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Hello everybody ! Sorry, But today I'm very Busy ! It's 10 o'clock here so the time difference is around 6 hours. And I haven't an Internet Connection in my home. So I use my work connection. Now I use french for them whom like that. (And I spend less time !)
Merci pour le compliment au sujet de mon anglais. Au sujet de la traduction, Anna et Corwin ont raison tous les deux : Il n'y a pas de meilleur traduction. L'important, c'est de faire passer l'idée avec le plus de nuances possibles. (I must be careful of my words too complicate. Sorry if you have any difficulties.)
J'essaierai de vous corriger plus tard, car j'ai beaucoup de travail aujourd'hui.
Rapidement : Oui j'aime beaucoup les livres de Moorcock (spécialement Corum).
Hier, j'ai assisté à un concerto à l'église de Levallois : le Messie de Haendel. C'était grandiose ! Très fort.
Je vous laisse J'éspère revenir sur le forum ce week-end.
See you next week
P.S. : For difficult words, I cheat : i use a dictionnary
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C'est vrai que ça a dû être magnifique... Dans ma chorale on chante le Halleluia du Messie de Haendel, et même si c'est une pièce très connue, elle est grandiose, ça me donne des frissons à chaque fois Posts: 3526 | Registered: Oct 2001
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Yes, I think Halleluia is very amazing ! But another Choral part (before) is very strong. It's a multi voice part but I don't know his name.
I don't understand what you want to say Frisco.
Just a point about accord in french and verb "avoir". All Corwin said is right. And his advice about not to accord is good to begin or to be confirmed in french. For the person who want to be very fluent, i'll try to explain. Warning, lock your car belt.
first, you must cut a sentence into 3 part : a subject, a verb and part named "complément"
secondly, the complément can be cut into different parts. To stay simple, i explain you with an exemple.
"Je donne une boite à Robert." So, "Je" is the Subject, "donne" is the verb, and the complément is "une boite à Robert". This last part can be cut into Indirect Object Complement (IOC): "à Robert" and Direct Object Complement (DOC): "Une boite". We say Indirect because of using the word "à" which link the complement with the rest of the sentence.
Third : When the DOC is Before the Verb (because of Subjonctif form for exemple, or using "Pronom" like le or la), and the verb has the form : avoir + verb, we must accord the verb with the DOC.
Everybody are sleeping... (joke )
So an example to finish and to ilustrate my talk.
"J'ai donné une boite à Robert. Il l'a prise"
So first sentence, verb is used with "avoir". DOC is after verb : no accord. Second sentence, "l'" replace "une boite" (feminine word) and is the DOC. It is placed before the verb : accord ("prise" is writen and not pris.)
I hope i was clear. It's lunch time ! j'ai faim !!!
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Psst ,Choobak... "want to say" = "mean". J'espère que tu as bien mangé... Je n'avais pas beaucoup de temps donc j'ai dû me contenter d'un sandwich. Pour me consoler, j'ai pris un panini au chèvre, mon préféré ! Mais c'est un peu léger pour tenir jusqu'à 17h40.
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Ah, but reading it is so much easier. It doesn't make my brain as tired.
I've had five years of french and sadly I was very overwhelmed as soon as someone spoke to me. I translated wonderfully between a french guy and dutch girl on the train, but when he gave up on her and turned to speak to me, I completely lost any comprehension.
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This is just going to make me smile all day, Choobak. I love it when others are trying so hard to learn our strange way of talking in America.
Sorry ! The exact verb is fasten. (I don't look at my dictionnary for each word... But may i do )
Bonjour, Tammy !
Christy, to increase my English comprehension, I had to watch "Friends" in English without subtitle. So, for french, try to watch some french movies (we have good movies ! I can help you to choose) Another point is vocabulary... And his practice. Learning and practicing, Learning and practicing, Learning and practicing, Learning and practicing...
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I think most Americans would say "buckle your seat belt," though I know some people would call it a safety belt. You might hear "fasten your safety belt," but only from a robot voice at an amusement park.
Qu'est-ce qu'on l'appelle en français?
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It would be "comment on l'appelle" On appelle ça une ceinture de sécurité, et on dit "attache ta ceinture". Thank you for telling us about the use of "fasten your seatbelt", I was sure it was the correct form because I heard it in Disneyland Paris
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Welcome, Choobak! It's great to have you here.
I have my French 1 final on Monday, so look for a thread begging for help. You too, Anna. My goal is to be able to read, understand, and discuss French Vogue in 2 years.
My professor is teaching us to have a Paris accent, which is fine with me. Someday, I want to spend a year in Paris, shopping, visiting churches, and going to the opera.
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That's great, Mrs M. . If you want to be fluent in a language and understand it easily, I recommand that you use your free time to work it : read book in French (first books you already read in English, then progressively books you never read) and watch French movies in original version ! That's my way to keep my understanding of English at a correct level Posts: 3526 | Registered: Oct 2001
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But, Choobak, Paris is where the boutiques and showrooms are.
I am hoping that Andrew (my husband) gets some kind of grant or fellowship to work in France at some point in the future. I would love to see the entire country and the rest of Europe, as well.
Anna, I just watched Chocolat in French. I had the English subtitles on, so my comprehension was 100%. Reading is hard, because I hate not understanding what I read, so I would have to stop constantly and look up anything I did not understand. I am actually a decent speaker, but I have a tendency to switch to Spanish mid-sentence. Luckily, my professor speaks Spanish and finds my habit amusing.
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I just had my last college French class ever and I'm quite triste.
On a lighter note, however, I'm currently listening to Massilia Sound System's "Tout le monde ment," which is the cleverest song ever written.
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Poor Annie. If you want to listen more french, I can give you some french musical band :
If you like Rock : - Noir désir (very strong and powerful) - Sincemilia - Superbus
and the old french rock band : - Telephone - Trust
For a calmer spirit but beautiful time : - Daniel Balavoine - Michel Berger - Michel Polnaref
And if you prefer Rap : - IAM - NTM - MC Solar (The poetest guy in France for me)
And the New Wave of singer : - Bénabar (The second poetest guy) - San Sévérino
Good listening !
About Movies, I recommand : - All Luc Besson Movies (Nikita, Leon, Subway,... Le grand Bleu) - The Jean-Pierre Jeunet's movies (Delicatessen, Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Un long dimanche de Fillançailles - Mensonge et Trahison et plus si affinité - Les Choristes -...
This was just a very little list. I forget many movies.
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Bienvenue. Je parle nur ein bissien deutsch. Er, wait. Ich spreche pas le francais. Um, wait a sec. Eh.
I give up. Welcome. I speak only a very little French despite taking it for six years in Canada. You know, that whole bilingual country thing. And then I studied German in university. So I can butcher two languages in addition to my native tongue!
At any rate, it's interesting reading a thread and being reminded of all those words that at one time made some amount of sense to me. Posts: 8355 | Registered: Apr 2003
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J'assisterais à un classe de français dedans que nous regardions beaucoup des films français, mais tout les films serais sur le sujet de l'occupation. Est-ce que il y a beaucoup des films comme ça? Ou peut-être le professeur a aimé les films de l'occupation. Posts: 4816 | Registered: Apr 2003
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I think that movies is 5% of french movies... Your prof is "Has been", "complétement à la rue", "dépassé", from another stone age. Ask him to watch "Nikita" or "Leon", or "le Professionnel".
If he he think it's too violent, ask him "Le goût des autres" or a comic movies (we have a lot of it - not always very good)
And when i write 5%, I wonder if it's less...
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