quote:I can move electrons around in a particular pattern in your brain and make you experience anything you choose.
No, you can't. We don't know how to do this and we're not sure if we ever will. That's just a belief you hold without confirming evidence. That your ideology says that is will be the case doesn't magically make it so or based in any sort of real world science.
Well - fair enough, I overstated the case of what we can do with current technology. But see Tom's post above.
I'm not sure what you think Tom's post says, but it doesn't support your position.
You assume that we will be able to do these things because it fits your ideology, but there is no scientific basis to support this. You're then using this assumption that we will be able to do this to prove that your ideology is correct, but we will only be able to do these things that we don't even know are possible if your ideology is correct.
Not exactly the strongest argument there and one that shows many of the same faults you are trying to cast onto others.
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quote:I'm not sure what you think Tom's post says, but it doesn't support your position.
Well, it depends. If, for example, we find a chemical indicator for the neuron that makes people experience cake -- which is unlikely, but not outside the realm of possibility -- it WOULD be the case that KoM could in fact make you experience the taste of cake whenever he felt like it.
I think the idea that the mechanism of experience can be directly manipulated is at the core of KoM's assertion, and it's certainly not a claim that's outside the realm of possibility.
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quote:You assume that we will be able to do these things because it fits your ideology, but there is no scientific basis to support this.
Wait, what? I say "We can make you taste cake whenever we feel like it, by manipulating electrons", Tom points to an experiment which indeed did precisely that, and you say it doesn't support my position? Does not compute.
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