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The White Whale
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I saw this on another site and the idea got stuck in my head: What are your 5 or 10 most favorite single episodes of any science fiction series?

I'm even willing to compile these into one list if enough people respond and seem interested.

1. Firefly - Out of Gas
2. Babylon 5 - Sleeping in the Light
3. ST:TNG - All Good Things...
4. ST:TNG - Darmok
5. Dollhouse - Epitaph One
6. Firefly - Objects in Space
7. Red Dwarf - Quarantine
8. Babylon 5 - Passing Through Gethsemane
9. ST:TNG - The Best of Both Worlds
10. Buffy - Hush

*Yeah, I know that last one isn't science fiction. But I put it in there because I'm a rebel. [Wink]

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Sean Monahan
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"Shaka, when the walls fell..."

I'd put ST:TNG - Chain of Command on my list.

"THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS"

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Hmmmm.

BSG: 33
BSG: Pegasus
B5: Severed Dreams
B5: The Coming of Shadows
B5: Z'ha'dum
ST: DS9: In the Pale Moonlight
Futurama: The Problem with Popplers
Stargate SG1: Window of Opportunity
Stargate SG1: The Lost City
The X-Files: Jose Chung's From Outer Space

I would second Firefly's Out of Gas and TNG's TBoBWs

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Lisa
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ST:TNG - The Inner Light
Buffy - Becoming (parts 1 and 2)
Buffy - Once More, With Feeling
Angel - Not Fade Away
Dollhouse - Epitaph One

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Raymond Arnold
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Hmmmmmmmmmm.......

Terminator: Samson and Delilah
Terminator: Adam Raised a Cain
Terminator: Pretty much everything else from season 2.
Firefly: War Stories
BSG: I have no idea how to narrow this down, there are a lot that are uniformly good. Pretty much anything from the first two seasons.
Dollhouse: Epitaph One

I actually didn't much care for Out of Gas. It was good, but it ultimately didn't tell me anything I either didn't already know or cared about knowing, and I felt like it was supposed to.

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Firefly: Objects in Space
BSG: Assorted episodes (Sorry, I watched it in one week so they all blend together)
Buffy: Once More, With Feeling

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I liked "The Long Night of Lando Mollari".
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Dr. Who: Blink
Buffy: Once More, With Feeling
SG Atlantis: McKay and Mrs. Miller
SG Atlantis: Sunday
Dr. Who: The Doctor Dances

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Bella Bee
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I agree with just about everything so far. So as not to repeat...

BSG - Flesh and Bone
ST:TOS - The City on the Edge of Forever
ST:DS9 - Far Beyond the Stars
ST:Voyager - The Year of Hell
X-Files - Squeeze/Tooms
Doctor Who - Human Nature/Family of Blood
Torchwood - Children of Earth (Miniseries)

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ST:TNG : Inner Light

This is my favorite episode of any show, not just scifi. Maybe that is why it was nominated for an Emmy and won a Hugo award. No other episode comes close to this one.

Dollhouse: Epitaph One

Lost: Constant

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(Technically, All Good Things... was nominated for four Emmys and won a Hugo award, not that I think thats the final word on how close episodes come to each other.)

Edit to add:
(Whoops, 33 does the being nominated for an Emmy and winning a Hugo thing as well)

[ April 30, 2010, 11:54 AM: Message edited by: Mucus ]

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AchillesHeel
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Angel: Smile Time
Firefly: Heart of Gold
BSG: Unfinished Business
DollHouse: Man on the Street (because Patton Oswalt was a very good dramatic actor that time)

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BSG Flight of the Pheonix
The first three episodes of Season 3.
Cowboy Bebop: Ballad of the Fallen Angels
Cowboy Bebop Knocking at Heaven's Door
ghost in the shell stand alone complex: Poker face (seito's flashback episode)
Buffy: Once more with feeling
First three episodes of Outlaw Star
Episodes 2 - 11 of Death Note
Episode 24 (i think) of Read or Die

Did I use enough anime for you?


And I'm totally cheating here: Serenity (and the pilot of Firefly)

[ May 01, 2010, 09:34 PM: Message edited by: umberhulk ]

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Wasn't TNG's "All Good Things..." a two-parter? I don't remember.

Regardless, "The Inner Light" blows it away.

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Ron Lambert
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What--has everyone forgotten the original Star Trek series? The reputed fan favorite was "The Trouble with Tribbles."

I definitely agree about the Doctor Who episode, "Blink." That was a classic.

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No, it was the Series Finale, meaning it was technically an extended episode, running for two hours of broadcast time. It is shown as a two parter in reruns.
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STDS9: Far Beyond the Stars
STDS9: In the Pale Moonlight
STTNG: Chain of Command
STTNG: All Good Things...
STTNG: Best of Both Worlds
B5: Comes the Inquisitor
Buffy: Hush
Firefly: I would say Serenity, but there are a lot of holes in it I don't care for. So I'll say War Stories.
BSG: Crossroads Pt 2.
STVOY: Year of Hell

So hard to pick the best B5 episodes. They don't have many singularly excellent episodes because they're all so woven together.

Man this is hard. I'd have to rewatch everything, and I'm sure I'm committing an injustice. Plus my criteria is off. I mean, I could pick what I think are the BEST episodes, or, the episodes that I personally love for whatever reasons. There'd be some overlap, but also a lot of differences.

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Well, Severed Dreams and The Coming of Shadows both won Hugos which IMHO are well deserved (beating out ST: The Visitor, Trials and Tribble-ations, and First Contact which are all no slouches either). Sleeping in the Light was nominated.

I just added Z'ha'dum because I like it (SitL is a bit too sad for me)

Edit to add: The way I originally did it would be the P5 ratings which were fairly popular at the time of the show and JMS indicated that he personally felt that ratings were reflective of his own opinions too.

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The Twilight Zone: After Hours, because Anne Francis defines beauty.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mucus:
Well, Severed Dreams and The Coming of Shadows both won Hugos which IMHO are well deserved (beating out ST: The Visitor, Trials and Tribble-ations, and First Contact which are all no slouches either). Sleeping in the Light was nominated.

I just added Z'ha'dum because I like it (SitL is a bit too sad for me)

Edit to add: The way I originally did it would be the P5 ratings which were fairly popular at the time of the show and JMS indicated that he personally felt that ratings were reflective of his own opinions too.

I had Severed Dreams and Coming of Shadows on the list at first but bumped them down to an honorable mention list. This is too hard. [Frown]
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Sadly, I'm pretty illiterate with regards to scifi television (never watched BSG, Dr. Who, only seen a few Twilight Zone episodes, etc.). But out of what I've seen, my favorites in no particular order are:

Firefly: Out of Gas
ST-TNG: The Best of Both Worlds
Lost: The Constant
Dollhouse: Vows
The Twilight Zone: The Last Flight

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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
STDS9: Far Beyond the Stars
STDS9: In the Pale Moonlight
STTNG: Chain of Command
STTNG: All Good Things...
STTNG: Best of Both Worlds
B5: Comes the Inquisitor
Buffy: Hush
Firefly: I would say Serenity, but there are a lot of holes in it I don't care for. So I'll say War Stories.
BSG: Crossroads Pt 2.
STVOY: Year of Hell

So hard to pick the best B5 episodes. They don't have many singularly excellent episodes because they're all so woven together.

Man this is hard. I'd have to rewatch everything, and I'm sure I'm committing an injustice. Plus my criteria is off. I mean, I could pick what I think are the BEST episodes, or, the episodes that I personally love for whatever reasons. There'd be some overlap, but also a lot of differences.

Year of Hell? Seriously? What a cheap ending that was.
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Lyrhawn
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Sure, but it was only ever going to have two endings: Voyager ends up irreparably damaged for the rest of the show, or the time line is changed and it never happened. ::shrug::

Either way, I thought everything that happened before it was all undone was really quite interesting, and in the same vein with the best of Star Trek's moral investigations, as well as their investigations into personal vendettas. The Krennin became to Janeway what the Borg are to Picard.

Frankly there was very little in Voyager that I found that impressive, so I might have lowered the bar a little bit for this. Most of my favorite episodes were centered around the Doctor, but I really thought this was a good one.

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Voyager definitely abused the reset button in a way that DS9 and Enterprise didn't start to approach.

It is no surprise that Ron Moore left it so quickly and based much of his BSG Bible on what Voyager did wrong.

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You know, I really like Year of Hell as an episode, but I'm always glad in the end that they didn't keep the ship messed up and everybody blind, dead or miserable.

VOY was such a guilty pleasure show for me, and I cared about the characters - it cheered me up for years. I'd have hated for it to become gloomy.
It was never even half as good as DS9, and it was never as sporadically stunningly brilliant as TNG, but for me it was a solid little show with the odd sparkler, this being one.

And now that we have BSG, which really is what VOY probably should have been, I'm extra pleased to have both so I can watch what I feel like depending on my mood.
(I don't think they could ever have done the utter darkness of BSG in the Star Trek universe without upsetting a large chunk of fans, so ST:Battlestar would never have been as good - and in the Bizarro Universe where VOY was a pale imitation of this plotline, BSG probably never even existed... *shudder*)

So I'm fine with the reset button in this case.

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Samurai Jack: The sandal episode.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bella Bee:
... and in the Bizarro Universe where VOY was a pale imitation of this plotline, BSG probably never even existed... *shudder*

True. Although I really would have liked seeing the Bizarro Universe where ST:Andromeda replaced VOY
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Doctor Who (Classic): Logopolis
Doctor Who (Modern): The Time of Angels / Flesh and Stone
Red Dwarf: Dimension Jump
Star Trek TOS: Mirror Mirror
Star Trek TNG: Yesterday's Enterprise
Torchwood: Children of Earth
Quantum Leap: Lee Harvey Oswald
Firefly: The Train Job
BlackAdder (Series 2): Beer
Battlestar Galactica: Islanded in a Sea of Stars
Lost: Final Season
Heroes: The Art of Deception

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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
Year of Hell? Seriously? What a cheap ending that was.

Well... it had a few things going for it, and after all, on that show status quo was god.

The writing for the episode was very good- particularly the evolution of characters- Seven being Tuvok's apprentice and helper, Janeway and Chakotay struggling to stay human, etc. Personally I wish they had gone through all that and managed to retain even a lingering hint of it in the show, but it wasn't ever *really* that kind of show. Nothing lasted for very long, and the character arcs were more like pulse monitors.

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quote:
Originally posted by Herblay:
Heroes: The Art of Deception

Oy
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Out of Gas is not only my favorite episode of Firefly, it's just about my favorite episode of any science fiction series.
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Achilles...I think I agree.

I guess it depends...there were a couple of fantastic moments in Babylon 5 that I liked more, but they were more climaxes of huge story arcs. I don't think they would have made too much sense stand-alone.

But this Out of Gas episode...I think it would do a pretty darn good job as a stand-alone episode. It gives enough background to get to know the characters, and really doesn't depend too much on a larger story arc. I'm actually curious now to know what someone who hasn't seen any Firefly would think of this episode...

But I haven't watched it in awhile. This is just how I remember it.

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I had dismissed Firefly on the first episode "The Train Job" when it first aired. I have since made my peace with that episode, but that first time it didn't last 10 minutes.

I finally got some buzz years later from Sakeriver (thanks, Jake), and came in on SciFi's airing of "Out of Gas". I was completely hooked. To this day I can't watch the ending without a lump in my throat, and that's saying something.

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Firefly Out of Gas is just so far ahead of everything else for me that is hard for me to start ranking others. BSG 33 is a favorite too
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Star Trek: Voyager was a guilty pleasure for me too. I guess it was a combination of likable characters and goofy-as-hell stories, not to mention how the syndicated midnight showings kept me sane during late-night study marathons in college.

By far my favorite episode of the entire series was "Real Life." No action-packed plot with crazy twists, just one of the best bits of character development you could possibly expect from a show that silly. Mock all you like, but I still get a little choked up whenever I remember the end of that episode.

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I like that episode too.
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I find it very strange that out of the Firefly episodes there are that it was Heart of Gold that was nominated for the 2004 Hugo short-film/presentation and not Out of Gas.
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quote:
Originally posted by daventor:
I find it very strange that out of the Firefly episodes there are that it was Heart of Gold that was nominated for the 2004 Hugo short-film/presentation and not Out of Gas.

The producers submit episodes for consideration, the panel doesn't review the entirety of the series. I don't know if one series is allowed to submit more than one entry of the same series, or if it is not done for other reasons, but generally industry awards depend on the creators or owners of content making submissions. Possibilities abound as to why one got the nod, and not t'other.
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quote:
Originally posted by Week-Dead Possum:
... I don't know if one series is allowed to submit more than one entry of the same series, or if it is not done for other reasons ...

They are, for the Hugo at least. For example Star Trek took all the nominations in 1968 (IIRC) and Babylon 5 had multiple nominations in at least one of its years (although it subsequently held back in order to not split votes).
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Most of my favorite episodes are already listed

Firefly = Objects in Space & Out of Gas
DS9 = The Die is cast, Pale Moonlight
B5 = War without end, Z'ha' dum
STtos = Obsession or Mirror Mirror
Voy = year of hell, killing game
TNG = Measure of man, best of both worlds
SG1= dunno the episode name but its the one where they are caught in a time loop. that episode is just fun

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That was this.
quote:
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Stargate SG1: Window of Opportunity

I was tempted to put in The X-File's Monday and TNG's Cause and Effect to start a theme.
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quote:
Originally posted by The White Whale:
1. Firefly - Out of Gas

I never did get around to watching Firefly. I've been meaning to for a long time, kept putting it off. This thread lit a fire under me to start streaming it on Netflix.

I just saw this episode tonight.

Wow. Just... wow.

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quote:
Originally posted by The White Whale:
I'm actually curious now to know what someone who hasn't seen any Firefly would think of this episode...

quote:
Originally posted by Sean Monahan:
I never did get around to watching Firefly. I've been meaning to for a long time, kept putting it off. This thread lit a fire under me to start streaming it on Netflix.

I just saw this episode tonight.

Wow. Just... wow.

Have you not seen any other episode before? If so, did you feel lost at all? Or was there enough background given for you to feel like you knew what was going on?
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My personal favorite:

Space Above and Beyond: "The Angriest Angel"

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quote:
Originally posted by The White Whale:
Have you not seen any other episode before? If so, did you feel lost at all? Or was there enough background given for you to feel like you knew what was going on?

I've been watching them in order, so I've seen the previous 7 or so. If I hadn't, I think I'd have been able to follow what was going on, but I don't think I would have been very invested in the characters.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sean Monahan:
quote:
Originally posted by The White Whale:
1. Firefly - Out of Gas

I never did get around to watching Firefly. I've been meaning to for a long time, kept putting it off. This thread lit a fire under me to start streaming it on Netflix.

I just saw this episode tonight.

Wow. Just... wow.

I love how there are still people who haven't seen Firefly. Come on friends, there's no excuse at this point.
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quote:
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I love how there are still people who haven't seen Firefly. Come on friends, there's no excuse at this point.

That's not all. I'm only in season 2 of BSG, and I haven't started Lost or the 2005 season one of Doctor Who yet.
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I just started Lost (my uncle has been hounding me for years), haven't seen a single BSG episode, and have tried Doctor Who but it didn't grab me, even after 6 episodes. Maybe I'll try again sometime.
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Sort of related: Adam Baldwin is the best Baldwin.

Does Firefly kind of remind anyone else of Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop?

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White Whale: As for Doctor Who, see if you can get ahold of the episode titled "Blink." That is reputed to be the all-time fan favorite, and it is the episode I regard as being the highest quality genuine Science Fiction. It had fascinating, quite rational (and vastly entertaining) time travel elements, and great horror/drama with the "Weeping Angels"--seemingly stone statues who will attack you if you do not watch them constantly ("Don't even blink! You blink, and you're dead!). That one episode made the whole Doctor Who series worthwhile.

I hear that this season will include a sequel, or at least a revisiting of the Weeping Stone Angels from "Blink." My basic cable does not include BBC America, but a friend of mine who does have it is going to record the two-parter for me, so I won't have to wait until they air it on the SyFy channel next year (which is part of basic cable).

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