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Euripides
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While collecting the names of authors recommended on Hatrack, I thought it might be a good idea to compile all the book recommendation threads into one list. For reasons obvious to any long-time Hatracker , I didn't get all of them - but here is my attempt.

If you find a better bibliography/website for an author than the one listed, or if you want to add a title, please post here.

If you otherwise find an error, please e-mail me.

[ November 02, 2006, 01:16 AM: Message edited by: Euripides ]

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That is really cool, Euripides. [Smile]

I know I was one of the people who recommended Kay Kenyon once upon a time, I was thrilled to see her on your list. If anyone wants to know what book of hers to start with, they are all stand alones, and I think Tropic of Creation is her best so far.

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Thanks Belle. I've added that title under Kenyon.
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Wow. That is seriously impressive! I think I will have to bookmark it for future library trips. [Smile]

I just skimmed it for right now, but I did notice that while you have Cyrano de Bergerac listed as an author (which he was), you don't have Edmond Rostand listed. He wrote the play Cyrano de Bergerac, which is probably where that name is best known from.

Also (a nitpick), under Robin Hobb, the Tawny Man trilogy actually comes last chronologically, after Farseer and Liveship. I wasn't sure if you were necessarily listing titles in order, but the other series titles seemed to be listed sequentially.

How long did it take you to compile all that? I don't think it was all just from one thread, or even five threads. Anyway, thanks! I quite appreciate it. [Smile]

Edit: One more - The Mozart Season is by Virginia Euwer Wolff.

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Euripides
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Thanks Nell [Smile] I've added Rostand and fixed the mix-up with the Wolffs and Woolfs. Regarding Hobb, I put series entries above stand-alone novels, just for consistency. The books are chronological within the series but stand-alones are alphabetised.

Thanks for pointing those things out.

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Ohh, got it. I should have realized that, but that's what I get for skimming. Plus it's WAY past my bedtime. [Wink]

I went back and looked at Robin Hobb more carefully (again with the skimming), and I don't think you realized this - all her books are parts of trilogies. The Farseer, Liveship Traders, and Tawny Man trilogies are all set in the same world, with some character crossover between them. This is their chronological order:

The Farseer Trilogy - Assassin's Apprentice, Royal Assassin, Assassin's Quest
The Liveship Traders Trilogy - Ship of Magic, Mad Ship, Ship of Destiny
The Tawny Man Trilogy - Fool's Errand, Golden Fool, Fool's Fate

Shaman's Crossing is the first book of the Soldier's Son trilogy. I don't know what the next books will be called, though. I don't think she's named them yet.

Also, robinhobb.com is the author's homepage. [Smile]

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Hopefully I've got it right now. As you must have guessed I haven't yet read any Hobb - my loss. I even had Liveship Traders down as a stand-alone novel! Just goes to show that I'm not cut out for clerical work!

According to Wikipedia the next two novels after Shaman's Crossing are going to be called Forest Mage and Renegade Magic. If you don't mind I'll keep the link to the wikipedia article, since robinhobb.com doesn't have a bibliography, which is more what I was looking for. But thanks again for the corrections.

I didn't mean to ignore your other question in your previous post - I split the time up over about a week or so, and took the names from as many book rec threads as I could find.

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Jesus, that's one hell of an impressive list.

Some additions:

"Arrow of God" under Chinua Achebe.

Specifically for Khalil Gibrab "The Prophet"

It's Lois, not Louis Lowry, I'm almost positive.

Also three authors I didn't see on your list. Michael (and Jeff!) Shaara, who started off with "The Killer Angels," and was followed by his son with "Gods and Generals" and "The Last Full Measure" all books about the Civil War, and all excellent.

And Joseph Conrad. "Heart of Darkness" especially is a classic. But beyond that, "Under Western Eyes" and "Lord Jim" are also great. And also "Nostromo." He also has a ton of short stories, but I'd suggest buying a collection of them, rather than all separately, if you even can buy them separately.

I'd suggest adding "Truman" to your list of David McCullough books.

Kudos on Thomas Madden's "Concise History of the Crusades" it's a fantastic book and a great read!


If you'll permit me, there are quite a few books I'd like to add to your more historically oriented subcategories, but It's a bit late at the moment for me to remember them all. Tomorrow I'll post some additions if you don't mind.

One last thing, suggest adding "My Ishmael" to your Daniel Quinn list, it's the sequel to "Ishmael."

Edit to add: Also please add "The Dubliners" to James Joyce. I read it in high school and my writing was changed forever by the imagery in that book.

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Euripides
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You're right about Lois Lowry, Lyrhawn. Thank you. Good call on Conrad! I've added your other recommendations - and feel free to post others when you like.

One of these days I might sneak in some of my own favourites as well.

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I would suggest the following additions:

for Chrichton, add:
timeline
sphere
congo
as some of his best work in my opinion

for David Brin, add:
The Postman (for all us post-apocalyptic nuts)

and if you care to list them for Peter F Hamilton:
Reality Dysfunction
Neutronium Alchemist
Naked God

and I'd suggest adding
Frank, Pat:
Alas, Babylon

incredible work though, and I know I hope to make good use of it.

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TomDavidson
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I believe we've mentioned more of Adams' work than just his first book. And I think it's safe to say that both Martin and Pratchett had particularly "glowing" reviews.

Additionally, Good Omens is not a Discworld book, but rather a standalone written with Neil Gaiman.

And why would Neil Gaiman not be a "speculative fiction" writer, along with King? I'm not sure I understand your distinctions, and wonder whether it'd be easier to note the genre as a property of the book rather than trying to use those properties to define a list of authors.

[ June 15, 2006, 11:02 AM: Message edited by: TomDavidson ]

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Wow. That is awesome. Fantastic job.
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Very, very, very cool.
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Wow.

O.O

That is so incredible, Euripides!

Some mistakes I spotted:

EDIT: Is Laura Ingalls Wilder 'historical fiction'? It was written in the past, not looking too far back, as it were.

Also I would question Daphne Du Maurier's "Rebecca" placed in Historical Fiction, because, again, it's set in the time it was written in.

Sean McMullen's book is called "Eyes of the Calculor" not "Eyes of the Calculator".

[ June 15, 2006, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: Teshi ]

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That is one impressive list. [Smile]

You should add Steppenwolf to Herman Hesse. That is a truly amazing book.

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Fantastic. Thanks.

Every single work of speculative fiction that I have read during the past 6 years has been a Hatrack recommendation. And I have to say that ya'll have not failed me.

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How about adding a webcomic section? Since that's my own personal obsession.

Or a list of editorial writers we like to read? Like Dave Berry or Chris Bridges?

TV series you shouldn't miss like LOST and BSG?

This is a great resource!

Pix

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This is amazing. That took a lot of work, and will now be responsible for both my Netflix queue and my library list [Smile] .
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Thanks for all the feedback and corrections everyone. I knew there would be plenty of errors but this is a bit embarassing. [Frown] But keep them coming - I'd rather find out sooner than later.

quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
[...] Additionally, Good Omens is not a Discworld book, but rather a standalone written with Neil Gaiman. [...]

Thanks - not sure how that ended up there! Also, the other books under Pratchett are not Discworld books either, since they're not indented.

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[...] I'm not sure I understand your distinctions, and wonder whether it'd be easier to note the genre as a property of the book rather than trying to use those properties to define a list of authors.
Ideally I would have liked to do that as well. The main reason I didn't do so is because maintaining the list could easily become a part-time job! But I've left open the option of doubling up on an author - Orwell for example is in HF&SF with 1984, and under Other Fiction with Animal Farm (I wasn't sure how to categorise allegory).

I divided it up into two groups because they were more useful to me that way. I mainly look up Hatrack recommendation threads for either good speculative fiction, or for classics and other books which would help to educate myself. So I wanted the SF and fantasy writers in one place, with everyone else in another. The 'Other Fiction' was to contain mostly those classics and contemporary fiction. Basically, I want anyone with one of those purposes in mind to be able to get away with looking at only one list, and seeing not always specific titles but author's names they can look out for at the bookstore.

That way, soemone looking for OSC-like SF doesn't have to wade through Joyce and Austen, and vice versa for people looking for classics. So generally I put authors in categories depending upon which type of visitor would be looking for them.

But the errors you pointed out have been corrected - thanks. Just explaining my reasoning. I've added a bit to the explanations at the beginning of each category.

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Originally posted by The Pixiest:
How about adding a webcomic section? Since that's my own personal obsession.

Or a list of editorial writers we like to read? Like Dave Berry or Chris Bridges?

TV series you shouldn't miss like LOST and BSG?

This is a great resource!

Pix

Sure, that would be great. I would need some help though - I'm even less familiar with web comics than I am with speculative fiction writers (the reason I made the list in the first place). TV series shouldn't be that difficult - we can just start here. Some that I can think of that Hatrackers seem to like:

Alias
Babylon 5
Battlestar Galactica
Firefly
Lost
Stargate SG-1
Star Trek: The Original Series
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Star Trek: Voyage
Star Trek: Enterprise

Just add others as you think of them, and once we have enough I'll append it to the list.

I'm also not familiar enough with editorial authors (I usually don't note their names), but would be happy to add a list if people can come up with one. I'm also thinking of adding a list of books mentioned in the forwards and afterwards of the Enderverse books. I should have that covered though.

Thanks again everyone.

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Oh, no! Did Good Omens go away altogether? It's my favorite Pratchett book -- although Small Gods is a close second -- and I'd hate to think I killed it. *laugh*
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Sex and the City is my all time favorite TV show...
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Good Omens is now back under Gaiman [Smile]

I think what originally happened there was a copy and mis-paste.

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I would add Buffy and Angel to that list of TV shows.
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Ok - I'll keep the list in this post and keep updating it as people add to it.

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Alias
Angel
Arrested Development
Babylon 5
Battlestar Galactica
Boy Meets World
Buffy
Deadwood
Dr. Who
Entourage
Farscape
Firefly
Frasier
Futurama
House
Lost
Malcolm in the Middle
Scrubs
Sex and the City
Stargate SG-1
Star Trek: The Original Series
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Star Trek: Voyager
Star Trek: Enterprise
Veronica Mars
West Wing

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Good Omens was co-authored by Pratchett and Gaiman. [Smile] Forgive me.
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Frasier
Arrested Development
Malcolm in the Middle

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Veronica Mars
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Wow.
I have been hoping for this for a long time.
Thank you so very much for all your effort!
Could this be a sticky thread, maybe, or in another spot, so we don;t need to search for it?

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Glad you found it useful [Smile] This thread shouldn't have to be a sticky, since the list will always be in the same place. Also, there's a link to this thread on the list's page, so hopefully no one will have to run a search to find it.
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As recommended I went and got a copy of American Gods today - and just in time too, since I managed to get one of the few remaining signed copies!

Turns out Gaiman was in Sydney for the writer's festival.

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For the TV list:
Entourage
Scrubs

And Euripides, this is absolutely brilliant. Thanks.

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House
Dr Who

Ni!

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quote:
Originally posted by TomDavidson:
Good Omens was co-authored by Pratchett and Gaiman. [Smile] Forgive me.

I should have caught it myself [Frown]

Thanks Celaeno and kwsni - I've added your shows.

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Wow, thanks for the work! I came here sure I'd have to dig the posts for a list and there it is, all done! I'm going to use and abuse this. [Smile] [Kiss]
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TV:
Farscape
West Wing

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Thanks Anna and Grimace [Smile]
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How about science journals (Edit: and magazines)? I'll start the list if I may with:

Archaeology
MIT Technology Review
Natural History
Nature
New Scientist
Scientific American

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I would not call either of those a science journal. They are popular science publications, appropriately called science magazines.

For a science journal, look at Nature. Science News, though it bills itself a science newsmagazine, is also closer to being a scientific journal than either New Scientist or Scientific American.

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I stand corrected. I meant 'science journal' only loosely.
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So to clarify - I'll take both magazines and journals, as long as they're science related. I'll put Nature on the list, since it's bound to be recommended.
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It's a really great list, but I'd like to see some kind of system to distinguish the "must reads" on the list. There are lots of books on there that I have read and are okay, but are not knock-down, flat-out amazing. Those I'd love to see some way to highlight or something.
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Very cool!
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TV show- Boy Meets World

Books: Brave New World- Aldous Huxley
Roots- Alex Haley
and a link to the OSC library page.

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PC: the problem is this is all a matter of opinion, there is at least one book on there that I know people who have claimed it to be fantastic and a must-read, and apparently at least one on this board agrees even though I consider it absolute drivel...

now if we hosted some kind of public rating of each entry then sure (a-la imdb or other rating systems) but it would be a lot more work, if helpful.

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Yeah. I mean, there's no sure way to tell if I'll like a book or if it is worth reading. Consensus is really the only way to get close to the mark.
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Books: Ayn Rand - Anthem

Webcomics:
MegaTokyo - Megatokyo.com
The Order Of The Stick - http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript
PVP - pvponline.com
Something*Positive - somethingpositive.net
Dominic Deegan - www.dominic-deegan.com

Webcomics by Jatraqueras:
Green Avenger - http://www.green-avenger.com/
(my own) Crossroads of Booger County - cobc.comicgenesis.com

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quote:
Originally posted by Primal Curve:
It's a really great list, but I'd like to see some kind of system to distinguish the "must reads" on the list. There are lots of books on there that I have read and are okay, but are not knock-down, flat-out amazing. Those I'd love to see some way to highlight or something.

Thanks PC - when you say that some of the books there are ok but not amazing, are you talking about the ones which are already highlighted? I've highlighted (in yellow) most authors who were repeatedly recommended on Hatrack or appeared in the results of a poll Hatrackers took at sakeriver. At least in the SF section, the authors highlighted have in fact recieved very high praise on this forum.

Also, the list is meant to be one of books and films Hatrackers paid attention to, rather than of those which were unanimously praised. That is, there are also books there which were simply discussed often, or Hatrackers found controversial, as the blurb at the top of the list says. Otherwise, I would probably be taking Battlefield Earth off the list [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by Shawshank:
TV show- Boy Meets World

Books: Brave New World- Aldous Huxley
Roots- Alex Haley
and a link to the OSC library page.

Added your show and Roots. BNW is in the SF section and the link to the OSC library is at the beginning of the page [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by TheGrimace:
[...] now if we hosted some kind of public rating of each entry then sure (a-la imdb or other rating systems) but it would be a lot more work, if helpful.

If we can get a poll going, that would be great - I can highlight the true 'must-reads' in another colour.


Thanks for the list of webcomics, Pixiest - I'll append it once people have had a chance to add to it.

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Here's a coupla links to threads where we've discussed webcomics =) (I told you, they're an obsession of mine)

http://www.hatrack.com/cgi-bin/ubbmain/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=043392;p=0&r=nfx
http://www.hatrack.com/cgi-bin/ubbmain/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=033280;p=0&r=nfx

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Ok - the web comics list is up.

Is there a place we could run this poll, or are most people happy with the currently highlighted authors?

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I think a poll would be fun, but I doubt that I'd find it particularly useful. A lot of authors that I know would get the most votes are also authors that I know I don't like.

So really, I think it depends on whether you want to go to the trouble of making a poll.

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