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(Heh heh, this is half serious half in good fun so don't eat me)
Feeling let down or ignored by your country?
Tired of living on the right side of the tracks?
Tired of the fun being taken out of fundamentalism?
Don't forget your friendly neighbours to the North! It's just like the USA, without the grimy bits. There's plenty of room and the doors are always open. Posts: 8473 | Registered: Apr 2003
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I would think they'd have pretty strict immigration laws. Does anyone know the rules about moving to Canada?
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Well my understanding of it is that you have to have something to recommend you, i.e. a way to support yourself etc etc etc. These points mount up.
But I don't think it'd be hard for an American to get in.
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You know, if my wife weren't someone who desperately needs a lot of heat and sunlight, I'd be up for moving to Canada. It seems like a pretty great country. I have thought about looking for a job in Austrailia before, but I never did hear back from the Austrailian consulting companies I contacted a few years back. Maybe I should try again (note--this isn't because of Kerry's losing the election; I just enjoy mixing it up every now and then, and it's about time for a move).
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I'd probably have a free ride into Canada if I wanted one, considering that Juliette is a Canadian citizen.
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Going by my friend who recently emigrated from the UK to Canada, about 18-24 months (that's for the entire process).
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Or Australia, Australia's good too, although I know nothing about it other than Kangaroos and desert. Posts: 8473 | Registered: Apr 2003
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Actually, in all seriousness, if Bernard and I moved after we got married, it would probably be New Zealand. That child and his LotR obsession...
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You know, I've never been called a Shatner-stealing-Mexico-toucher before, but I kind of wish I had.
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quote: Canada? Why should we leave America to visit America Junior?
I don't mind the name American Junior, since children are usually more open-minded than their parents.
Ludosti, my brother lives in Vancouver, and it's a really beautiful city. You probably couldn't pick a better Canadian city, if you were really going to move. The climate is certainly a lot nicer than here in Edmonton.
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I'd like to live in Vancouver, too. My problem is that I don't have any really useful skills, so Canada probably wouldn't let me in. Posts: 4569 | Registered: Dec 2003
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Ironically, I already live in Canada and am planning to move to somewhere even further from America. Posts: 10886 | Registered: Feb 2000
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New Zeland doesn't sound like a bad choice at all. Actually, a friend of mine who was a gerontologist was planning to move to New Zeland because he was so frustrated with the American medical system, but he ended up getting out of medicine instead (went back to school, and is now studying bioinfomedics, for those who are interested).
Any idea how heavily used Lotus Notes and Domion are down there?
One thing I'd really like about living in that area would be my proximity to SE Asia. That alone would be enough to make me want to move there.
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I don't see why people think leaving America because you're upset at one election is a thing to encourage. (not talking to you Sara, obviously you have more than one reason)
If you don't like things, why not stay and try to change them? During eight years of Clinton I never spoke once about leaving my country. I love my country, and even if one election goes a way I'm not happy with, I wouldn't leave it.
If many people who opposed the conservatives this time leave - then aren't you making it even more likely that they will remain in power?
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Yeah, but there isn't a cleaner, brighter, happier conservative country within easy walking distance of America
And Sara, if you do wind up in Southern Ontario I'll happily stop by with pie. Or ring the doorbell and leave pie on your doorstep. I cannot, however, be held responsible if a slice of pie is missing when you come for it.
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Not opposed to your website, your dime, your time do what you will with it. If someone wants the information because they seriously consider emigrating, then it will indeed be helpful and you'll be providing a service. That's cool.
I'm opposed to the thinking that you leave when things don't go your way.
It would take a lot more than one election, or even the fears that the country was headed idealogically in a direction opposite me for me to abandon my home. I'd dig in and fight.
Even if there were a nation next door that fit more with my ideals - it's still not my home. I wouldn't uproot my family and move them, I'd stay where I was and fight to make my country better. I'd get involved in local elections and try to make a difference in my immediate area, then work to help spread that difference statewide and nationwide.
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Yes, part of my value base includes the belief that one doesn't roll over and give up - one fights for what one believes in.
Despite the fact that abortion, for example, is legal and has been for years, I am not one of those Christians that says "Well, it'll never change let's focus on something else." I believe it's murder, I will continue to fight against it in the best way I know how, with my vote, and with everything within my power in accordance with the law and consistent with my values. I won't roll over and admit defeat just because it's an uphill battle to get Roe vs. Wade overturned.
I see this the same way - when Clinton was in power I didn't roll over and say "woe is me, where can I go where I'll be more understood?" I fought for what I believed in.
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People who emigrated to America had their own reaons, and I can only judge each one individually. I know people who came here because they wanted opportunities that didn't exist where they lived, and they wanted to be able to support their children. I can respect that.
I also know many, like my friend Dr. Leon, who came to America, took advantage of its opportunities, got educated, worked, and then returned to Honduras to make a difference in his own homeland. I understand that commitment to one's home - and I respect that too.
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Whose opinion? I'll offer mine, anyway. I think the general feeling is that if you're coming to Canada, then you're absolutely welcome, no matter who you are.
(People-wise, immigration might be a different matter.)
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One of my ancestors came over from France, to fight in the Civil War. I don't know if it was just because he believed in the cause, but he most certanly didn't *have* to become a spy and courier for the Union. No one is generally coerced into spying and normally there is definitely motivation beyond personal gain for someone to take those kinds of risks. And he paid for it dearly, got thrown in one of the nasty prisions in one of the Carolinas.
As far as my other immgrants ancestors to the U.S. most of them were seeking to escape hunger and poverty, though one group was Mennonite and did endure some religious persecution in their home country of Switzerland. People come today for many of the same economic reasons though I would guess less frequently for the religious reasons, especially now that the cold war is over. Either way they frequently can and do send money and help their relatives back in their home country, whether they stay in the US themselves or not.
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You don't have to renounce your citizenship to the States if you move to Canada.
Duel citizenship is somewhat common
I don't know what CT's particulars are, but I'd be rather suprised if she had to give up her citizenship to the US
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