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I was kind of hoping that there was going to be a novel that connected the Shadow and the Ender's series back like a big loop.
Starts with Ender and Bean and finishes with thier children.
Here they can tie up who the descoladores really are.
I really think that would be the best way to end the series. Instead of just adding books in the middle. Unless you want to make more money. I'd still buy the book because of my curiosity.
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Oh, yeah. I'm sure OSC just writes books to make truckloads of money
P.S. If course he does like to get paid, but he can't write a story if it doesn't interest him. I mean, I guess I could just ask you, did that bit about him just wanting more money not seem rude to you? Because it sounded rude to me, so I responded in kind. But maybe you don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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Ender: Never Going To End On a more serious note Ender:Observer/Watcher of the Universe (ok a little corny and unoriginal and has nothing to do with Bean's kiddo) Maybe, but I know so little about the plot except for what is mentioned in Speaker For the Dead and so forth, and I'm a little rusty on those. I haven't read them for a year and a half now.
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quote:Originally posted by Blanket: I was kind of hoping that there was going to be a novel that connected the Shadow and the Ender's series back like a big loop.
Starts with Ender and Bean and finishes with thier children.
Here they can tie up who the descoladores really are.
I really think that would be the best way to end the series. Instead of just adding books in the middle. Unless you want to make more money. I'd still buy the book because of my curiosity.
quote:Originally posted by Blanket: I was kind of hoping that there was going to be a novel that connected the Shadow and the Ender's series back like a big loop.
Starts with Ender and Bean and finishes with thier children.
Here they can tie up who the descoladores really are.
I really think that would be the best way to end the series.
travelling back in time; a little far fetched, no?
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the 'tude of Ender's Game is not optimistic. Ender's Game by itself wasn't all that pleasant -not metaphorically relatable - emotionally (unless you're a sicko). The end should probably be somewhat depressing (perhaps the buggers became taken over by a "bad queen")* and involve the End of the humans. Maybe Ender will even help. Full circle and sh^t.
*Please don't say it's not possible; the "Queen" could fark up her chosen successor or many other scenarios that could change their actions. Keep in mind any change in the race will alter all their actions (full disclosure in case it means i typed something retarded: I haven't read the entire series yet - if any of my logic has gone awry, it will be clear to those who know better).
I have only extrapolated what i know about the buggers from "Game" and Speaker" - anything else doesn't count in my world at this point.
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I apologize; i was to lazy to ook at the original purpose for this thread. and i'm a huge smartass. i figure you can guess which part of that is generally more emphasized.
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and i'm too lazy to spell properly. and clearly i'm too bored to not correct my own grammaticall errors on the Nets.
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i joined just to drop off my suggestion for a book title.. card often guotes himself for book or chapter titles, and my favorite quote that could be used for a title comes from peter and enders discussion at the end of the shadow series.. i hope someone reads this, even though its prolly far too late..
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Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Ender but Were Afraid to Ask
N. Durskayme
I keep opening this thread in hopes of finding actual updates on the new novel. I think Einstein said something about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.... Posts: 2596 | Registered: Jan 2006
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I have just finished both the Ender and Shadow series. I found the entire story to be fantastic and believe the Shadow series the better of the two.
I only recently discovered the work of OSC, and began reading the books in October 2006. The first thing I did after finishing Shadow of the Giant was look for a web site that might include any information on a possible new book for the series.
To be honest, I was hoping there would NOT be another book, because I fervently believe both series' end on wonderful, poetic notes. Yes, there are questions still remaining, but it is the questions that help make the story so intriguing. I can always ask myself, "What did Bean and his kids do on that ship in space for the next several months, and what went through his mind after he realized that Petra was now probably dead only after a couple weeks he was on board" and "How the hell did Peter woo Petra to the point of marriage?" and, although OSC suggested a cure would probably not be found, did Bean and his kids eventually live or pass because of Anton's Key?
There are questions that deal with the gap between enders game and speaker for the dead that I would love to know.
BUT, I believe the story lines are better with the intrigue of the unknown, the guesswork, and ultimately what "you the reader" want to believe happened.
BUT(again) now that I know there will be more books, and the projects are in motion, I am excited.
I look forward to contributing to OSC's forum "think tank" in the future.
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Actually, I think the slight variation, "Ender's Exile" is better. I prefer the way it sounds, and it fits with "Ender's Game" and "Ender's Shadow".
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I Thought about this before i heard osc was doing it and I thought Shadow of the beast would be the next title in the series but if it has to have ender in the title ENDER and the BEAST
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Being a new avid OSC fan, I'm trying to find the best source for his new books. I'm sure this is a good place, but I've found that there are spoilers everywhere here! In an Ender thread, I found something on Alvin Maker, which I haven't started, but will soon. I've read all of the Ender/Shadow books in the short time since December of 2006. I've also read 20 different books by different authors in between each of these books.
What I wanted to know, is if I could trust OSC's Fantastic Fiction page? It has three books listed for release this year. One of them is an Ender book titled A War of Gifts(which I've looked through some of this thread and haven't found this title). It is a UK site, so the release dates may differ. I'm also wondering if someone could look over all the series listed, and tell me if they are in the correct order? I've tried some other web sites, but I'd rather trust somebody who has read them.
Help please!
Edit: Ok, found out that A War of Gifts is the Christmas Ender book! My other questions stand though.
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Ok, I gave up on page 8... after i read the same titles suggested by new people for the 5th or 6th time... its bound to happen, i just dont wanna read anymore repeats.
From what ive seen so far, I really liked "Ender Adrift." After all, isn't this supposed to be a period of time when Ender and Valentine are wandering aimlessly from planet to planet, never staying very long in any one place?
Just my 2 cents... ok, well maybe 2 1/2 cents.
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I like Ender's Exile too. (If this has already been suggested I'm sorry) but what about: Ender's VoicePosts: 2 | Registered: Apr 2007
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Titlewise: Ender's Journey or Ender's Sojourn, although Ender's Exile sounds good.
My opinion on the writing of this book: It sounds great, but I would rather see the tie-in between the two existing series, as this sounds like the beginning of a third.
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I was hopping that Achilles jr. would end up being involved in a next book as a foil for ender as Peter competing with or already having power in the starways congress, and keeping Peter from getting the position or support he needs to ally the rest of the humans with the hive queen and piggies to deal with the Descoladores. With Bean and his kids showing up too of course. Well i guess that is still possible even with this book.
anyways how about these titles(haven't read all posts so sorry if I am repeating some)
The Death of Ender(ender has to in the end become andrew as ender becomes synonymous with xenocide.) The Infamous Ender Wiggen(I think I arleady saw ender the xenocide)
I also liked the title of Andrew Wiggen suggested by Szymon, although it doesn't really fit the rules.
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First at all, i'm really happy. A new book of Ender, it's amazing... problally they will release in Brazil in 2045 But allright, i will find a way to buy it.
I give a idea in the post bellow this, and i'm thinking in others.
Ender's Sorrow; Ender's Chain; Ender's Exile;
But my preffer is Ender's Land. Posts: 2 | Registered: Jun 2007
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I've been reading the Ender Series, but not completed them. I've been enjoying them. There seems to be a couple of "loose ends". Bean goes into space with his brilliant, but defective children and is never heard from again. It would seem that the advances made at Lusitania would correct their defect. Additionally, one of his children is being raised by a disciple of Achilles. Although the book goes to the end of Peter Wiggen's life, we hear nothing of this child.
I wrote the above before I was aware of this forum. Now I find that dozens have asked similar questions. I also find that such a book was begun as far back as 2005.
I hope it will be completed, while I'm still alive to read it. I'm a Sr. Citizen Sci Fi fan.
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Given the nature of the novel (Ender meet's Bean's archenemy's successor, who is actually Bean's son), plus some additional content that may or may not be included (the introduction of Jane, perhaps? Who knows) along with the circumstances under which Ender is experiencing this whole novel (post Formic War depression, I imagine. Plus it's Bean's kid, whether he winds up knowing it or not) I think an appropriate title might be...
Ender's Burden
or
Ender's Conscience
or, for a more positive spin,
Ender's Redemption
We joke about this being Ender: Teen Angst, but the truth is, considering his recent (from Ender's time dilated perspective) past, and his relative age during the novel, a somewhat angsty (or at the very least emotional) Ender may be something we see in this book.
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I was wondering if the OCD tormented people from the Planet Path were brought about from a modified version of Volescu's virus from SotG? Do you see what I'm saying? Some time after SotG and well after Peter's death, some corrupt scientists rediscover the virus, realize its implications if there really were a world of super geniuses, decide to modify the virus to include OCD in order to control the population. Wouldn't it be cool to see it all come around?
And my idea for the new Ender title is: Ender's Reign (the time that Ender has a major influence in the lives of the citizens of The Hundred Worlds)
it may not be a pure rhyme, but it works
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This was most likely mentioned, but it would be sad if Bean and Petra never found out about the missing child. Obviously it's too late for Petra, but Bean at least, since it is one of the ones he would have taken with him. That said, if he doesn't run into the child, does the woman ever find out that it isn't Achilles son, and that of all the characters introduced so far, Achilles was the closest to evil? I can't imagine Ender or his "children" would know that. Sorry for trying to lead this story. It's not my work, but I would hate to have the book end with mother and child thinking it was the progeny of Achilles. On the title, I'd say Ender's Flight is good. It's not really going to be tacked on to the end...because it's not the end. It would be, as was mentioned, a direct sequel to Ender's Game. And I'm assuming it's not late enough to be something like Ender to Speaker.
On a completely separate note, could someone PM me about following threads? I can't figure out how to get notifications of changes.
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i don't remember which book its in, but i remember that in one of the speaker books, ender said that he first met jane on the first colony planet after he wrote the hive queen and the hegamon. that means that in this book, its either past where he meats jane, or he meats jane in this book. i just thought id point that out if no one else noticed that. i think that having ender meat jane for the first time will be really interesting.
and about bean, would bean be able to last three thousand years on his star ship, so that that when faster then light travel is invented, jane will stop his ship, and then they can use the descolada to switch of anton's key ( or at least the growing part of antons key) that way not only will bean be cured, but he will be able to meat new peter and valentine. am i the only one who thinks that that would be awesome? i also always wanted to see what happened with the aliens that made the desolada. bean could help figure out a way to communicate with them!
those are just my thoughts.
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