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Farmgirl
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There are also some great new pictures at:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/

FG

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Latest Cassini images, for your delectation. [Smile]
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Pretty....
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Thanks Anne Kate--those are some great pictures!

::performs elaborate Noemonic Knight handshake::

Cassini Probes Titan's Mysteries

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OOOH! Hydrocarbons! [Big Grin]
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Cosmonaut Andrian Nikolayev Dies at 74
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Hee hee Cassini was all I heard about this past weekend. I think I got to see some of the data before it even hit the presses. Though being surrounded by a bunch of planetary science grad students (at the U of AZ) would do the trick!
[Wink]

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Saturn Hailstorm

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An instrument onboard Cassini recorded a flurry of tiny particles pelting the spacecraft as it crossed Saturn's dusty ring plane.

It's in orbit!

There's also an audio track of what it sounds like, as Cassini went through the planes.

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Noemon
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Tilting at Asteroids.

This is so great--another step toward devising an asteroid defense plan!

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Hawking cracks black hole paradox.

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"He sent a note saying 'I have solved the black hole information paradox and I want to talk about it'," says Curt Cutler, a physicist at the Albert Einstein Institute in Golm, Germany, who is chairing the conference's scientific committee. "I haven't seen a preprint [of the paper]. To be quite honest, I went on Hawking's reputation."

Though Hawking has not yet revealed the detailed maths behind his finding, sketchy details have emerged from a seminar Hawking gave at Cambridge. According to Cambridge colleague Gary Gibbons, an expert on the physics of black holes who was at the seminar, Hawking's black holes, unlike classic black holes, do not have a well-defined event horizon that hides everything within them from the outside world.

In essence, his new black holes now never quite become the kind that gobble up everything. Instead, they keep emitting radiation for a long time, and eventually open up to reveal the information within. "It's possible that what he presented in the seminar is a solution," says Gibbons. "But I think you have to say the jury is still out."

Gotta like the fact he can get time at the podium with a simple email like that. [Big Grin]

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*still in awe of the wheelchair guy*

That asteroid thing will also be more practice at rendezvous. Of course we are talking about a rather hot approach....

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NASA release awesome, awesome Apollo pictures.
Satyagraha

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It'll be interesting to see what kind of solar storms result from the sunspot group 652, which is 20 times larger than Earth
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SpaceShipOne's Flight Dates for Winning the X-Prize Set.
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Man, it's been a long time since I've updated this thread.

Magnetic Beams Could Power Swifter Spacecraft

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While that last link is very cool, I first read it as "spacecars" which would have been even cooler.
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Noemon
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That would be cooler.

My only concern with this technology is that NASA make sure that the space station that will fire the beam that will slow the ship as it approaches its destination actually, you know, works. Make sure that nothing is installed upside-freaking-down, that there is a consistent unit of measurement used by both the station and the ship, and other tricky stuff like this.

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The savings in energy required by not having to move the energy source are huge. My concerns are similar. Imagine this conversation:

Pilot: "Mars station 1, this is ship alpha charlie tango. We are ready to initiate braking maneuver X-12."

*silence*

Pilot: "Mars station 1, repeat, this is ship alpha charlie tango. We are ready to initiate braking maneuver X-12."

*silence*

Pilot: "Mars station 1, do you copy?"

*silence*

Pilot: "Um, are you guys there?"

*silence*

Pilot (to the crew): OK guys, do you want to crash into Mars or head to Jupiter?

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quote:
Make sure that nothing is installed upside-freaking-down, that there is a consistent unit of measurement used by both the station and the ship, and other tricky stuff like this.
Awww, that's just crazy talk. No way would something like that happen in real life.

[Wink]

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It would be pretty wild if they built the station around the wrong planet or something.
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Hey, y'all, thanks for this thread. I've enjoyed it immensely and will still be looking up links for weeks to come. Imagine, all that happened while I was in outer darkness. I have no idea . . .
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quote:
Awww, that's just crazy talk. No way would something like that happen in real life.

Yeah, it's not rocket science.

Quidscribs, glad you're enjoying the thread!

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OK, a little something I don't get: if the ions being emitted from this station are being accelerated to a high enough velocity that they will actually push the magnetic sails hard enough to make the spacecraft get to Mars and back in 90 days, why aren't they also pushing the emitter backwards? Or is that not a problem?
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Good point. Even at low-thrust/high-contiuous specific impulse, there would still be a reaction.

But if the emitter were at the Moon's pole, that might not be a problem.

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http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/10/20/warped.space/index.html

Measurements on "frame dragging" distortion of space-time.

AJ

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Cool!
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Cassini is scheduled for a Titan flyby tomorrow!
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Isn't DART supposed to go sometime this week?
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Pictures from Cassini

I'd imagine this may be the first place you can see the pictures that arrive on wednesday.

AJ

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Titan's Big Surprise

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The Cassini flyby of Titan sent back the most detailed surface images, but the 1000 kilometer cloud formation near the south pole has scientists stumped.
Farmgirl
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You beat me to it!
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Looks like a pretty good site too.
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You're slowing down on the job, Noemon!
[Evil Laugh] FG

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Titan's Complex and Strange World Revealed
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My Dad was part of this big Europa mission, a new and exciting satalite being sent out to Europa to make some observations, and then (and this was the part my Dad was involved in) try to figure out from the measurments if there was liquid water under the ice sheets. The proposal was accepted by NASA, then put off, then put off, then cancelled due to funding issues. [Frown]

Hobbes [Smile]

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Noemon
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What does your dad do exactly Hobbes? That's really interesting.
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Geophysicist at the University of Colorado, Boulder. One of the top men in his field. [Smile] He's one of the leading experts on greenhouse effects, which is amussing since, despite being very liberal when it comes to the enviroment, doesn't much care about greenhouse effects, and what made him the expert is that his doctorate thesis is the bassis of almost all calculations on the subject. [Smile]

Hobbes [Smile]

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[Cool]
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But now I've derailed your thread into me being proud of my Dad...

sorry.

Hobbes [Smile]

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No problem. I'm almost always a big fan of thread derailment. If the derailment takes we can just start a new thread in the same vein as this one.
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Prize aims for orbiting space tourists
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SMART-1 approaching moon
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Nifty! Thanks for the update!
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Did the SCRAM engine test happen yet?
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I'm not sure Dag, I'll have to look.

Looks like they've got the funding for a space tug in place.

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It's about time!

NASA had plans for the OMV (Orbital Maneuvering Vehicle) over 10 years ago. Excellent idea (whether it's European or American)! And funding's good, too!

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It's about time!

NASA had plans for the OMV (Orbital Maneuvering Vehicle) over 10 years ago. Excellent idea (whether it's European or American)! And funding's good, too!

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Yeah Steve, it seems like a pretty basic tool for a space program to equip itself with. Probably would have been a better investment to build a little fleet of these than build the international space station, I'd say.
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http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20041113/fob5.asp

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First Light: Faint object may be youngest star detected

Ron Cowen

Peeking into the dusty core of a dark cloud seemingly devoid of stars, astronomers have found a faintly glowing body that could be the earliest glimmerings ever recorded from a newborn star. If the object, spied by the infrared eye of the orbiting Spitzer Space Telescope, is indeed a fledgling star, it's the least massive star ever observed. It weighs in at less than one-thousandth the mass of the sun.

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Astronomers aren't certain how to classify the object, which resides 6,000 light-years from Earth in a dense core of gas and dust. The body may someday accumulate enough gas and dust to become a bona fide star. Another possibility is that the supply of material will run out before the object can achieve starhood, and it will become a brown dwarf instead, says Neal J. Evans of the University of Texas at Austin. It's also possible that the object is neither star nor brown dwarf, but something more exotic, he adds.
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New observations with ground-based near-infrared telescopes have ruled out that scenario, says Evans. Team member Tracy L. Huard of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass., and his colleagues found a fan-shaped glow coinciding with the puzzling object. That glow is too feeble to have come from the more distant core and "strongly suggests the source is embedded in the L1014 core," Huard reported at the Spitzer conference.

The faint signal seen by Spitzer implies a "very slow and gentle" accumulation of material in L1014 that may indicate "a new way of forming stars," Evans says. The Spitzer team has found other candidates for young stars in several supposedly starless cores.

Star modeler Alan P. Boss of the Carnegie Institution of Washington (D.C.) says the low mass and luminosity inferred from the Spitzer observations are "quite consistent" with current ideas about the birth of stars. Says Boss: "Spitzer has found a good example of the earliest phase of star formation seen to date."


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[Cool]
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