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Blayne Bradley
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Tema...? Temari? The girl with the wind fan? I must not have seen something but all I've seen her do is have a few different wind attacks.
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Just finished When They Cry season 1 with the Mrs. I gotta say, I really don't like that method of storytelling, it's impossible to say what REALLY happened because as far as the show's concerned any of those things could have happened.

And criminey it took forever for it to go anywhere. There were maybe three episodes where I was like, wow that's pretty intense, but there were so many other episodes where it's like "Oh look, here's a story that isn't going to go anywhere and it will abruptly end."

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I spent about a week or so watching it, at least your not waiting on each episode.

The point is by the end of season 1 we know its a endless 1 month timeloop (like Endless 8) I actually drew a chart and kept track of the plot details.

Its based on visual novels so its divided between question arcs and answer arcs that explain everything.

I think about 50% of the plot you can figure out from the first season.

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quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
Tema...? Temari? The girl with the wind fan? I must not have seen something but all I've seen her do is have a few different wind attacks.

Yes, and let's compare this to what we've seen the other Naruto women do:

Tenten: Get her ass handed to her on occasion.
Sakura: Well, okay, she did beat Sasori with Chiyo's help. But as far as eugenics go, she's got nothin'.
Ino: Be a hindrance more than a help while fighting Kakuzu.
Hinata: Jump out in time to get the crap slapped out of her by Nagato.

Let's face it; ALL of Kishi's women are underdeveloped. At least Temari can summon. At least she can actually win a battle on her own now and then. Plus, Naruto and Temari both have the fact that they're children of past Kages going for them.

I'm just musing, here. I would never actually ship Naru/Tema.

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I've never seen her abilities though past the Chuunin exam does the anime go more into her detail?
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Are you asking me to spoil you? [Smile] While still a genin, Temari beats Tayuya, the sound kuniochi, by herself. And she does it using a jutsu that tears down an entire section of the forest. IMO, you'd have to be a chakra powerhouse to pull that one off. And that battle is in the manga. And, yes, we see that she has an animal summoning.
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Are you asking me to spoil you? [Smile] While still a genin, Temari beats Tayuya, the sound kuniochi, by herself. And she does it using a jutsu that tears down an entire section of the forest. IMO, you'd have to be a chakra powerhouse to pull that one off. And that battle is in the manga. And, yes, we see that she has an animal summoning.

I've seen as far as I think the battle vs Hidan and the other guy in Shipuuden and lost track of it from there, I simply forgot that she fought one of those mutant ninjas.
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Ah. Sorry if I sounded condescending in any way. I just assume everyone in the world is as obsessed with Naruto as I am. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Blayne Bradley:
I spent about a week or so watching it, at least your not waiting on each episode.

The point is by the end of season 1 we know its a endless 1 month timeloop (like Endless 8) I actually drew a chart and kept track of the plot details.

Its based on visual novels so its divided between question arcs and answer arcs that explain everything.

I think about 50% of the plot you can figure out from the first season.

It's just not worth it to me.

Besides, the next Samurai 7 dvd came in the mail, and I just finished watching it, I'm pretty happy with that series so far, and I know it has to get better.

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Then your losing out on an awesome thriller horror series. It speeds up along during season 2.

Also, all of those things in the first season DID happen its a timeloop when Rika dies she with Hanyuu goes to a different parallel world at the beginning of the month, the events just transpire elsewhere... or do they? As Keichii and Co get flashes to the events of previous arcs.

There's just something tragically awesome about a series that has a 9 year old drinking wine to get drunk to drown her sorrows.

To me I like long running series in the 50 episode range.

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Baseball episode in Champloo! With surprisingly good english.
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I reiterate that ANYTHING and EVERYTHING produced by Studio Ghibli is automatically a good movie, they might not always hold my interest through and through but damn they are good.
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[Wall Bash]

You and I have very different ideas of what is "good." In terms of entertainment, I tend to think that "good" means "entertaining," at least to some degree.

But I've never made it through a Studio Ghibli release, or, if I have I don't remember what happened. Weird? Yes. Fantastical? Sure. Good? Ehh...I'd have to beg to differ.

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quote:
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[Wall Bash]

You and I have very different ideas of what is "good." In terms of entertainment, I tend to think that "good" means "entertaining," at least to some degree.

But I've never made it through a Studio Ghibli release, or, if I have I don't remember what happened. Weird? Yes. Fantastical? Sure. Good? Ehh...I'd have to beg to differ.

I am defining good as they are objectively good movies in terms of genius and filmaking. For example Tranformers is a bad movie but entertaining, Ghibli films I consider to be Good films though some are more entertaining then others.
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I'm just saying that, in order to be classified as "good" in my eyes, a movie needs to be well-made and interesting.
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Just finished off Claymore. I was dissapointed, but I'll check it out if they keep the series going.

Samurai Champloo is watchable but pretty overrated.

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Good luck describing what "objectively good" means when it comes to art, Blayne.
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Watching Zero's Familiar a sort of Harry Potter meets.... D&D? Its pretty good, its funny and has the usual speculative Modern Urban and Fantasy crossover appeal that I've usually daydreamed about for years, ie what happens when a normal kid gets teleported into a fantasy medium magic setting? Oh and what happens when certain modern armaments end up transported with him? Awesome, thats what.

Seeing a Zero-sen fighter kick dragon ass made my day.

Gonna watch Full Metal Panic when its down downloading and will rewatch from the beginning InuYasha as I realized that the main female leads in both is voiced by the same person who did Mion/Shion in Higurashi.

Also gonna take a look at Kannagi as the idea of a Nun kicking criminal ass is too good to pass up.

Also gonna watch Boondocks (although western), its funny as hell.


Rented the Bebop movie, Blood the vampire and something or other.

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It doesn't meet D&D. It's just Harry Potter meets harem anime. D&D doesn't enter into Zero no Tsukaima/The Familiar of Zero at all.

One word, though: Horsewhip.

That's how you know the tsundere has too much tsuntsun. When she starts whipping the object of her affection with a whip.

Well, I mean, I see a lot of BDSM in Louise and Saito's future, but still...

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well the mentions of bugbears and other specifically Wizards of the Coast IPs does sorta show you where the homages are going to. They have quite a bit of blink and you'll miss it moments.

Currently I have two alltime favorite scenes so far 1) the Zero-sen fighter kicking ass and 2) when in the second season when Siesta and Valliere crawl into the same bed and mistake each other for Saito.

Les Yay Hilarity Ensues.

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Bugbears are not WotC IP.
They are a classic monster of legend. Seriously.

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So? I only saw them in the Monster Manual, its not like I wiki up every creature down the list to figure out their roots. As far as I know someone got drunk and came up with the idea.
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Now on the other hand I am increasingly impressed by the growing Machiavellian nature of Princess Henrietta. I'm actually reading 'The Prince' and whats happening isn't too far off.
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The cowboy bebop movie is ****ing awesome.

I need to finish gungrave.

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Um... Blayne?

To use the language you so love, you really should learn that this stuff is older than you think.

I mean, it's on your precious tvtropes! How could you forget something so important?!

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Um... Blayne?

To use the language you so love, you really should learn that this stuff is older than you think.

I mean, it's on your precious tvtropes! How could you forget something so important?!

Yes so? Doesn't negate what I say to be shoutouts.
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Look, it's obviously fantasy inspired, but really, show me all these D&D shoutouts. I didn't see them, and I rather liked the series.

Even if there are a few shoutouts, that's a far cry from "equal parts Harry Potter and D&D". It just isn't anything like it.

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quote:
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Look, it's obviously fantasy inspired, but really, show me all these D&D shoutouts. I didn't see them, and I rather liked the series.

Even if there are a few shoutouts, that's a far cry from "equal parts Harry Potter and D&D". It just isn't anything like it.

I said its "Harry Potter meets... D&D" the '...' was to signify I was clawing at the air looking for the Y factor you didn't really have to jump on the phrase to correct me.

In any case I remember a reference to bugbears, orcs, dragons, griffons (proper griffons), fireball, etc to me it looked like a shoutout like Final Fantasy I was shouting out to D&D.

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Now there's a Gimli reference! (Tolkien but still)
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YES! A GERMAN 88 FLAK ANTI AIRCRAFT GUN! YES!
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That's possibly the first incontrovertible D&D reference yet.
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quote:
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That's possibly the first incontrovertible D&D reference yet.

huh? No, I was just saying a German 88 showed up in the anime and used to destroy a golem, which is awesome.
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Which is clearly a D&D reference. [Wink]
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quote:
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Which is clearly a D&D reference. [Wink]

Actually if you broaden the definition to include that Polish Warsaw Uprising tabletop rpg which probably has an 88mm....
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HAUU~! OMOCHIKAERI!

The whole scene in Full Metal Panic with the whole Bonta-kun riot squad scene is just so adorable. In a manly way of course...

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hrrm, okay so I'm watching Full Metal Panic and is it just me or did Mithril commit like 3-4 separate acts of war against the Soviet Union in under like.... 2 months as a false flag operation to boot pretending to be some United Nations task force, a task force that to my understanding would need to be permitted by the UNSC and the UN Military Staff Committee, the latter hasn't met or had a single meeting since 1947 and the former... well one of them members IS the Soviet Union who most certaintly would not appreciate an armed incursion within their borders without permission in a blatant violation of their sovereignty.

Whats the use of the largest stockpile of nuclear warheads and active ICBMs if you dont use them as a deterrent to prevent this bullshit?

heck, where was the USSRs bloody SAM defence system when the VTOL aircraft and two really large transport planes outright flew in and landed at a Soviet airbase!?

Gah!? 2060's as well with the Soviet Union allegedly fully funding its R&D and military industrial complex to boot, this scenario makes LITTLE sense.

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I AM IN DESPAIR?! THE WORLD IS MAKING ME DESPAIR!?
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No, I'M in despair! overinflated fanboys who discover formerly funny memes two years late are leaving me in despair!
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Incorrect, its called Mementic Mutation. And its still funny. If you didn't want me latching onto it now then you should've made sure to get me hooked onto the anime two years ago.

For reference to those who don't understand, the anime the quote is from is "Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei" or "Goodbye, Mr Despair" its hilarious and kinda has that "triped out on drugs" look some earlier tim burtonesque cartoons had.

Basically the teacher Nomori Itshuki is depressed, the world has left him depressed. And wants to hang him and almost does it until interrupted by a yandere genki girl who quickly complicates the matter and it turns out is his student in the homeroom class he teachers.

And it turns out everyone else in his class is psychotic and crazy from depressed attention seeker at "best" to...... well yandere "one day goin' snap and murder everyone" genki girl.

Has a hilarious shoutout to Death Note its blink and you'll miss it where Yogami actually signed the teachers name into it but Didn't succeed in keeping him dead!

Hilarious.

Oh and the teacher has a stalker.


~jiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Slightely annoying that I have to pass about every 10 seconds to catch the background snark.

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Man. Tripe on drugs would be pretty horrifying.
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tripped?
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Blayne:

Here's the thing. It's two years old, we (by we I mean the anime community who keeps with the times) have heard it, then we heard it overused, and now it's tired and old.

Yes, it's a meme. But there's also such a thing as an overused gag, and the despair speech has definitely become overused.

I can think of another overused running gag, and incidentally it consists of your constant reference to tvtropes as your Bible. .

[Big Grin]

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except do a gag long enough it comes full circle and is funny again, y'know crossing the line twice.
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You're referencing the wrong concept.

And though I threw lots of snark in my last post, I was also being serious.

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You cant have your cake and eat it too.
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I'm not.

I'm just pointing out, in the language I figured you'd know best, what you keep doing.

It isn't working, obviously, as you haven't learned enough decency to ever say "oh, sorry about that." No, instead you argue even the stupidest minutia, even if it's with an 11 year old.

And the worst thing? You're usually WRONG about the minutia, too!

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"decency"!? **** off.
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How funny that it's the word decency that pisses you off most. [Big Grin]
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Not to mention anime usually shies away from the f-bomb.
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BlackBlade: That's mostly because there isn't a comparable word in Japanese. Words that have the same literal meaning don't have nearly the same connotative meaning (which is usually why "the f-bomb" is used). Indeed, anime uses Japanese cuss words all the time, with one notable exception (the one really, really dirty word in the Japanese language -- which does have an approximate equivalent in English, that is also usually avoided).
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