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You've seen this game before, so you should know the rules. Vote for one +2 and two -2s per day. If you would like, you can use your +2 to add a movie to the list, but dead movies cannot be revived.
10 Glory 10 Troy 10 The Longest Day 10 Midway 10 Gettysburg 10 Enemy at the Gates 10 Saving Private Ryan 10 Spartacus 10 Gladiator 10 M*A*S*H 10 Braveheart 10 Blackhawk Down 10 Platoon 10 The Great Raid 10 Full Metal Jacket 10 Tora! Tora! Tora! 10 Master and Commander 10 Patton 10 Hotel Rwanda 10 Tears of the Sun
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Here is the problem. While I like Apocalypse Now, I like Platoon better, but I like Gallipoli the most. So, I guess I'm going to have to burn points
Now that I think about it, Three Kings did not suck. Oh, well
+2 Gallipoli -2 Saving Private Ryan -2 M*A*S*H
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+2 for Glory (agree with adding Great Escape and Bridge on the River Kwai) -2 for Gladiator -2 for Master and Commander
Current List: 12 Glory 12 Great Escape 12 Bridge on the River Kwai 10 The Longest Day 10 Midway 10 Gettysburg 10 Enemy at the Gates 10 Saving Private Ryan 10 Spartacus 10 M*A*S*H 10 Braveheart 10 Blackhawk Down 10 Platoon 10 The Great Raid 10 Full Metal Jacket 10 Tora! Tora! Tora! 10 Master and Commander 10 Patton 8 Hotel Rwanda 8 Tears of the Sun 8 Troy 6 Gladiator
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12 Braveheart 12 Glory 12 Great Escape 12 Bridge on the River Kwai 10 The Longest Day 10 Midway 10 Gettysburg 10 Enemy at the Gates 10 Saving Private Ryan 10 Spartacus 10 M*A*S*H 10 Blackhawk Down 10 Platoon 10 The Great Raid 10 Full Metal Jacket 10 Tora! Tora! Tora! 10 Patton 8 Master and Commander 8 Hotel Rwanda 8 Tears of the Sun 8 Troy 4 Gladiator
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12 Glory 12 Apocalypse Now 10 Three Kings 10 Zulu 10 Gallipoli 10 The Great Escape 10 Bridge on the River Kwai 10 The Longest Day 10 Midway 10 Gettysburg 10 Enemy at the Gates 10 Spartacus 10 Blackhawk Down 10 Platoon 10 The Great Raid 10 Full Metal Jacket 10 Tora! Tora! Tora! 10 Patton 8 Braveheart 8 Hotel Rwanda 8 Tears of the Sun 8 Saving Private Ryan 8 Master and Commander 8 Troy 6 Gladiator 4 M*A*S*H
Alright, updated list. Added movies start at 10, and can be voted up from there. Apologies for good movies that have been left out. To be honest, I've never seen Apocalypse Now, which is probably a crime, especially since I love Heart of Darkness so much, and I honestly forgot about Great Escape, and haven't see Gallipoli either.
As far as what counts as a war movie, I'm using a broad definition. Movies like The Great Raid, or Andersonville depict prisons, escapes, that sort of thing, but are still war movies. There's some great war movies that have comparatively little fighting in them, which is why I count films like Gladiator, and I'd probably be willing to add something like The Pianist too, even though it isn't about the war.
[Updated to 4:45pm: I had Three Kings on the list originally, but took it off because the list was already pretty big, silly reason now I guess.]
+2 Sgt. York (great Gary Cooper WWI flick)
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12 Glory 12 Apocalypse Now 10 Three Kings 10 Zulu 10 Gallipoli 10 The Great Escape 10 Bridge on the River Kwai 10 The Longest Day 10 Midway 10 Gettysburg 12 Enemy at the Gates 10 Spartacus 10 Blackhawk Down 10 Platoon 10 The Great Raid 10 Full Metal Jacket 10 Tora! Tora! Tora! 10 Patton 8 Braveheart 8 Hotel Rwanda 8 Tears of the Sun 8 Saving Private Ryan 8 Master and Commander 4 Troy 6 Gladiator 4 M*A*S*H
quote:Originally posted by Megan: Reading this thread makes me realize how few "war movies" I've seen and how little I've enjoyed the ones I have seen. Hrm.
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Dag - Perhaps a bit premature . You know technically any of the Star Wars films would qualify as war movies, especially if we're allowing fictional wars.
Blayne your list is off. It should be:
12 Glory 12 Enemy at the Gates 12 Apocalypse Now 10 The Thin Red Line 10 Jarhead 10 Three Kings 10 Zulu 10 Gallipoli 10 The Great Escape 10 Bridge on the River Kwai 10 The Longest Day 10 Midway 10 Gettysburg 10 Spartacus 10 Blackhawk Down 10 The Great Raid 10 Full Metal Jacket 10 Tora! Tora! Tora! 10 Patton 8 Platoon 8 Hotel Rwanda 8 Saving Private Ryan 6 Tears of the Sun 6 Master and Commander 6 Braveheart 4 Gladiator 4 M*A*S*H 4 Troy
Not sure how I feel about using two -2s on the same movie, but if you hate it that much, I suppose it's all fair.
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+2 Blackhawk Down -2 Thin Red Line (though I need to watch it again and see if my opinion has changed) -2 Gladiator
note: I'm personally just judging on value as an accurate/valuable depiction of war (not necessarily saying negatives are for bad movies, just movies that I don't think do a good job representing war)
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quote:Enemy at the Gates is way overrated. +2 to The Thin Red Line which for some reason is not on there.
See at first I thought, "No way, Enemy At The Gates is quite decent!" And then I thought, "Thin Red Line? Are you kidding me?!"
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12 Glory 12 Enemy at the Gates 12 Apocalypse Now 12 Full Metal Jacket 10 Blackhawk Down 10 Sgt. York 10 Jarhead 10 Three Kings 10 Zulu 10 Gallipoli 10 The Great Escape 10 Bridge on the River Kwai 10 The Longest Day 10 Midway 10 Gettysburg 10 Spartacus 10 The Great Raid 10 Tora! Tora! Tora! 10 Patton 8 Hotel Rwanda 8 Saving Private Ryan 8 Platoon 6 Tears of the Sun 6 Master and Commander 6 Braveheart 6 The Thin Red Line 4 M*A*S*H 2 Troy 2 Gladiator
Updated to 6:28 Sgt. York added, apologies to FC, I did miss it.
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There are a lot on here that I haven't seen, but of the ones I have, none can touch Grave of the Fireflies. Can we add that one?
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How on Earth did Lawrence of Arabia not make the list? It's IMHO the best movie, period, of all time.
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Would Richard III count as a war movie? Or what about The Sound of Music? Or Gandhi? Or The Last Emperor? Or Birth of a Nation? Or Das Boot?
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It was a starter list Dante, I fully expected people to add movies to it as we go along.
And I think I make the cutoff at Sound of Music. Too much singing, not enough Nazis.
Earndil, choose one of those for your +2. One +2 per day, and two -2s. As for LOTR, I'm curious as to what other think on including fantasy/scifi/anime movies on the list.
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quote:Originally posted by Baron Samedi: Would Richard III count as a war movie? Or what about The Sound of Music? Or Gandhi? Or The Last Emperor? Or Birth of a Nation? Or Das Boot?
Only if you're from Switzerland.
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+2 Apocalypse Now -2 Troy (seriously, I'm glad to be able to annihlate it) -2 The Thin Red Line
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14 Apocalypse Now 12 Glory 12 Full Metal Jacket 10 Enemy at the Gates 10 Blackhawk Down 10 Grave of the Fireflies 10 Sgt. York 10 Jarhead 10 Three Kings 10 Zulu 10 Gallipoli 10 The Great Escape 10 Bridge on the River Kwai 10 The Longest Day 10 Midway 10 Gettysburg 10 Spartacus 10 The Great Raid 10 Tora! Tora! Tora! 10 Patton 8 Hotel Rwanda 8 Saving Private Ryan 8 Platoon 6 Master and Commander 6 Braveheart 4 The Thin Red Line 4 M*A*S*H 4 Tears of the Sun 2 Gladiator
Eliminated: Troy
(Alright, anime, fantasy, sci fi, it's all fair game, so long as you nominate it fairly by burning a vote (as Storm puts it ). People will decide with their negatives and positives whether or not the genre really matters when choosing the greatest war movie ever.)
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I foresee there being a problem of people voting down a movie because they haven't seen it. I understand that that may just be how the ball bounces in this particular format, but I wonder if it's fair to say that a movie is 'better' than another that no one's seen, because in that case, it's not 'better', it's just been seen more.
/Porter
(I love ya, mph. I just have to tease. )
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If it's all fair game if it's circumstantially related to war, then shouldn't Schindler's List be on there?
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I considered it, along with The Pianist when I was first making the list, but I hadn't decided how close to war it needed to be in order to count. I think those are both fair game though.
Feel free to add it tomorrow .
I think in order for it to be considered a war movie, the main thrust of the movie has to be directly related to the war, rather than the backdrop, thus, Sound of Music doesn't count because it's really more about the Von Trapp family and some darn good Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer acting than it is about the Nazis, who are at best a subplot.
Schindler's List and The Pianist count because the war is the cause of every ill that takes place in the movies, and both feature elements of the war itself in them.
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Can we count Band of Brothers? Other countries take their miniseries and call them movies in the US (Das Boot, The Decalogue, Berlin Alexanderplatz, Scenes from a Marraige, Fanny and Alexander) so there's precedent for calling tv productions movies when people want to forget they came from tv . So +2 to Band of Brothers if it counts (I think of it as a film, not as tv) otherwise I'd say +2 to Empire of the Sun -2 to MASH -2 to Troy
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Alright, Band of Brothers we can include, since it's a miniseries, but I'm drawing the line at television shows.
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12 Apocalypse Now 12 Glory 12 Full Metal Jacket 10 Gettysburg 10 Der Untergang (Downfall) 10 Enemy at the Gates 10 Band of Brothers 10 Blackhawk Down 10 Grave of the Fireflies 10 Sgt. York 10 Three Kings 10 Zulu 10 Gallipoli 10 The Great Escape 10 Bridge on the River Kwai 10 The Longest Day 10 Midway 10 Spartacus 10 The Great Raid 10 Tora! Tora! Tora! 10 Patton 8 Hotel Rwanda 8 Saving Private Ryan 8 Platoon 8 Jarhead 6 Master and Commander 6 Braveheart 4 Tears of the Sun 2 Gladiator 2 The Thin Red Line 2 M*A*S*H
Eliminated: Troy
Adam_S - Troy has already been eliminated, it can't get any deader Feel free to amend your vote.
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edit: lol we're posting at the same time -2 to Gettysburg, puts me to sleep everytime, but I own the extended score, go figure.
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Gonna have to toss out your -2 for Gettysburg. I just finished watching it, and I love it
My own votes are going to be +2 to add Der Untergang (Downfall), which I stupidly left off my own list. -2 Thin Red Line -2 Jarhead
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