristles of a wet toothbrush are an ideal collection surface for things like airborne bacteria."
The Experts: Heather Joseph-Witham says that some people believe you shouldn't leave your tooth brush in the bathroom, particularly next to the toilet. Dr. Joanne Engel - Microbiologist from UCSF - tests all of the toothbrushes for Fecal Coliform bacteria
Quotable Moments: Jamie: There's poo everywhere!
Action/ Results: Adam builds two toothbrush racks in the bathroom. They hang twenty-four toothbrushes in the racks. Then, every day for a month, Adam and Jamie go in, wash their hands with antibacterial soap, then wet each toothbrush, put toothpaste on each one, then rinse each one out with distilled water. They also leave two toothbrushes in a glass on the top of the toilet, and they actually brush their teeth with those. They also have two toothbrushes that they keep in the office, away from the bathroom. These also get the wetting, toothpaste, rinse treatment. They also keep track of how much business goes on in the bathroom for that month.
At the end of the month, Dr. Engel comes over and tests each toothbrush for fecal coliform by rubbing them on a Petri dish and in some broth. She incubates the dishes and the test tubes, and then shows the guys that all of the toothbrushes, including the two in the office, had fecal coliform on them. Myth true - fecal coliform bacteria do grow in toothbrush bristles.
However, when Adam askes if we should be concerned about this, Dr. Engel says no.
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No I don't! I almost never watch the news, local or otherwise. Well, I hardly watch any TV. We have one local station with Deanna Sauceda. If she is scheduled to do an interesting spot, I usually try to watch it. She does lots of good bits on things related to health and safety.
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quote: I heard on NPR that leg shaving originated with prostitutes
False, leg shaveing originated during world war two. with all the men gone they had to find a new market.
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To the person who asked, my hair is a middle brown.
To all the toilet seat debaters: Personally I'm a fan of closing the lid, because I'm clumsy and drop things in there if I don't, but if you're not going to do that I can see both the male and female sides of the issue.
However.
Can anyone explain why the toilet seat in the women's restroom at my office always ends up left up? Men accidently wandering in? Space aliens?
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The cleaning staff. The clean the outside first, then the inside, and leave the seat up for it to dry off.
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I run into the cleaning staff in the bathroom at all times during the day. It's kind of bizarre.
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I used to shave or wax my legs religiously like my life depended on it. I have a lot of leg, and a lot of hair, so this was always such a chore. Now I just don't. I am way too busy, and barely have time to sit for a meal let alone spend an hour on removing leg hair. My boyfriend actually prefers au natural, which is a good thing cause I think most men would totally be grossed out with my leg hair situation.
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Good. I have a moment’s time to do whatever I want on the internet, so I figured I would publicly admit to having the hairiest pair of legs living along the California beaches. How you doin?
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Is it shaped like anything cool? And how dense is it? Is it just a collection of wispy hairs, or is it a swatch of man-fur?
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I don't necessarily buy the WWII-Returning-GIs explanation of leg shaving. It could be where the practice came from in this country, but it's not like there isn't a long history of leg depilation (and body depilation in general, especially for women) in ancient Greek, Egyptian, and Roman cultures.
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Definitely man-fur. It's dark and thick enough to see at a distance. It's shaped like a blob and only appears on the lower left part of my back (up about 4-6 inches from my butt). The hair itself is quite soft, actually.
Now my chest hair, that's shaped like an upside-down star. A little creativity, and I could be the antichrist or something.
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I remember you were expecting a child. Congrats Glynn! I am now an apprentice at a private detective agency and my boss just walked in. I don't have nearly as much downtime as I did working as a web developer. Internet time is so precious now. induceATgmail.com Dude, shoot me an email.
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quote: Avadaru said: "If it's brown, flush it down. If it's yellow, let it mellow." They innocently repeated this to me, as if that was supposed to explain their behaviour, and somehow make it socially acceptable.
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The lid down/seat down/up discussion gets resolved really fast once you have young kids. I'm talking about that 2-5 age group that waits as long as possible to go to the bathroom and then runs headlong to use the toilet.
If the lid is down, they have an accident while trying to lift it. If the lid is down and they DON'T NOTICE, it gets messy. If the seat is up, they fall in. Seat down, lid up is the only way to go. Posts: 251 | Registered: Apr 2005
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