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On May 29th, 2004 at 5 p.m., I will be baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Hell didn't just freeze over. It turned upside down and emptied out, and now we have to start over putting everyone back in.
Sheesh!
Edit: Um...congrats. Sorry. I should've expressed happiness for you finding a spiritual direction and all that. I have the utmost admiration for the LDS in general and while I can't imagine ever joining their particular denomination (for reasons most people here can certainly guess), I do think it's a fine place to find God and fellowship.
So, sorry I was so shocked at the outset, but really, I'm happy for you.
Where are you going to go on your mission trip? You owe one right from the start, don't you?
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Aw, Jamie, you are no good at keeping a secret.
Congratulations on finding your Way!
*hugs using protective gear and having gotten my rabies vaccination in preparation for such a perilous adventure*
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I'm starting to suspect that there's either a conspiracy to baptize all jatraqueros or a conspiracy to make everyone believe that all jatraqueros are getting baptized.
Or maybe they're all just telling the truth.
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Out of interest, dude, why? I thought you took issue with the wackiness of the Catholic Church -- are you really ready to believe the far less mainstream wackiness of the LDS church?
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quote:I'm starting to suspect that there's either a conspiracy to baptize all jatraqueros or a conspiracy to make everyone believe that all jatraqueros are getting baptized.
I'm getting slightly concerned. If you hear of Australian LDS conversions rising in the near future then you know it's TRUE!
Though I do think Tony and I are pretty safe bets not to go.
On a more serious note - Congratulations Mack. I hope this move brings you happiness and you find whatever it is that you are seeking. All the very best.
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Actually, Lalo, first Jeff, then Hobbes, then Taalcon (actually, not sure about the order), now Jamie. There is definately something in the wenchcon water.
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Don't worry, mack! Hell is still heating up. The church officially kicked me out in April. I have it in writing and everything - my name is stricken from the list and my baptism is revoked.
My pastor laughed, too, and they did an affirmation of baptism during services for Easter Vigil, so it's all good.
Congratulations. May you find the peace and joy you have been seeking. (((mack)))
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This whole trend [and let's not forget that ak was one of the pioneers of the thing] has given me pause. Clearly I've been going about this all wrong. Instead of trying to induce Mormons to be more cool, I should focus on getting cool people to become Mormons.
All the best to all four of you -- but esp. to mack. Remember: I only tease those I love .
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No, no, rivka, I wasn't. I was merely being unapologetically agnostic. Being EVANGELICALLY agnostic is something altogether different, I suspect. Posts: 37449 | Registered: May 1999
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Jamie, this is great! Congratulations! And belated congratulations to Dave too! I just now realized that's what you were talking about in your thread about how cold baptismal fonts are.
Welcome to the church! I'm so happy for both of you!
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mackillian: I've had zero interest in religion for two years thought I always would. Assumed so--empty, you know? Anyway, Katie sent me some links, so I went and read them, and kept reading, and stuff was sticking...which was Highly Disconcerting...
Stuff about god's purpose, god's love... things I've "known" and been told over and over by my own religion and others, and always rejected.
JNSB: why the LDS Church in particular?
mackillian: 'cause...I've been through all this crap and god must not care and must be a hateful SOB to let it continue but this time I actually believed it o_O shocked the hell out of me, so to speak. I read the whole site, so then I figured well, the book of mormon has always been an impenetrable brick to me so why not to try to read it, have it be a brick, and then this weird stuff is done with. so I go pull the BoM off the theology book shelves, start reading....it wasn't a brick. o_O so I hid it.
JonnyNotSoBravo: dude, that's just the BoM, baby! kill dXm: where? mackillian: underneath the bookcase.
mackillian: then I'm totally tweaked out...spend two days tweaked. talking to dave and katie and nathan, reading OTHER stuff, finally decide, okay, well, since churches that mean nothing feel empty, i'll just go to church. I talk to the missionaries, go to church...and it isn't empty. o_O
NickMayo2: Discussions? mackillian: and I realize (yeah...except I'm teaching half of it to them because I know so much theology) NickMayo2: Cool. :-)
mackillian: the more I struggled against it, the more disconcerted I got. I mean, it's like you spend your whole life watching a religious train going by and you even MOON that train, then your brain decides to hop on and the rest of you is like "WTF?!?!"
NickMayo2: *gets hilarious picture*
mackillian: but then you're all whacked out, because you're in two places and the more you try to pull off the train, the worse it gets. so then you get on the train and stuff calms around you. and dust settles in your mind.
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quote: I'm starting to suspect that there's either a conspiracy to baptize all jatraqueros or a conspiracy to make everyone believe that all jatraqueros are getting baptized.
JonBoy, this is one jatraquera that you will never have to worry about being baptized.
Congradulations on finding a direction, Mackillian. May you walk steadfastly down this path of your own choosing.
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Ryuko, could you please explain to me how it's possible to believe in God and be agnostic at the same time?
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The basic thing about agnostics is that they believe that you can never know. Therefore, even though I believe in God, I appreciate the fact that I really can't be sure, or I can't be sure at this point. Also, I don't think that anyone has the right to assume what God's will here on Earth is, and that the Bible can't necessarily be taken as written in stone. That last bit's just me, though.
Also, I can identify as Lutheran/Agnostic because I go to a Lutheran Church and appreciate the community, even if I don't share all of their beliefs. Fluid is religion, yes. My God I'm tired.
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"mackillian: the more I struggled against it, the more disconcerted I got. I mean, it's like you spend your whole life watching a religious train going by and you even MOON that train, then your brain decides to hop on and the rest of you is like "WTF?!?!" "
What a perfect description, Mack.
Congratulations. I hope you can find peace.
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