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IrishRage
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A Question for the Christians.
If we are all gods children. Whats the big deal with Jesus?

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Nagaer
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He's just so dreamy.
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Well, Christmas is cool too.
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TomDavidson
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God does His best not to pick favorites, but you have to admit that Jesus makes the rest of us look like black sheep.
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Baa.
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IrishRage
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Personally I think he just got a good publicist and when his boy friend (Pilot) got pissed at him and killed him his publicist promoted it.
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TomDavidson
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Ah. So you would be a troll, then. I was wondering.
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IrishRage
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No.. Not a troll just Irish.
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Nick
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quote:
No.. Not a troll just Irish.
Maybe an Irish troll. [Wink] [Taunt]
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*Walks into thread wearing a "Kiss me I'm Irish" shirt. Looks around. Runs out*

Hobbes [Smile]

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This thread is not appreciated by all. You ought to know that.

Now I'm leaving.

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Ryan Hart
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*******REAL ANSWER*******

When you become a Christian you are accepted as an adopted child of God. The Bible says a "joint heir" Jesus was the son of God "begotten, not made."

However he is God....
Or his son....
Or a part of God....

Gah I confused myself again!

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"That question is less stupid, though it was asked in a profoundly stupid way."

Actually, it's my understanding that Christian Scientists believe that there is no difference between us and Jesus in ability, only in comprehension of reality. That the material world around us is an illusion, and the "miracles" Jesus performed were simply changes in perception. Sort of a "mind over matter" belief taken to the next level.

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IrishRage
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I still dont see why we should all bow down and worship some guy who according to your bible is exactly the same as us. [Hail]
This confuses me and makes me so angry. [Wall Bash]

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TomDavidson
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Ten bucks says it doesn't, really, and you're just trying to get people riled up.
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You. IrishRage. Get online. Right now.
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Well "my" Bible doesn't say Jesus is the same as I am it, it says he is also a child of God. I certainly don't think that all children are equal to each other, and clearly all of God's children aren't. Now in terms of potential I think we all are equal, but I don't worship Jesus by saying "Jesus I'm so grateful what you could've done", I thank him for what He has done. Just like you thank someone who loaned you bus fair, you thank Jesus, but He's done a lot more than loan you bus fair so thanking Him takes a bit more energy. [Smile]

Hobbes [Smile]

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Ohh, and (((((Tom))))))

[Big Grin]

[Cool] <--Tom [Big Grin]

Hobbes [Smile]

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Damander
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Every single one of us is a spirit child of Heavenly Father. However, Jesus is the only one begotten of the Father in the flesh.

We worship Jesus because he is our Savior and Redeemer. He atoned for all our sins, but we must have faith in Christ and repent in order for the atonement to go into effect in our lives.

We worship him because he did for us what we could not do ourselves. We worship him because he loved us enough to give himself up as a sacrifice for our sins.

There is so much more I could say, but hopefully this will suffice to answer your question.

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Ryan Hart
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She's Mormon. Christians disagree with that.
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dkw
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You, of course, meant to say, "non-Mormon Christians disagree with that." Or perhaps, "Not all Christians look at it exactly in that way."
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Nick
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quote:
Every single one of us is a spirit child of Heavenly Father. However, Jesus is the only one begotten of the Father in the flesh.
I agree with Damander's post except that part.
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Scott R
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dkw. If I didn't have to go the Mormon temple right now and devour another baby, I'd send you a little huggie smilie thing.
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Ryan Hart
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Nick- That would be the "that" I was obviously reffering to in my own mind.

Scott R- Mormons don't qualify as Christians.

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Rappin' Ronnie Reagan
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oh god.
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Nick
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Scott R- Mormons don't qualify as Christians.
Why not? What makes a Christian a Christian?

Sure, I believe they are misguided when it comes to the matter of the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price, but I do not believe that their belief in those writings negates their belief in Christianity.

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Ryan Hart
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Let me clarify. I am not saying that Mormons eat babies, they are not good people, that I don't like them. I am just saying that I don't think you should classify them as Christians anymore than you should classify Christians under Judaists. The reason being their views of Jesus do not line up with evangelical Christian beliefs.

It's an opinion. Something your alowed to have.

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Nick
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quote:
It's an opinion. Something your alowed to have.
That's true, but when expressing opinions, try not to have the matter-of-fact approach. [Wink] [Taunt]
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And also remember to use your and you're correctly. And spell check. That helps a lot.
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Watch it here gang - religious fights are not allowed [Smile] For purposes of the living room of your host -- anybody who believes in Jesus Christ as their Savior and follows his teachings would be a Christian. The End.
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<this post was deleted upon seeing the post above it after it was posted>

thank you!!!!!!!! [Hat] to kacard

[ October 12, 2003, 06:41 PM: Message edited by: Toretha ]

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Nick
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[The Wave]
[Hat] kacard [Hat]
[Smile]

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Oh my god, this has turned into a total mormon versus non-mormon bash. If people start dieing, I am so gunna report us, But besides that, im really enjoying this.
-The Annoying Muslim [Evil]

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mackillian
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Kristine and dkw posted exactly was I was going to post. [Big Grin]
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Oh my god, this has turned into a total mormon versus non-mormon bash. If people start dieing, I am so gunna report us, But besides that, im really enjoying this.
-The Annoying Muslim

Not really. I'm not LDS. It's not a LDS vs non-LDS, it's more like LDS and non-LDS vs anti-LDS.
[Wink]

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Nor am I LDS. And trying to start a "bash" won't really work here. We've put a lot of effort into learning to discuss religion respectfully, and we're not about to lose our cool over something this basic.
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Irish, are you really Muslim? That's so cool...
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dkw, speak for yourself [Wink] [Razz] (that was tongue in cheek, if anyone has doubts.)
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I'm reasonably sure "Irish" is not Muslim. I'm still trying to convince myself he's not Ryan Hart. *laugh*
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My Muslim test:
bism allaah irrahmaan irrahiim

Irish, what is that?

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

[ October 12, 2003, 07:28 PM: Message edited by: sarcasticmuppet ]

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. . .then somebody owes me mucho delinquient child support. Don't make get all litigious. . . [No No]

Morbo

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Irish is not Ryan, and he's not Muslim. Other than that I have no constructive advice on how to deal with him.

kacard- If I have a legit, earnest question about the whole naming thing, should I bring it up here, or ask someone privately? (has been wondering about this for a while)

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Either way, I'd love to hear what you have to say.
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Ryan, what on earth is a "Judaist"? Because if you mean someone who practices Judaism, I personally prefer to be refered to as a Jew.

Of course, if you're refering to people who practice Judy-ism, nevermindthen.

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"refering to people who practice Judy-ism"---drag queens? [Dont Know]
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Never seen the comic Judy Tenuta, hmm?
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Oh, yeah, I haven't seen her in years! "Bow down before me!" She was weird and funny.
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As a member of the Church of Judyism, I am offended by your remarks. [Razz]
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Did you know Judy-ism caused the first gay riot? It's true--well,at least partially. [Laugh] [Wall Bash] [Hail] Judy Garland
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Well, it means that when God your Father is ready t' do a smackdown on yer sorry tush, God your Brother is ready to take the licks for ya.

[ October 13, 2003, 03:16 AM: Message edited by: aspectre ]

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