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rivka
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*snicker* Indeed.

And I missed the troll! Alas. *weeps*

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TomDavidson
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Ic, I love you. [Smile]
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[Big Grin]
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Olivet
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No one ever criticised your writing, dear. This is a pro fanfic thread- as positive about fanfic as Hatrack gets, since the author whose site this is detests it.

It probably is best that you don't post here if it makes so unhappy (and if you do it at school, when you should be doing school stuff.

Sorry, for implying the troll was a friend of yours. Someone suggested it, and it seemed plausible, but I did jump to the conclusion hastily. My bad.

If you email the janitor he can probably delete your account. You can edit any personal information out of your profile yourself, and delete your posts, if you wish.

Feel free to stick around if you like, though. I don't believe anyone honestly meant to hurt your feelings.

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Icarus
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Seriously, this thread is astonishingly positive about fan fiction. Short of a fan fiction forum, you would not find a friendlier write-up of fan fiction anywhere.
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quidscribis
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Wow. Look at what I miss when I don't read a thread. Will there be more? I'd like to know so I can break out the popcorn. [Razz]

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I didn't get my feelings hurt and I would hardly call what I said a "hissy fit". We obviously have very different opinions on this subject, but I presented a reasonable argument I think. I may have been overstepping it by calling people pathetic, but I didn't appreciate the condescending tone that many of you responded with beforehand.
You insulted people. Insults do not constitute reasonable arguments. And yes, you did overstep by insulting people. If you do that here, you won't be highly regarded.

If you want to present and/or defend an argue, try using logic. Keep the insults and name calling out of it. You might find you get better results or at least some sympathy.

And from what I read on this thread, your posts were the only ones that were condescending.

However, if, as you say you aren't returning, then none of this matters. If you do decide to return, though, and you can, then learn to play nice.

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I'm not in the fanfic community - neither reading nor writing - so y'all talk about Mary Sues and I have no idea what is meant. Would someone care to explain?

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Well, you know, they do discuss and debate the meaning of the word right here! [Wink] Sounds like it's when an author writes herself into a story as a character, typically for some sort of ego gratification.

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Kurt Vonnegut wrote himself into Slaughterhouse Five. He appears in a military latrine, IIRC, complaining that he's going to crap his brains out. Would you call that a "Marty Sue"?

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Mary Sues are (I think) characters added in to an ongoing story who are extra-super smart, and beautiful, and just gosh darn so all-around awesome that all the main characters become starry-eyed about them, and plotlines start revolving around them, and all the main characters are talking about how wonderful they are all the time. So, yes, wish-fulfillment self-insertion.
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rivka
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Obligatory wikilink

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Would you call that a "Marty Sue"?
No, for a man it's a Marty Stu. [Wink] Anyway, a brief cameo generally doesn't qualify. By definition, Mary Sues have hugely pivotal roles in the plot.

The Ultimate Mary Sue

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Shanna
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In my circles I've always heard a male wish-fulfillment character called "Gary Stu."
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It might have to do with the fandom, I too am more familar with "Gary Stu"
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rivka
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I've heard both, but neither frequently. Most of the fandoms I read are predominated by female authors.
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Cool. Thanks! That was what I thought, but it's nice to have it confirmed. [Smile]
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o_O the drama. I'm glad I have Hatrack around to be nicer than me. [Smile]

I've appreciated everyone's comments explaining why they like (or don't like) fanfiction.

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Doctor: Hello Joe. How are you.
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