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The White Whale
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I've found that if you are whirling a corelle storage bowl in a plastic grocery bag, sling like, and the bottom of the bag breaks, sending the bowl into a concrete wall, the bowl tends not to hold up so well.
[ROFL]
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http://faculty.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/faculty/docliver/Research/cuttingboard.htm

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcuttingbd.html

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Will B
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Metal plates send the heat right through.
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But you could have lovely circular designs burned into your dinner table! Or your flesh!
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mmm... burnt flesh... I mean, I'll stick with porcelin and/or plastic thank you [Smile]

Though just on principle I'd like to own at least one metal plate, maybe a nice pewter...

also, years in scouting taught me that frisbees make both wonderful plates AND bowls... try for yourself and afterwards they double as entertainment.

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Though just on principle I'd like to own at least one metal plate, maybe a nice pewter...
I have a nice round silver platter. I suppose that counts. I wouldn't use pewter for anything I was actually intending to eat off of, isn't it made with lead? Or am I wrong?
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I'm not gonna eat my food out of a Frisbee. It's got dirt on'it!
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I am waiting for the explanation of how, just as we no longer use wooden plates because they can cause disease etc., we should give up religion because it causes war.
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King of Men
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I am waiting for the explanation of how, just as we no longer use wooden plates because they can cause disease etc., we should give up religion because it causes war.
Not to mention snarky posts in Internet forums, a far worse scourge than any mere religious warfare.


I ate off a wooden plate at a restaurant yesterday, that's what prompted the question. I wonder if you could treat them, say with a plastic or varnish, so they'd no longer be porous? Or maybe my restaurant uses serious amounts of boiling water to kill the bacteria?

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Sorry for the snark; I should have resisted.
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I own several aluminum plates that I got from an army surplus store.
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I have a plastic Hello, Kitty bowl.

I have no clear idea where I got it from or how it came to be in my possession.

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Did anyone read aspectre's links?

It's been over ten years since it was shown that wood effectively destroys bacteria, while knife scarred plastic actually provides a good environment for bacterial growth. I wouldn't use a plastic carving board for anything.

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It's got dirt on'it!
clearly someone has never been a hungry scout on a camping trip before.

dirt! pshaw!

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Abhi
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actually, in my country, metal plates are very common. most households use steel plates.

traditional "good" dishware was made out of bronze, copper, silver, gold, or stone.

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quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
Not to mention snarky posts in Internet forums, a far worse scourge than any mere religious warfare.

You reap what you sow. Someone who makes snarky--not to mention smug and degrading--posts every time somebody expresses a positive view of religion has no room to complain about this.
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I wrote a poem once about how ceramics unite humankind.
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Annie, I would love to read it.
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OK, but Warning! Old site!

I think I built it in the geocities page builder program. Ha ha ha ha ha!

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King of Men
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quote:
Originally posted by Verily the Younger:
quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
Not to mention snarky posts in Internet forums, a far worse scourge than any mere religious warfare.

You reap what you sow. Someone who makes snarky--not to mention smug and degrading--posts every time somebody expresses a positive view of religion has no room to complain about this.
Who is complaining? I was observing. Plainly, religion does lead to snarky remarks: If there was no religion, neither my snark nor katharina's would have existed.
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kmboots!=katharina
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King of Men
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Meh, both names begin with a k and belong to female theists.
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Actually, what was proved was that if properly cared for that happens...but that most people don't.


I have two different kinds, and I DO use them both properly...and I have not had food poisoning for the 3 years I have had them both.

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quote:
Originally posted by aspectre:
http://faculty.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/faculty/docliver/Research/cuttingboard.htm
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcuttingbd.html

quote:
Originally posted by Glenn Arnold:
Did anyone read aspectre's links?

It's been over ten years since it was shown that wood effectively destroys bacteria, while knife scarred plastic actually provides a good environment for bacterial growth. I wouldn't use a plastic carving board for anything.

And then later research contradicted those findings, and further later research continued to contradict it. Unfortunately, people usually know about one, not the other.

More info with links to the USDA research

You can use either, but you need to treat whichever you use with good care (as Kwea noted). Neither is clearly superior from a food safety standpoint, given proper care.

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quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
Meh, both names begin with a k and belong to female theists.

Wow, and some lucky woman wants to spend her life with you! [Roll Eyes]
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And her name doesn't begin with a k, and she isn't a theist, and she occasionally has something worth while to say. [Smile]
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too...many...jokes...
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quote:
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. . . and she occasionally has something worth while to say.

So it's true. Opposites do attract.
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I'm not gonna eat my food out of a Frisbee. It's got dirt on'it!
Extra fiber [Big Grin]
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I'm not gonna eat my food out of a Frisbee. It's got dirt on'it!
Bu...didn't you order the humus?
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*groan*
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quote:
Originally posted by ClaudiaTherese:
quote:
Originally posted by aspectre:
http://faculty.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/faculty/docliver/Research/cuttingboard.htm
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcuttingbd.html

quote:
Originally posted by Glenn Arnold:
Did anyone read aspectre's links?

It's been over ten years since it was shown that wood effectively destroys bacteria, while knife scarred plastic actually provides a good environment for bacterial growth. I wouldn't use a plastic carving board for anything.

And then later research contradicted those findings, and further later research continued to contradict it. Unfortunately, people usually know about one, not the other.

More info with links to the USDA research

You can use either, but you need to treat whichever you use with good care (as Kwea noted). Neither is clearly superior from a food safety standpoint, given proper care.

This post, CT, is a perfect example of why I love your posts. Thank you!
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!!! JNSB! I was just thinking of starting a thread over on sake asking if anyone knew where you were, great to see you!
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Yeah, it's good to see he isn't dead. [Smile]

And he's absolutely right about CT, too.

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I was wondering where you had gotten to as well.
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Hi ElJay! Thanks. I'll have to head over to Sake in the next couple of days and check out 7 months worth of posts and to see how I did on the Sake taste strip test (though I've recently discovered I have anosmia).

But on topic: I like stainless steel cups and canteens for carrying water around to drink in because after time Nalgene bottles and aluminum canteens make water taste like plastic and aluminum, respectively. And I'm afraid of microwaving my food in Tupperware because of the plasticizers that get into food, so I've gone back to different types of glass/pyrex for food that I take for lunch and want to heat up there.

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Hi rivka , hi Icky! Okay, now I'm going to get some sleep before my graveyard shift, but hi to everyone else who comes along in this thread, too!
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quote:
Originally posted by rivka:
quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
. . . and she occasionally has something worth while to say.

So it's true. Opposites do attract.
No, actually, you don't attract me at all, even though you do seem mystically compelled to respond to me on every possible occasion.
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quote:
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]No, actually, you don't attract me at all, even though you do seem mystically compelled to respond to me on every possible occasion.

Jeez what is your problem man? You're extremely disrespectful for no reason! This isnt even a controversial debate where tempers have flared. We're just talking about plates for cryin out loud!
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(Hi, JNSB! [Smile] )
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quote:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by King of Men:
Jeez what is your problem man? You're extremely disrespectful for no reason! This isnt even a controversial debate where tempers have flared. We're just talking about plates for cryin out loud!

I suggest you review the posts. I started a perfectly civil thread about wooden plates; the various ks and rs decided to snark in it, even to the point of implying that my fiancee should be getting out of my life.
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quote:
Originally posted by Abhi:
quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
]No, actually, you don't attract me at all, even though you do seem mystically compelled to respond to me on every possible occasion.

Jeez what is your problem man? You're extremely disrespectful for no reason! This isnt even a controversial debate where tempers have flared. We're just talking about plates for cryin out loud!
You sayin' plates are not serious?
Fie on you!

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quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
I suggest you review the posts. I started a perfectly civil thread about wooden plates; the various ks and rs decided to snark in it, even to the point of implying that my fiancee should be getting out of my life.

1) That certainly was not my implication. And dude, if you are going to be all up in everyone's face regarding their personal choices, you really need to develop a thicker skin about your own. You know what they say about glass houses.
2) One person snarked at you, very slightly. And she apologized. You made a mistake about who that person was. When this was pointed out to you, you got extremely snarky.
3) Escalation, which I participated in. And I will apologize for my part immediately after you stop posting anti-religious snarks in inappropriate threads.

Let me know when that happens.

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I can see we are not going to reach agreement on this matter; let me just say that I disagree about some of your statements on the degree of snark. I will post no further on the subject.
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I really am sorry that I hurt your feelings, KoM. I really was expecting this to be another religion thing - you have to admit that most of your posts have that agenda - but that doesn't excuse my being mean. Sometimes my gauge of "funny" is out of whack.

Does an apology count as saying something worthwhile?

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My remarks were directed at rivka, not you, kmb. Your comment actually was fairly funny; there wasn't really any need to apologise. Mine was intended the same.
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I didn't think it was funny. It wouldn't matter except you used my name to make the joke. Considering what you post, consistently, every other time the subject comes up and your general disregard of anyone else's feelings, there is no reason to suppose that you're just brimming with benign bonhomie this time.
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Anyone for dishes from the planet Melmac?
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No further comments.
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quote:
Originally posted by Abhi:

Jeez what is your problem man? You're extremely disrespectful for no reason! This isnt even a controversial debate where tempers have flared. We're just talking about plates for cryin out loud!

What are you, new? Have you not noticed King of Men's MO? He has no regard for other people, period.

quote:
Originally posted by King of Men:
I suggest you review the posts. I started a perfectly civil thread about wooden plates; the various ks and rs decided to snark in it, even to the point of implying that my fiancee should be getting out of my life.

Like I said, you reap what you sow. You are the last person on Hatrack who has room to complain about people getting snarky to you. Whether any of the snarks were appropriate in an innocuous thread like this one--and I'm not saying they were or were not--is beside the point. Until you can find it in yourself to stop being a jackass to everyone else all the time, I, for one, see no reason why anyone should be concerned if someone else is rude to you. You've earned it.
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