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Lyrhawn
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If I had whined a pleaded for a Six HUNDRED dollar machine (barring games and controllers) when I was a kid at Christmas my parents would have flatly told me no, and would've done their best to make me happy with something else.

Even that sounds horrible. Sometimes you just have to tell kids "no" and that's it. For all their complaints, they WILL get over it, or they can at least wait until the price comes down to something reasonable.

Nighthawk, your hypothetical assumes that $600, regardless of being unreasonable or not is FEASIBLE. It isn't, for millions of families with demanding children.

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lawls? I'm shocked he hasn't said "n00b" yet.
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quote:
Originally posted by Swampjedi:
lawls? I'm shocked he hasn't said "n00b" yet.

Well I wouldn't want to be considered geek or a nerd, Swampjedi.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:

Nighthawk, your hypothetical assumes that $600, regardless of being unreasonable or not is FEASIBLE. It isn't, for millions of families with demanding children.

That's not feasible for me, and I'm a working adult with relatively few expenses. When PS4 comes out, people will have to mortgage their home to buy one. [Eek!]
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Lyrhawn
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Nah, they'll just take out a loan and pay for it like they would a car.

Hope the local credit union is offering great rates on PS4 loans in 2014.

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Uh, PUNJABEE, I think you should listen to yourself and move along. I'm sorry that you think you know what your talking about, but no one is buying it.
So move along.

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For a fun and simplified version of this threads' pointless 2nd half, click here

[Hat]

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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
If I had whined a pleaded for a Six HUNDRED dollar machine (barring games and controllers) when I was a kid at Christmas my parents would have flatly told me no, and would've done their best to make me happy with something else.

Even that sounds horrible. Sometimes you just have to tell kids "no" and that's it. For all their complaints, they WILL get over it, or they can at least wait until the price comes down to something reasonable.

Nighthawk, your hypothetical assumes that $600, regardless of being unreasonable or not is FEASIBLE. It isn't, for millions of families with demanding children.

That's why most people believe that Sony shot themselves in the foot with the PS3. One of the biggest costs in manufacturing the console comes from the Blu-Ray addition, which as Lyrhawn pointed out, is still unproven. Even the 360 is cheap by comparison, and the Wii (relatively) cheaper still. Between this launch line-up and the Wii's price point, Nintendo's going to dominate this holiday season (especially combined with the wild success of the DS/DS Lite), if not this round of consoles.

Also, Punjabee, you wouldn't listen to anyone's rebuttal of your arguments earlier in the thread, and you're not even adding anything coherent to the thread. Let the rest of us discuss without you derailing the thread.

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I seriously doubt my parents ever spent a TOTAL of $600 on ALL of my Christmas presents. Let alone just one.
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quote:
Originally posted by Vadon:
I didn't like the math that PUNJABEE used, so I decided to look into it m'self to see the costs. It's cheaper. Far cheaper.

Wii Package (Wii, remote, and sports) = $250 (Common knowledge)
SSB:M = $30 ( link )
3 Controllers for multiplayer = $12, $13, and $13( link and they will be compatable link)
Nunchuck for controller = $20 (Common knowledge)

Total cost for Punjabee's set up = $338

That's like... Really quite cheap. So while I'm at it, why don't I get a second Wiimote to have more multiplayer on the wii games?

Total cost = $378

Huh, now why don't I get say... two launch titles. I like Rayman and Zelda... $100.

Total Cost = $478

Well then, to round it off I think I'll get some of my old favorites. Let's say 6 NES games at 5 bucks a pop, that's $30 more.

Total cost = $507
For the Wii, 2 Wiimotes, 1 Nunchuck, 2 Launch Titles, SSB:M, 3 GC controllers, Wii Sports, and 6 NES games.

I think that's well worth it.

But then again, the value of things is subjective. Personally, I like the ideas people are coming up with for the zany remote.

it's actually $20 cheaper Vadon. The wiimote and a nunchuk are included in the box. Also, PUNJABEE probably meant Super Smash Brothers: Brawl, the nw game coming out next year at $50. However, GameCube controllers should still be compatible with the game.

-Bok

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Oh, well, my mistake. Thanks for the help.

But I guess it still balances out. 20 dollars off for the nunchuck plus twenty on brawl.

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BlackBlade
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quote:
Originally posted by Bokonon:
quote:
Originally posted by Vadon:
I didn't like the math that PUNJABEE used, so I decided to look into it m'self to see the costs. It's cheaper. Far cheaper.

Wii Package (Wii, remote, and sports) = $250 (Common knowledge)
SSB:M = $30 ( link )
3 Controllers for multiplayer = $12, $13, and $13( link and they will be compatable link)
Nunchuck for controller = $20 (Common knowledge)

Total cost for Punjabee's set up = $338

That's like... Really quite cheap. So while I'm at it, why don't I get a second Wiimote to have more multiplayer on the wii games?

Total cost = $378

Huh, now why don't I get say... two launch titles. I like Rayman and Zelda... $100.

Total Cost = $478

Well then, to round it off I think I'll get some of my old favorites. Let's say 6 NES games at 5 bucks a pop, that's $30 more.

Total cost = $507
For the Wii, 2 Wiimotes, 1 Nunchuck, 2 Launch Titles, SSB:M, 3 GC controllers, Wii Sports, and 6 NES games.

I think that's well worth it.

But then again, the value of things is subjective. Personally, I like the ideas people are coming up with for the zany remote.

it's actually $20 cheaper Vadon. The wiimote and a nunchuk are included in the box. Also, PUNJABEE probably meant Super Smash Brothers: Brawl, the nw game coming out next year at $50. However, GameCube controllers should still be compatible with the game.

-Bok

They are, testers found smash bros to be too hard to play with the new Wii controller, so either use game cube controllers or the old school one you can buy that works with wii.
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Swampjedi
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quote:
Originally posted by PUNJABEE:
quote:
Originally posted by Swampjedi:
lawls? I'm shocked he hasn't said "n00b" yet.

Well I wouldn't want to be considered geek or a nerd, Swampjedi.
Video game thread, that's a forgone conclusion. [Smile]

Edit to actually add something:

For someone who owns a good deal of GC games and controls, I'm very excited that I can use them with the Wii (if I understand correctly). I need to preorder mine! [Big Grin]

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You can connect up to 4 GameCube controllers, and all GC games should be compatible, according to reports.

-Bok

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Swampjedi
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That just makes my day. I do notice that GC controllers aren't necessarily compatible with Wii games, which makes sense.

I have to find a bunch of people to play this with - shouldn't be too hard. Might need a bigger TV though... [Big Grin]

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A Rat Named Dog
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Hey! Penny Arcade did a comic about this thread!

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/09/15

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(And it's been linked twice in the thread already.) [Wink]
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Wait, was that the third one back there? [Wink]
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Aw! I haven't actually read this thread in a while, so I missed it [Smile] I just remembered being really annoyed, and I thought that would lighten the mood ...
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Earendil18
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Actually, mine was technically the first "link" since the other one just pasted the url. Do I get a cookie? [Razz]
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BB, sorry I missed youyr post earlier. Actually, I find it skeptical that testers found the controls hard. The game just hasn't been in development long enough to get to real testing. From what I've read, the lead developer/designer made the decision on his own, from the start.

Which isn't a bad thing.

-Bok

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How many fo the launch games are actually going to coem out at launch though? And don't say all of them, that's always a lie. Remember the N64 launch? They promised ten or twenty games and we got two. Yes, two. And they were insanely expensive to boot.

And the third console in a row not to have a Mario title at launch. Sad...

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There are supposed to be upwards of 30 launch titles for the Wii that will be on sale with the system on day one. Also, if I recall correctly, N64 games were $50, just like any others. There may not be a Mario title at launch, but it's due to come out early next year if any of the rumblings are to be believed, and besides, Zelda is a much more engaging franchise than Mario (at least for me).
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Old Mario = way better than any Mario from N64 on. Mario64 makes me nauseous.

-pH

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I agree, pH. I love Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World. Those are awesome games. I find Mario 64 so so at best (not fun at worst). Mario Sunshine was a slight step up in my opinion, but it's still not great. I'd prefer they go back to side scrolling games. A Mario with graphics and unique gameplay like Donkey Kong Jungle Beat would be awesome in my opinion. On that note, I love New Super Mario Bros. on the DS. It's a great game, although over too soon (even with getting all the collectable coins and getting access to all the worlds/levels).
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quote:
Originally posted by Eldrad:
There are supposed to be upwards of 30 launch titles for the Wii that will be on sale with the system on day one. Also, if I recall correctly, N64 games were $50, just like any others. There may not be a Mario title at launch, but it's due to come out early next year if any of the rumblings are to be believed, and besides, Zelda is a much more engaging franchise than Mario (at least for me).

Sorry to burst your memory bubble, but the games at launch were a staggering $80. N64 games were usually $60 or even more because of the cartridges used. Wiki it, or at least look into it more.

Anyway, this guy articulates why I'm cautious and reserved about the Wii. And he also proves my point about the outrageous N64 game prices.

http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200609/N06.0915.1324.09291.htm

However, I will admit, I goofed. The Gamecube was the only console to launch without Mario, my bad. [Blushing]

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