Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?
Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!
I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?
And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.
There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!
You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
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Chad, I don't understand how you can think it's acceptable to post what you just did.
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Especially since half of America agree's with him. So only Georgia, Texas, Kentucky, Alabama, Florida, Luoisiana, Virginia and a few others would agree with you.
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Oh come on! I'm not talking about his "followers" as people who may share some of his ideals. I'm talking about his followers in the "religious sense" who hold Michael Moore up as their Osama bin Laden and bringer of truth, etc. etc. The extremists that as far as I know aren't part of this board.
And 50% of Americans do not agree with him on all of his opinions.
SO please understand, I'm talking about Michael Moore specifically and only him. I'm not talking about anyone on this board directly or indirectly. If you felt that I was including you I apologize and will remove the followers line.
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Oh, so you only urge a small percentage of Americans, that happen to disagree with you, to blast themselves. How refreshing, I feel much better.
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Michael Moore's version of truth is often a bit peculiar, however, his point about the National Guard is right on.
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Chad, I still think your post is in incredibly bad taste with or without the followers part. How would you feel if someone posted the same thing but substituted your name for Michael Moore's? Can you not disagree with someone without wanting them dead?
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quote:There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you.
No really, like who Michael Moore? Only an idiot would do that?
I think he needed to put down his pen and think twice before he wrote that, but thinking as we know isn't one of Michael's strongpoints.
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quote:Chad, I still think your post is in incredibly bad taste with or without the followers part. How would you feel if someone posted the same thing but substituted your name for Michael Moore's?
I wouldn't really care I don't think. I think it's akin to posting something negative about the President of the United States or wishing he was dead, how would YOU feel? I'm sure people keep in mind President Bush's feelings when they post their opinions on him.
Sorry, I don't want him dead, just America would be better off without him. And lefties as well as he makes them look sooo bad.
But the Phelps comparison is a good one.
Michael Moore = Lefty's Phelps.
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quote:I think it's akin to posting something negative about the President of the United States or wishing he was dead, how would YOU feel?
Saying something negative about someone is NOT the same as saying he should put a gun to his head and kill himself. If someone said the same thing you did about George W. Bush, I would feel about it exactly what I do about your post.
quote:Sorry, I don't want him dead, just America would be better off without him.
Why did you say he should kill himself if you don't want him dead?
quote:Michael Moore = Lefty's Phelps
Did you read the Addicted to Hate website that was linked to in one of the threads about Phelps? Michael Moore is in no way as bad as Phelps.
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I find that Moore gives good points among alot of badly put together stuff sometimes, COlunbine atleast was better then 9/11 in that regard.
But still alot of stuff mentioned is undenyable. He gives the evidence as he sees it with certain sources and leaves it to us to piece it together, my brother though Moore was trying to accuse Bush as being a terrorist, I just simply though that Moore s trying to make Bush seem like President Clarke from Babyoon 5 y'know trying to take over the government.
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The trouble was, Bowling for Columbine was a piece of hack propaganda. Moore does a serious disservice to his causes by making it so easy for his detractors to label him a jackass.
The media is sensationalistic in America. That point could have been made without blatantly editing Charlton Heston until he's a sock-puppet.
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I ignored a lot of that when I watched it. I know not everyone can, but I was more focused on the point he was trying to make about the media. Much of the news footage he used is from Detroit, it's the same news that I watch every night. I recognized almost all the anchors on the clips he showed. And his point is exactly why I don't watch the local news anymore.
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"But it doesn't mean that there's no truth in what he's saying."
Yes, he has a few points. But I really do NOT like extremists. I hate how people are saying Bush committed a mass murder. Pffft. Wow.
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I think Bush senoir did more to commit mass murder then Dubya did. Y'know not stepping to stop the gassing of Khurds, bombing of infastructure which hurt the populace more then Iraq's war effort, telling Iraqi's to revolt yet not doing anything to help the Iraqi's when they did etc etc.
As for Bowling I've found that actually a large majority of that movie was okay and raised many interesting questions.
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quote:Originally posted by johnsonweed: Michael Moore's version of truth is often a bit peculiar, however, his point about the National Guard is right on.
His comment about the National Guard was only half-right. The part that was wrong was placing the blame on the feds, because it's the state that has to mobilize their National Guard detachment.
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I got this e-mailed to me, too. Does anyone really know where it came from? I saw no proof it was actually MM, nor was it attributed to any source.
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quote:Originally posted by Eldrad: The part that was wrong was placing the blame on the feds, because it's the state that has to mobilize their National Guard detachment.
I've always been under the impression that it is the President's right to federalize the National Guard whenever he deems it necessary, enabling them to go in even if the state has not mobilized them.
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No, I think the governors have to request NG mobilization.
And the regular military is constrained inside the US.
The part about the Guard that Moore was right about is that they and their choppers (I assume they took lots of helos) are in Iraq. 1/3 of LA's Guard is in Iraq.
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quote:Originally posted by Morbo: No, I think the governors have to request NG mobilization.
And the regular military is constrained inside the US.
The part about the Guard that Moore was right about is that they and their choppers (I assume they took lots of helos) are in Iraq. 1/3 of LA's Guard is in Iraq.
Not completly, or most of the Guard wouldn't be over in Iraq. The Gov's have to give the order to use them WITHIN OUR BORDERS, for the most part.
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I love how in Moore's version of reality, Bush actually CAUSED the storm by not instantly halting global warming and transforming the world's environment in five years Heck, if Bush would just get off his ass and engineer us a perfect environment, there'd never be another hurricane again!
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quote:Not completly, or most of the Guard wouldn't be over in Iraq. The Gov's have to give the order to use them WITHIN OUR BORDERS, for the most part.
That is true. The Governor of a state has to authorize the National Guard NOT from their state to be able to enter it.
I truly believe had Bush just sent in the National Guard without authorization, the people shot today would have been chalked up politically as "Bush's Army Invades New Orleans with Orders: Shoot to Kill!".
Political pundits and media will spin or bend anything the president does to their political gain. The DNC led the charge with their website, and of course the Media took the cue.
Just try and look up stories of survival and rescue on Michael Moore's website.
HINT: They don't exist although the stories do.
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Lyrhawn, I don't understand why you keep sticking on this. The President cannot order National Guards to do things in their home state. He is not their commander. It's the military. Just because something appears likely to make sense doesn't mean you get to just yank control from the commander.
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OH MY GOD! Moore actually has a following? I'm sure he'll make more money now for rhetoric!
The Mayor should have requested NG to his Governor .. NOT THE PRESIDENT@!!@#$#@$#@$(*
The state has to ask for the NG to be activated.. not the federal government! The Mayor didn't do this nor did the govenor! The LA NG didn't show up until Today! Texas showed up before their state did!
Yall need to get a grip on what the NG is and who activates them!
I'm so sick of everyone blaming the federal government for what the Mayor and State should have done! If it weren't for the feds overstepping their boundries, N.O. would still be in chaos!
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I think it's weird for someone who is against government intervention in every facet of out lives to love a man who often pleads for more of it, but ok.
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