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What are you calling my wife's parents?! [Smile]

I have to admit it was a pretty good lunch.

Edit: And thanks, Belle!

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My wife and I still occasionally look at the other and tap him/her on the shoulder and whisper "pssst....we're married!"; I don't know why we find it so funny, but we do.

Kwea [Kiss]

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This thread is ridiculously awesome. I hear so many stories all the time about how miserable people are after they're married, but you people give me hope for the world. [Kiss]
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*green with envy*

I made a stupid remark to a friend of mine once when he challenged me about why I hadn't settled down yet. I said "I haven't seen to many marriages that make me want to dive in." It was a bald lie. No, it was a semi-fuzzy lie. [Confused]

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I also love being married, mostly. Sometimes I wish that I were single, and child-free, so I could just pick up and go somewhere without having to make arrangements. But the moment passes and I hug somebody in the house to remind myself of how lucky I am.

Chuck (DH) is my rock. He knows all of the things that I don't know (car stuff, hooking up the television, stuff like that), and I help him spell in his important memos (Army forms don't seem to come with spellcheck, oddly). He is as stable (emotionally) as I am moody, so we balance each other. We are partners, not just lovers, and I like that best of all.

I can't stand sleeping right next to him, because of the sharing oxygen thing. He thinks I'm crazy, so I'm glad to see it validated in this thread. *grin*

I don't understand him a lot of the time, because he is a very quiet man. That makes it hard for me, because I am not shy about sharing my feelings. I am learning how to gauge him, though.

We were apart for over 6 months once, when he was stationed in Kosrae. It was hard, but the hardest part was when he came home, and I had to readjust my schedule/cooking habits/etc to having him back in the house. Plus, sharing the bed all over again was weird. Not bad, just weird. And how to act around him was an awkward thing. I wanted him to know that I was happy that he was home, but I also didn't want to overwhelm him. I also didn't want him to think I was going to cater to his every need just because he was back. Chuck has a bad habit of becoming a chauvinist if he's not reminded that it's a Brave New Millenium. *sigh* He's not a bad man, just a man who was brought up learning 'traditional' male/female roles.

Our wedding was simple, mostly because I'm not very girly about those sorts of things, and also because Chuck's mom had passed away just a month before. We got married in his mom's church, decorated (by the wedding party) with daisies and ivy. I had a beautiful princessy dress (okay, I'm a LITTLE girly [Wink] ) I bought at an outlet, that Chuck's mom had helped me pick out. My Dad sprang for a reception at the local country club that included catering and everything for a very reasonable price. We didn't have a honeymoon, and never missed having one. We went home after the Big Party and fell asleep. It was exhausting, but not nerve-wracking in any way. Of course, I am lucky to have very civil relatives (on Chuck's side as well) who just enjoyed Our Day with us.

AJ, I understand about not wanting/needing to get married, and I support your choice. Sometimes I joke that the only reason Chuck and I got married was for the Big Party. *smile* Marriage, of course, made our lives easier when it came to the military, but it's not for everyone.

I also love this thread. I love to read other people's happy stories of their weddings and marriages.

Just to make it justifiably ornery: My marriage is better than yours! [Razz] j/k

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I love this thread. I love hearing these stories.

See, when I fall in love, I just stay in love. I have to work hard at it for years to quit loving someone who has left or decided they don't love me or something. So I can totally imagine falling in love and just continuing to get deeper and deeper in love as the years go by. I think that would be so cool! I sort of boggle at how anyone could be married and be unhappy. I guess I can see it. I mean I certainly understand when people tell me about the things that make them unhappy. But I just know I will be in complete bliss for the rest of my life if I ever get married. <laughs> Maybe that's crazy and naive, but I bet I am, you watch. [Smile]

So I'm glad that it sounds like I'm not the only one.

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Dude, ak, I'm exactly the same way.

*has had a little-boy crush on ak since discovering Hatrack*

WHY are you not my age? *laugh*

Edit: by the by, ignore how creepy/inadvertantly rude that comment was, and concentrate on the clutzy-sweetness of it all. [Razz] [Blushing]

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<Has a little girl crush on Zotto>
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[Big Grin] [Blushing]
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quote:
I have never seen participants pretending to be happy, if they aren't happy for such an union I am pretty sure they would voice their reasons or they won't participate
[Frown] You'd think, huh?

There are stories of all kinds concerning weddings, and that includes temple sealings. I know a few that do exactly - there's a lot of pressure to get married, and there's the canard that any two people can be happy. Any percentages would be pure guessing on both our parts, but there are sometimes very bad reasons to do a very good thing. That includes getting married.

Edit: spelling

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I believe you've never encountered anyone in your experience. But there are things beyond your experience, and I have.

I said I wasn't LDS?

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Verbatim I posted my original post Precisely because of your "declaration on the familiy" You still don't seem to realize that there are lots of non-LDS folks here, and that we don't think exactly like you do. [Wall Bash]

Oh, and Kat [Hat]

AJ

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Ten bucks says Verbatim's not LDS, guys.
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Yeah, well 10 bucks says you *are* Tom, you're just too scared to admit it to yourself.

Embrace the church Tom. Embrace it!

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*laugh* Okay, now I agree with Tom. No one is that much of an idiot.
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If you send me ten bucks, I'll pretend to be Mormon all you want.
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I did not disagree with the people who posted that said they were happy. I'm glad they are happy. My original post said that I was just as happy as they were, while in my unmarried state and since in my relationship I appear to be just as happy and have all the perks that they are describing in this thread, it gives me even less of a reason to get married.

AJ

(and the sidtrack into my familial details which are exceedingly messy goes decently far back in hatrack history.)

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Tom, but do we get the full package? BoM reading every day, 3 hours of church on Sunday, FHE on Monday, you help people move?

Deal!

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Tom, I hope you're not implying I've got some sort of fetish.
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Edit: this was valid about 8 minutes ago: fast moving thread. [Smile]

At this point, I'd like to ressurect my Kat-respect / mild (very mild [Evil] ) worship thing.

Kat, for every post I see of yours that I think *ugh,I don't agree with that at all* I see about ten more of your posts that make me think, and often change my viewpoint.

So [Kiss] Kat. [Big Grin]

[ March 17, 2004, 12:02 PM: Message edited by: imogen ]

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*glows* Thanks Imogen. [Smile]

Edit: [Razz] Not valid anymore? *sad* Fame and worship are so fickle. I just literally used up my fifteen minutes.

[ March 17, 2004, 12:03 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]

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I'm trying to imagine what Black List could POSSIBLY have me, kat, and Anna all on it.
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Oh goody, I've made the pinacle of success. I've been blacklisted!
[ROFL]
I couldn't ask for better company!

[Evil Laugh] Tom and kat I'll join you in Hell [Evil Laugh]

AJ

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Verbatim I've had premarital sex for over four years and I have neither a broken heart nor STDs.

Rethink your paradigm.

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What? I'm not on the list? And here I was hoping OSC-Fan remembered me.
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I'll be even more specific:

Not only do ten bucks say Verbatim isn't a Mormon writer, but five bucks says he's an unmarried man and ANOTHER five bucks says he's OSC-fan. [Smile]

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Ooh! There's a blacklist?? Cool. I wanna see.

Post it. No fair to keep secrets! [No No]

Anyway, even though I prefer being married to having a non-legalized (but still valid, IMO) union, I have to object to Verbatim's tone. I understand that you think you are coming from a religious standpoint (or you are trying to make the appearance of coming from a religious standpoint, or something, I'm not making much sense here), but I inferred from your post that all non-married sex results in STDs. Is it so unlikely that premarital sex can be a faithful union? Plenty of married partners get STDs from extramarital sex, and plenty of non-married partners are completely faithful.

You are being mean for no reason, and I object.

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This has actually made me rethink my prejudices. I believed much too easily that Verbatim was a Mormon girl who got married right out of high school and is just sure that all non-members are two seconds from killing themselves out of despair.

Tom: Yeah, looks like OSC-fan. Maybe OSC-fan can be the new Ced.

[ March 17, 2004, 12:07 PM: Message edited by: katharina ]

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jexx you rock

So does Amka who started this thread for that matter!

AJ

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Whereas, oddly, I've never met a Mormon that stupid and never believed for a second that Verbatim was one. [Smile]
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Once again I'm going to rain on your parade! But you are wrong. Marriage is bad!

Sorry, another crappy day at my house and all you happy people make me sick. or at least jealous.

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I can think of precisely one recently-departed member who might have kat, AJ, and Tom on a "blacklist."

Posting style is pretty similar, too . . . [Roll Eyes]

[Edit: or yeah, what Tom said]

[ March 17, 2004, 12:10 PM: Message edited by: rivka ]

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Ok Ok, I'm going to hate myself for saying this, but I think it's time to leave verbatim alone and get back to the original point of this thread.

People were enjoying it, after all.

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quote:

Tom, I received a black list from some member on this site and, surprise, surprise, all three of you are included in it.

Le huh?
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Edit - and again, I'm waaay too late.
[Grumble]

AJ, me too. Except my time frame is almost 7 years.

[Smile]

Looking back, I wouldn't encourage teenagers to take the same steps as I did at the same age. But I think my approach was healthy. One relationship lasted 3 years and was fantastic for that point in my life.

The other (and my latest) has lasted almost 3 1/2 years, and I feel quite confident in saying that this relationship is it. Check on us in 40 years time, and we'll still be together. [Smile]

I understand pre-marital sex isn't for everyone. But in my case, I have no problems with it.

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Speaking of marriage, does anyone have any ideas on how to do any sort of long distance wedding shower? I am the maid of honor and can only make it to the wedding location three days before the wedding, which puts a distinct glitch in things.

AJ

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just to let everyone know, I thought it an act of prudence to save this thread to my hard drive in its original state.

AJ

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Ooooh. I'm so curious if Verbatim was serious.
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[Blushing]

I think you rock, too, AJ.

(edited to add that AJ rocks extra for saving the thread on her hard-drive. You are a smart cookie!)

As far as long-distance wedding showers go, I'll have to think up some ideas for you. I have participated in many on-line baby showers, but they were all for on-line communities, and not IRL people. Are the wedding shower participants on-line sorts of people? You could do a 'virtual shower'...webcams and such...

That's all I have. Sigh. Sorry.

And also: Yay! This thread is fun!

PPS: beatnix, I'm sorry life sucks right now [Frown] It will get better, I promise.

edited to add: Verbatim that's just silly. You are a silly person. If you were sincere, you would stop pussy-footing around and just post the darned email/IM/whatever instead of being all cryptic and such. Besides, we have a LOT of newcomers on this board recently, and most of the genuine ones have been welcomed and 'you rock'd.

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I don't want to derail the thread, but did you get this warning in an email or in chat or what?
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AJ - Do you have to organise the wedding shower, or is it just sending a gift?

I guess a gift you can do easily... various online services will deliver great presents amd gift hampers (I got two from my Mum for my 21st [Smile] )

But given you are the maid of honour... Hmm. Can you delegate?
Can you have a very late wedding shower? Combine it with a hen's night - have a nice afternoon, pamper youselves, then go out for cocktails somewhere glamourous - it could be fun.

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That's a hard one, AJ. Perhaps you could conflate the shower with a bachelorette's party?
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<sorry for derailment>

So no one is allowed to post unless they agree with Tom, BannaOJ and me? All three of us? *highly amused*

Poor, poor newbies.

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I am a little confused. Why would someone fake, "the best Mormon in the world?" if they weren't LDS? On the other hand, I do agree with Tom that there are not too many LDS members of the "ultra-orthodox" that would even go as far as Verbatim does in projecting a "us" better than "them" stereotype. Those that do would not even BE here.

Its making my head spin.

As for marriage. It has its good days, it has its bad days; just like any other human interaction.

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How about if we disagree with all three? Can we post then?
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I need to make a point of saying something about the "three" that were mentioned.

They have offended me too, but only because they are the ones least likely to tolerate or enforce stupidity. I have also offended them. Get to know them and you'll realize they are all pretty decent human beings.

If you STAY on their bad sides, I would re-evaluate the style of your posting. (Not necessarily your opinions.)

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I'm on the grey list.

It's especially evident now because I desperately need a haircut.

Oh, and, yep, being married is good.

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Wow. So somebody on Hatrack is able to psychically divine the E-mail addresses of anonymous posters. [Smile]

Anyway, let's get back to the topic and ignore the troll, 'k? *grin*

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I made a new post so we could stop derailing Amka's thread.
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Back to partnership, and how much we enjoy it! Woohoo!
[Party]

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Yeah trying to agree with all three of us on any given topic could make your head pop like a squished grape!

AJ

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