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No. It wasn't horrible. There was no lying involved. They misunderstood, and when I "witnessed", I told them that I was Jewish, but that as a hospice nurse in their community I had met many members of their congregation, both still with us and passed. I told them, truthfully, that I was tremendously impressed by the community that they had built and by the generosity of their congregation. I told them that I had a lot of experience working with the sick, and what they had made in their congregation was very special and unusual. I told the congregation that I had made a promise to a member who had recently passed that I would come by on a Gospel Sunday and meet the minister. I praised the congregation for it's good works and repeated that I was Jewish, and that I would go back to my Rabbi and tell him what good works they were doing, so that we may better copy their good example.
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Is "preachiness" a bad thing in a Church? I thought that was kind of the point of church. Isn't someone who is "preachy" just sounding too much like church?
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Well, I get frustrated with too much preachiness. When I'm constantly told that I'm going to hell even though I'm trying my best to live a good life, it's too much preachiness. When I constantly feel like I'm being told that I'm wrong all the time, then it's too much.
EDIT: I already have someone in my life to yell at me about how wrong I am, and that's me. I don't need a church doing it too.
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When people use the word “preachiness” they usually mean sanctimonious, self-righteous, longwinded, and/or boring. So yes, this is a bad thing in a church.
It’s one of my personal pet-peeves, and I take the opportunity when possible to encourage people not to use the words “preaching” or “sermon” when they really mean “long boring sanctimonious screed.”
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I used the word preachiness precisely because it carries a negative connotation. If I was going to talk about preaching or sermons or anything, I would use different wording. Plus I don't like throwing around words like sanctimonious because then it makes it look like I'm putting all of it on one person. Usually it's not one person who makes me feel the whole preachiness thing; it's more likely to be everyone and the church environment. *shrugs* I'm weird though.
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Actually I think a lot of churches are going to have small college age classes. It's a tough class to keep going - I was an assistant teacher for one.
Consider that many of the kids of the congregation may be off to school in another area, and in town, many college students don't attend local churches because they might travel back home on weekends or participate in college ministries on campus. UAB actually has classes on Sundays, so that's another obstacle - the kids might actually be in class. College age is a really tough group, I'm not surprised there wasn't a big turnout in the class. But I do hope you find a church you enjoy.
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UTD doesn't have Sunday classes. I think the main problem is that most of the kids that go here are from other fairly close places, so they probably go to church back at home (if they go). There may or may not be a college ministry on campus, I just haven't seen it (and our school's website is messed up as far as student organizations go at the moment). So *shrugs* I don't know.
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There is something positive to be said for a small class anyway, especially if the class is discussion based. Eight is a nice sized group for conversation. And don’t be too quick to write people off based on their marital status . They’ll still have some of the same concerns and questions you do. Marriage doesn’t change everything.
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Well this is going to sound kind of bad. I went to a church primarily to a) get back more towards religion (since even though I've been away from it a while, I still feel a connection) and b) to be more social and force myself to overcome my anxiety related to that situation. My secondary reason for going to church though was to meet (at some point in the future I supposed) a girl who shares similar values to my own. With me being the youngest and one of the few singles in this class, I have no luck there at the moment. That's not to say that I won't in the future. I haven't written off this church or this group. In fact, I'm probably going to go there again this Sunday.
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"Community" is an excellent reason to join a church. And even if there aren't singles your age in the class, like you said there may be in the church, or there may be former members who went off to college like you. . . but who's parents still go there, who might notice a nice young man going to church and introduce you to their daughters when they're home visiting. By which point you may have gotten over some of your anxiety over being in the social situation.
Anyway, not that I'm saying church will become a dating service for you. But if you want to meet a woman with sinilar values, it's not a bad place to start.
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quote: but who's parents still go there, who might notice a nice young man going to church and introduce you to their daughters when they're home visiting.
Or...
married people deciding that their siblings should meet that nice guy too
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Yeah, I understand. As I said, I'm pretty sure I'm going back to this church again on Sunday. I liked the contemporary service and the class, and the people were all very nice. Heck, the pastor called me last night to thank me for coming and to ask me what my opinion on the service was.
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I think the Lord has a way of making things work, but you also have to be able to be found as well. Putting a little effort in like socializing is like giving the Lord a chance to bless you.
Otherwise, you have to hope the mail carrier is perfect for you.
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Well that's why I'm trying my hardest. In the past, I probably never would have considered going to church again. I think my medication (despite the mood swings it seems to cause) has leveled me out enough that I can go to it though. The anxiety is still there; it's just no longer insurmountable.
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pfresh, since you registered in May of this year, I'm not sure you realize what Bob is broadly hinting about. Although maybe you were lurking before that and know very well. But I'm still gonna fill you in quick, 'cause otherwise I think his posts look kinda weird.
Bob met his wife, dkw, through Hatrack. dkw was a confirmed bachlorette, and is a Methodist minister. She had a list of requirements for a potential mate as long as my arm that she pretty much figured meant she was never going to meet someone. He lived in Texas, she lived in Iowa. They had met in person casually a couple of times when he was traveling for work. A while later they became interested in each other, started emailing and talking on the phone, set a date to get together as a date, and got engaged officially on that first date but actually they really already had on the phone. This was around March 2004. Bob moved to Iowa at Thanksgiving, and they were married April 2, 2005. A lot of Hatrackers went to/were in the wedding. So his comments about God having all sorts of ways to find the perfect person for us are best understood when you know a little of his history.
They are disgustingly happy together. And he meets all her requirements. So instead of hearing him like your father, try hearing him as a smug newlywed.
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That's an interesting story. Still sounds sort of like my father though.
EDIT: I decided to add that I'm happy to find that dkw was able to find someone that fits all her requirements. I sometimes doubt that someone exists out there that fits all mine.
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For more info, go to the landmark archive and read dkw's latest (it has links, if I remember correctly).
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No, it's not being a pain or anything. It's more being optimistic and stuff. My father's always telling me "A.J., stop worrying about it. God has things all worked out, and you'll meet the right girl when the time is right." It's a totally optimistic, supposed to be reassuring thing. And my official retort to your smugness is this:
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