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Gecko
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Zii or Zed?
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Zee
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In Chinese, tsuh
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quote:
Originally posted by Tatiana:
Zee

Yep.
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Probably depends on which side of the pond you call home.
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And which pond. Canadians and Australians (among others) say "zed" too.
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Zee for mee!
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Zederoni! [Razz]
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Lake Superior, of course. What did you think I meant

Anyway, going to catch some zeds.

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That accounts for the Canadians. Not so much the Aussies. But what could?
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I suspect that 'zed' is to avoid confusion with 'C' (see), in conversation the zee/see (z/c) can be mixed up. Though in the USA, if there was a possibility of miscommunication, the most common phonetic spoken alphabets for 'Z' are -

Zero (Telecom, Western Union)
Zulu (NATO)
Zebra (Police, Telecom B,)
Zed (British Common)
Zurich (British A)

Still, if I am simply designating the letter 'Z' in normal conversation, I would most likely say 'Zee'.

I was educated in the north central states of the USA, and have always heard the 'zee' designation used around here.

For what it's worth.

Steve/BlueWizard

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Zulu is also used in the spoken alphabet used by ham radio operators. (Google tells me that's because we use the NATO phonetic alphabet.)

-- Kilo Echo Six Mike Uniform Victor

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Zed or Zulu (as in 'don't throw those ++++++ spears at me [Wink] ). Or theta as they say in hispanish...

If I'm talking to Yanks I use Zee, to avoid confusion. I'm adaptable, me...

Tango Alpha Lima Lima Yankee Hotel Oscar!

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The 26th letter of the Roman alphabet is best pronounced as 'swish, swish, swish', followed by a surprised look at one's ruined shirtfront. [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by advice for robots:
Lake Superior, of course. What did you think I meant

Anyway, going to catch some zeds.

What about Ontario, Erie, and Huron? I live less than 20 miles away from the Zedders (my new nickname for Canadians), any by far my only real contact with someone using Zed has been whenever Rodney McKay refers to a ZedPM on Stargate: Atlantis.

I'm a Zee person myself.

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I say Zee. I used Zulu in the military.
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Touché Eduardo, your fiendish sword skills are no match for me...
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I have a Z in my last name, so it's "Zee as in Zebra".
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quote:
Originally posted by anti_maven:
Tango Alpha Lima Lima Yankee Hotel Oscar!

O_o

You're doing that wrong. There's supposed to be a number in there somewhere.

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Zed.
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quote:
Originally posted by RunningBear:
In Chinese, tsuh

Curse your Wades Giles pronounciation!

In proper Pin Yin:
C= tsuh
Z= zzz

can= tsahn

ze= zuh

edit: Also do you guys say "easy" or "eazy?"

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Zzzz. As in Zaphod or zymurgy or, if you have kids, a Zizzle-zazzle-zoo (as you can plainly see).
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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
edit: Also do you guys say "easy" or "eazy?"

The latter. The manner of speech around here tends to be on the lazy side. One of the ways that manifests is by unvoiced consonants preceded by a vowel being pronounced as their voiced counterparts:

Bottle = boddle
Latter = ladder
Easy = eazy
What are/is = whad are/is

Though it doesn't happen to \k\ and \p\; just \t\ and \s\. Curious. Maybe Jon-Boy could explain it.

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quote:
Originally posted by BlueWizard:
I suspect that 'zed' is to avoid confusion with 'C' (see), in conversation the zee/see (z/c) can be mixed up.

Actually, it's because the name was originally zeta (from the Greek alphabet). In French it became zede, and then the final e dropped off, which is where we get the English name. Zee arose as a variant by analogy with other letters, and Americans picked up the variant and made it standard.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
quote:
Originally posted by advice for robots:
Lake Superior, of course. What did you think I meant

Anyway, going to catch some zeds.

What about Ontario, Erie, and Huron? I live less than 20 miles away from the Zedders (my new nickname for Canadians), any by far my only real contact with someone using Zed has been whenever Rodney McKay refers to a ZedPM on Stargate: Atlantis.

I'm a Zee person myself.

I used to live in Duluth, MN, so I'm a Lake Superior person.
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Zed
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Zed's dead baby. Zed's dead.
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quote:
Originally posted by advice for robots:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
quote:
Originally posted by advice for robots:
Lake Superior, of course. What did you think I meant

Anyway, going to catch some zeds.

What about Ontario, Erie, and Huron? I live less than 20 miles away from the Zedders (my new nickname for Canadians), any by far my only real contact with someone using Zed has been whenever Rodney McKay refers to a ZedPM on Stargate: Atlantis.

I'm a Zee person myself.

I used to live in Duluth, MN, so I'm a Lake Superior person.
Ah, that explains it. I guess technically I'd be a Detroit River person, but I shudder to actually say that and proclaim myself a Lake Michigan person, as that is my favorite of all the lakes, and where I feel most at ease.
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NOBODY says "easy" with an /s/ sound. In English, a single s between vowels is almost always voiced (pronounced like a z). I can't think of any exceptions off the top of my head, though I'm sure there are some. This is a sound change that dates back thousands of years And the word "easy" comes from French, where intervocalic s is always voiced, without exception.

And technically speaking, intervocalic post-stress /t/ is not simply voiced, but flapped as well. The sound is the same as a single Spanish /r/, not a /d/. This is a more recent change in North America in the last century or two.

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The one that bothers me is how many people mispronounce words like "button" and "curtain."

Curtain I can understand, one "t" might be easy to miss. But mitten, button, rotten, fatten, smitten, these words have TWO "t"s! You can't ignore both!

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Except that you sound like a freaking weirdo if you pronounce them at the front of your mouth instead of in your throat. [Smile]
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There are lots of different ways to interpret 't's, not only with 'd's. Think of cockney accents, where the 't's are gone completely:

Bu'on

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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
The one that bothers me is how many people mispronounce words like "button" and "curtain."

Curtain I can understand, one "t" might be easy to miss. But mitten, button, rotten, fatten, smitten, these words have TWO "t"s! You can't ignore both!

Now that's just a ridiculous argument. The double t is merely a spelling convention to indicate that the preceding vowel is short. You don't actually PRONOUNCE both ts, even in careful speech.

And welcome to the world of linguistic tolerance. Your pet peeve is someone else's native dialect.

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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
The one that bothers me is how many people mispronounce words like "button" and "curtain."

Curtain I can understand, one "t" might be easy to miss. But mitten, button, rotten, fatten, smitten, these words have TWO "t"s! You can't ignore both!

My wife swallows the Ts in those words.

She says kitten, "Ki-en"

I know I know, I've tried to fix it!

She is from Washington and lived close to, "Seaddle"

Does anyone truely say, "Seattle?"

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Yeah, when I pronounce those ts it sounds really weird. I usually say "buh'in," "fah'in" and "smi'in." Though I had never really thought about it before.

I also say "zee" unless spelling something out in French.

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quote:
Originally posted by advice for robots:
Except that you sound like a freaking weirdo if you pronounce them at the front of your mouth instead of in your throat. [Smile]

No, the weirdos are the ones who do the below:
quote:
There are lots of different ways to interpret 't's, not only with 'd's. Think of cockney accents, where the 't's are gone completely:

Bu'on

This is the one I'm talking about. It drives me nuts. [Wall Bash]
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quote:

This is the one I'm talking about. It drives me nuts.

n'uts? [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
This is the one I'm talking about. It drives me nuts.

Hopefully it's a short drive. [Razz]
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Aaarrrrr!
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I pronounce it exactly the way it is spelled.
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quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:

This is the one I'm talking about. It drives me nuts.

n'uts? [Wink]
Nu's?
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quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
quote:
Originally posted by BlackBlade:
quote:

This is the one I'm talking about. It drives me nuts.

n'uts? [Wink]
Nu's?
That's what I meant.
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Nu'zoid.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Boy:
quote:
Originally posted by erosomniac:
This is the one I'm talking about. It drives me nuts.

Hopefully it's a short drive. [Razz]
Not really, the sea is vast.
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Rivka, you're a Ham radio op.?

Kilo Delta Seven Golf Oscar Oscar here.

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Zee. Unless there's a P and an M afterward.
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Zed. Although it has to be zee for the EDBTZ joke to work. [Taunt]
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quote:
Originally posted by Zevlag:
Rivka, you're a Ham radio op.?

Kilo Delta Seven Golf Oscar Oscar here.

Breaker, breaker. Ten-four, good buddy. Over and out.
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quote:
Originally posted by Zevlag:
Rivka, you're a Ham radio op.?

Well, I have a license. I haven't done anything with it (except renew it [Wink] ) for several years; my ex got all the radio equipment in the divorce.



afr, amateur radio is most emphatically NOT the same thing as CB radio.

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