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Samprimary
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So? If someone behaves like spambuster does, ever, they don't get to pawn responsibility for it off on 'the community.'

And it is pretty much impossible to expect people to not respond. People should be allowed to respond and they shouldn't be berated for taking someone like spambuster up on his claims and accusations. There is nothing wrong with it.

(which is thankful, because no forum can be realistically expected to respond to someone like spambuster with complete silence, and anyone who advocates it is expecting the nigh-impossible)

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Let facts and manners speak for themselves, if you feel you must respond. If you cannot reply in a respectful, mannerly, and fact-based way, then kindly refrain. Don't allow yourself to be provoked. I thought Tom's approach was a healthy way to deal with spambuster's posts.
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So? If someone behaves like spambuster does, ever, they don't get to pawn responsibility for it off on 'the community.'
Not sure why you feel like that's happening. First, no one is pawning responsibility for his behavior off on the community - not sure why you feel like they have. Second, I'm a third party commentator in this situtation, so the "If someone does X, they don't get to Y" doesn't apply.

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And it is pretty much impossible to expect people to not respond. People should be allowed to respond and they shouldn't be berated for taking someone like spambuster up on his claims and accusations. There is nothing wrong with it.
I apologize that you feel berated by my drawing parallels between reactions to an invading troll and reactions between members of the community.

Too often on this board, conversation starts much like that thread did. I don't think anyone here really would jump to spambuster's defense (note that I am not), but there are many examples where someone comes into a thread with a serious topic about which they feel very strongly and are met with the same reaction.

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(which is thankful, because no forum can be realistically expected to respond to someone like spambuster with complete silence, and anyone who advocates it is expecting the nigh-impossible)
Spambuster isn't the issue. This thread was started (and contributed to by several people) under the premise that members of the hatrack community are treating each other in much the same way as that invading troll. Hostility, mockery, etc.

I honestly don't care about spambuster. But I've seen just as hostile and reactionary behavior in threads about global warming, atheism, abortion, gay marriage, Israel, etc.

In the so-called "Golden Age" of hatrack, spambuster would have been made a joke of similary (much like UniversePeople was). That's not my point. My point is that jatraqueros frequently get the same treatment nowadays, which I don't feel was the case in the past.

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Not sure why you feel like that's happening. First, no one is pawning responsibility for his behavior off on the community - not sure why you feel like they have
What? That's exactly what spambuster spent over a page and a half unambiguously doing. Every time he was asked why he was being so insulting, his response was to say, essentially, that it was 'our' doing.

that's what I'm talking about.

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Ah... see, I started skimming that thread after the first half of the first page, and abandoned it entirely shortly after. It just wasn't worth the energy.

I had assumed your comments were about this thread, where I don't feel as though anyone is doing that.

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Hey. Skimming and assumption is my realm! [Mad]
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Well, skimming and abandoning threads has started to become the norm for me lately, since most threads on serious topics devolve into the same level of hostility that the 200 years thread did.

As for assumption, I was only really going on what has been said in this thread, though I understand I opened the door to the other thread so comments made there were fair game.

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quote:
Originally posted by Achilles:
Hey. Skimming and assumption is my realm! [Mad]

*skims and assumes Achilles*
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^----- Jon Borg
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Samprimary
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We are assimilating you into this high quality collective
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quote:
Originally posted by ClaudiaTherese:
^----- Jon Borg

[Big Grin]

I don't know why I never thought of that one before. If these were the old days of registering superfluous screen names, I'd be sorely tempted right now.

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[Big Grin]
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"Let facts and manners speak for themselves, if you feel you must respond. If you cannot reply in a respectful, mannerly, and fact-based way, then kindly refrain. Don't allow yourself to be provoked."

And above all, "Don't worry, rationality isn't known to be habit forming."

[ June 28, 2009, 08:25 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]

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Wow, this thread got historical all of a sudden.
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Hmmm... if a quote belongs in this thread, how about this one:

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster."
Friedrich Nietzsche

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"P.S. god is dead lol"
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So much for civility.
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