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Storm Saxon
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I don't think they mean the same thing, or am I wrong? A google search seems to support this.
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rivka
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The dictionary say they are the same, although proselytize is more common.
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Storm Saxon
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O.K. I was only familiar with the noun. Thanks.

Personally, I think it's still more clear to use proselytize, but at least now I know it's acceptable to use proselyte as a verb. Again, thanks.

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rivka
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I didn't know until I looked it up either. I was also only familiar with the noun.
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Storm, that's entirely the wrong attitude. If you think it's wrong, then you should fight for that belief come hell or high water! What does some stupid writer of dictionaries know? Write a Wiki entry to prove the idiot wrong. Then jump all over anyone who uses the word in the wrong way.
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Somehow, no matter what chemistry they use, Proselyte just doesn't have the same flavor as Proseltize. Besides, it has almost the same amount of calories per gram, its just smaller servings.
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Stephan
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quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
Storm, that's entirely the wrong attitude. If you think it's wrong, then you should fight for that belief come hell or high water! What does some stupid writer of dictionaries know? Write a Wiki entry to prove the idiot wrong. Then jump all over anyone who uses the word in the wrong way.

Stephen Colbert fan?
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Storm Saxon
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quote:

Storm, that's entirely the wrong attitude. If you think it's wrong, then you should fight for that belief come hell or high water! What does some stupid writer of dictionaries know? Write a Wiki entry to prove the idiot wrong. Then jump all over anyone who uses the word in the wrong way.

I'm a lover, not a fighter, man. I promote my words through the power of loveology, not violence.

Hugs, not thugs!

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Silent E
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I also prefer proselytize, but within the LDS Church proselyte is the traditional way to say it, which of course leaves me just ever so slightly irritated whenever I hear it, which is often.
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
The dictionary say they are the same, although proselytize is more common.

I think it's a mistake. As someone whose job once was converting dictionaries and encyclopedias to e-text, trust me, these things happen. I don't believe that proselyte can be a verb.
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Silent E
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"I don't believe that proselyte can be a verb."

It is for most Mormons, and has been for probably well over 100 years. That's why I say that it annoys me, but I can't actually tell them they're all wrong.

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quote:
Originally posted by Stephan:
quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
Storm, that's entirely the wrong attitude. If you think it's wrong, then you should fight for that belief come hell or high water! What does some stupid writer of dictionaries know? Write a Wiki entry to prove the idiot wrong. Then jump all over anyone who uses the word in the wrong way.

Stephen Colbert fan?
Hatracker?
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Storm Saxon
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I am really curious as to why Mormons have prefered one over the other.
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Silent E
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So am I. You would have to find out how it started, because since then it's only because that's the way they always hear the word (since only a very small percentage of Mormons would ever come across the word, in either form, with anybody else that isn't Mormon).
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I cannot stand proselitize for the same reason I don't like utilize. "Use" is a perfectly acceptable word, as is "proselyte". "ize" is a verbing *twinkle* ending, and it's redundant on words that are already verbs to begin with.
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rivka
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quote:
Originally posted by starLisa:
quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
The dictionary say they are the same, although proselytize is more common.

I think it's a mistake. As someone whose job once was converting dictionaries and encyclopedias to e-text, trust me, these things happen. I don't believe that proselyte can be a verb.
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Definition:
Same as proselytize

Wordsmyth
American Heritage
Webster's 1913 edition
Webster's 1828 edition


There's more. Just because you (and I) are more familiar with it as a translation for ger does not mean it lacks other meanings.

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Silent E
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No, it's not, at least in this case. "Proselyte", as has been pointed out, is almost universally a noun, and only a noun. Thus, it needs a suffix of some kind to make into a verb (unless you're a Mormon, for example).
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Yeah, I've always understood "proselyte" to be a convert to a religion, a noun. "Proseletize" is a verb, meaning to "to make converts, or proselytes".

IMO, anyway

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