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Does this mean I don't have to eat lunch in the debate room anymore?
Thinking about it, No. This means I GET to eat lunch in the debate room. Yay!
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Dagnabbit, I can't remember my password. And the send me my password function doesn't seem to be available on that. *hands on hips* I changed my password around the time of the appearance of the Agent Katharinas, and I don't have to log out anymore. Hmm...
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Wow! I'm gone to Australia for two weeks and when I come back the most unexpected things have happened at hatrack. When Yozhik and Anne Kate converted, I could see hints of it in their posts for a couple months before they announced it but Jamie you caught me totally by suprise.
Welcome. May you find joy and happines and may we all truly become the "Latter Day Saints" we have promised to be.
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I feel beholden to explain the Skittles. During the fifth discussion, the missionaries talk about tithing, which is 10% of all increase - the interpretation of that being between you and the Lord. There are lots of scriptures about the "windows of heaven opening and pouring out a blessing" when you pay tithing, which is true. To illustrate this, you take a big bag of skittles or M&Ms or whatever, and place 10 in the person's hand. "Okay, now pay tithing." They give back one, and (theoretically), in one smooth movement, the missionary pours out the bag into their hand. It's great - vivid, and you get candy. Best done at a table. To avoid the candy all over the floor phenomomon. Unless the vacuum cleaner is lonely and wants to work to distract itself because the toaster left for college.
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Man, I got gypped. I didn't get any candy at all! Those missionaries should hand out comment-cards...
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Jamie's missionaries had never heard of it either, which is why I'm blamed because I had to call them to tell them about it. I don't think Dave got candy either. And I have to admit we didn't always do it - it depended on whether we had cash for a big bag of candy that week or not. Usually that was No. Or we forgot. Okay, we usually forgot until it was too late to prepare.
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Actually, that might not be a bad way to do it, and it would even be a better metaphor:
Since tithing rarely reaps a spiritual reward in the same form as the tithe itself -- since it doesn't return Skittles for Skittles -- you might want to let someone give you a Skittle and then pour out peanut butter M&Ms, to demonstrate the difference.
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I've never heard of the candy thingy. It wouldn't work too well in some of the Filipino homes though. They'd just fall through the floor slats into the murky, germ infested water below. :-/
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Olivet: I know. I love it. Sometimes, though, the blessings are in the exact same form. Sometimes it is everything working out financially when it didn't seem possible before. I like the idea of a mix - hand back a skittle, get a combination of skittles, M&Ms, and Sour Patch Kids.
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Tom, I said that to mack last night when she was telling me about the skittles. I said it sounded like hollywood karma where you give a begger a dollar and win the lottery.
Why are we helping?
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OOOOOoooo, that would work. And that way the broke missionaries only need to buy one bag of candy.
*thinks* There's the one where you make a tower out of cups to explain what Christ's church rests on and what happens when you take away revelation. I can't remember what exactly all the cups are, though. Anyone?
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The early church leaders. Once they were gone, the church toppled.
I never liked that one.
I did use the hand in the glove to represent the body and the spirit. That one seemed fairly accurate.
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Though the missionaries did bring me some of this fruit beverage, which I was supposed to try out as a replacement for iced tea. I never got to try it, though. My spouse drank it all after mixing it with vodka.
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I got no candy! Waaah! But the relief society gave me a basket of Mormon fruit. Man was that delicious fruit. I think they must have grown it on their own fruit trees and waited to pick it until it was actually ripe or something. It sure was incredibly delicious compared to grocery store fruit!
Also I remember people telling about all the manual labor they did for investigators when they were on their missions. I had all kinds of chores lined up for the missionaries to do for me but they never offered. I thought I should get some free slave labor out of the situation, but hey, it never materialized! What's up with that?
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I gave away plenty of slave labor on my mission to people who never converted. Life is simply not fair. (Which I have to admit, has been a dang good things).
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Rabbit: Word. For us it was the less active members. They always seemed to have plenty for us to do.
Though I remember when we got the entire elders quorum to come clear our back lot cause the mesquitos were so bad. So I did get some manual labor as a missionary!!
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My first area, the elders lived in the very far corner from the main population of their area, which was right next to our area. So, going home for lunch was out, because of the miles on the car (missionaries can only use so many miles per month. It's not many. Like, 20 a day.)
So, they got permission to use our apartment to make lunch if we were out. That was fine, and in return, they cleaned our apartment. Just the living room/kitchen, of course, but still! Once a week, the elders cleaned the house for us!
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When I got to college and took a missionary preparation class at the Institute of Religion, I was shocked. I mean, those six discussions cover the gospel much better than the 15 years of primary and sunday school I had attended weekly since toddlerhood.
But I don't know about the Skittles. I guess Merrill J. Bateman, the penultimate president of BYU, was an executive at M&M/Mars. So that could explain the new "doctrine." (quote marks and winkeys inserted per kat's comment)
P.S. I saw the cup thing a while back. There was 12 cups at the bottom which was the apostles. Then four which was the principles and ordinances. One for the prophet. I may be missing a six level which was something... the other offices of the church? Maybe it was temples. Or the offices of the priesthood.
quote:But I don't know about the Skittles. I guess Merrill J. Bateman, the penultimate president of BYU, was an executive at M&M/Mars. So that could explain the new doctrine.
Pooka, I can never tell if you're joking or not.
Just in case you're not, it's not doctrine. It's an object lesson some missionary dreamed up.
The cup thing y'all are describing is definitely different from the one we did. We didn't even use cups - we made a jigsaw puzzle out of it.
I need a digital camera.
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