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A person sets himself up for disappointment when he declares his own greatness. I don't know "Thor" or "Danlo" or whoever he is. I did not personally enjoy the portions of the screenplay that were posted. I don't know if he has the capacity to write well -- but that was not good writing. It could be that he does have that capacity, in which case my advice to him would be to go back to the beginning and simplify. He has fallen so in love with his own script that he has forgotten to tell the story. He has hashed and re-hashed it so many times that he has lost the line between what he knows about the tale, and what he is communicating to the audience. I recognize the signs. I've done this a few times myself. His mantra should be: "simple and clear, simple and clear, simple and clear, simple and clear...."
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I find Thor's brand of self-aggrandizement generally distasteful. If you're really great, you don't ever need to tell anyone that.
That said, I had no opinion on the script. I've seen better, and I've seen worse. Additionally, if you don't have a lot of experience reading scripts of movies that actually get made it can be difficult to tell good from bad, or how the page will translate to the screen. This is experience that I know I'm lacking, which is one reason why I didn't offer any criticism.
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I didn't wipe the thread because of criticism, I wiped it because it was boiling into a "this is so horrible there's no way this person is real' thread.
There is a level of pure cruelness that comes from the internet, where people revel in being very, very mean in a very personal way.
It is like a disease, where people are so angry and unhappy with their own lives they feel the need to try and spread this feeling to others. I don't think anything I've said or done justified the personal attacks, but hey, you feel different.
Don't say I wiped it because I couldn't handle the criticism, I wiped it because I don't want to get kicked off of hatrack, and it was getting to the point where I really didn't know how to respond without resorting to personal attacks too.
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The best way to respond -- and I mean this completely sincerely -- is to make a damn fine movie.
I was being sincere about the offer to fix your typos, BTW. Unless they're in there for artistic effect, it can't hurt to get rid of 'em.
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Baron, got any photographs of yourself you'd like to share?
Usually I find when people make fun of someone's looks and weight it is usually because they are so attractive, they have no choice but to inform others of how unattractive they should feel.
I can't tell you how much I regret starting this thread.
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I am still amazed that so many were such total asses
how do I get rid of this feeling?
that behind 50% of smiles are small petty people who really want people to feel like this, who don't know or care what people have been through or are going through,
I've had to counsel someone very close to me in the last few weeks after their suicide attempt, and it has drained me DRY, maybe they are right, the world is filled with mostly cruel people who thrive off making people miserable.
These last few years have been so rough in so many ways, and every where I go, I treat people well, I am nice, kind and considerate and work to do the right things, help others, and the world just gets meaner.
I don't know what to do.
I know it is my idiotic fault, but I swear, Hatrack didn't used to be like this.
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Thor, if it counts for anything, I think you've got a great eye for cinema and a reasonably photogenic bod. In fact, you're looking better in that picture than in older pictures you've shared with us. The props are probably unnecessary, though. Posts: 37449 | Registered: May 1999
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I saw your earlier affirmative reply, and I'm still serious about really liking your art, wanting to buy it, and wanting to help you sell it. How do you want to talk turkey?
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If it helps...and since I missed some of the posts you wiped it may not....the original comment about being a real person wasn't even directed at you, but about another poster who claims to be using a translator to post here.
On the other hand, for someone who waltzes in here and starts bragging about how great he is, you seem to have a remarkably thin skin.
Perhaps you your came across more genuine....like you did the past two comments, to be honest....and left the bombastic, combative bull crap behind people who be more understanding of you, and possibly even more sympathetic to your views. I don't know you IRL...but I have little to base my opinion of you other than your interactions on Hatrack, and some (IMO) really bad screenplay pages...which you claim to be brilliant, possibly your life's work.
You often come across as bombastic, spastic, and often times barely coherent, and are never very open to hearing what others have to say, yet you claim others are mean spirited and petty? Perhaps you should look for the seeds of the same in your own posts.
If you like I could post some specifics, but I don't want to dog pile on you.
This isn't the first time you have some here bragging about a product that still hasn't materialized, claiming you are a wonderful (insert something creative here) with very little to back it up. I believe you even challenged OSC to a writing duel at one point, claiming you would outsell him.
How's that going, BTW?
I don't doubt that pic was really of you, although I have no way of proving it one way or another. You look better than I do, even if the props are a little over the top. Posts: 15082 | Registered: Jul 2001
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You seem like a completely different person now than you did in your original few posts on this thread, which were pretty over the top.
People are always going to react badly to someone who brags about imaginary accomplishments. I'm sorry. I hardly think it's evidence of the cruelty of the world.
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You made hatrack like this. You have made yourself very unlikable. Maybe if you had acted like a person from the beginning you would have been treated kinder.
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quote:You made hatrack like this. You have made yourself very unlikable. Maybe if you had acted like a person from the beginning you would have been treated kinder.
Okay. Are you parodying my post?
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quote:Originally posted by Danlo the Wild: Baron, got any photographs of yourself you'd like to share?
Usually I find when people make fun of someone's looks and weight it is usually because they are so attractive, they have no choice but to inform others of how unattractive they should feel.
I can't tell you how much I regret starting this thread.
I often find that people who start threads about their greatness and then get offended when they are made fun of and expect sympathy from me are clueless as to how they appear to others. I felt bad for you when Baron said that... now not so much.
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Yeah, ok, you inbred farts, i recognize that the internet makes you feel all big and bad, but I think we know if we stood toe to toe, you'd cry like a baby and blame your mom for poor home schooling, or the kids in gym class who made fun of you for licking the skid marks in your britches.
Your virginity has you down? fine. take it out on me
Frustrated that you're a crappy parent? great! take it out on me
Crappy job got you feeling crappy? take it out on me
You can use excuses like 'He said he was Great', but no, in this instance, my previous alter-ego said I felt the first 10 pages were great for the story.
I don't expect you to understand the nuance, really, Edorkthugs need no explanation.
I liken it to trying to bring Democracy to a country of cockroaches, it is gonna go over like a lead balloon, or a George W Bush presidency.
Some of you kids are so angry at your own personal fusion with absolute averageness, that you feel the need to pull up a high chair and pee pee on things you don't like.
I am trying to write something that the majority of people enjoy and appreciate, odds are I will fail.
At the end of the day, I get to be me, and you are you.
I'm a joke on Hatrack, you're a joke in real life.
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Shall I start quoting the Fountainhead as proof?
"God had been ripped from the great pedestal and in his place was not satan, but the fart residue boys of hatrack who are no larger in real life than their return key masturbating over Sarah Palin's intelligence, wisdom and values while they wait for mommy to take them to the mall."
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Danlo, if you happen to come back and see this, I think I'd like to apologize. I didn't happen to like your screenplay, but we all have different tastes. And I do think you should look seriously at whether or not you are communicating to the audience what you intend to communicate. /advice
In this thread, I was less hostile than some, and more hostile than others... But wherever I fall within the ranks of hostility, I was too hostile for my own taste. I should have been more considerate. You don't seem so bad.
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Thor, I haven't read the pages yet, but when I do I'll be sure to post my comments. I won't email or give the script to anyone else. ( except I'll show it to my mom.)
I really liked the parts you posted.
I definitely love the way you write. The visuals are so descriptive, I can see the scenes!
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I'm sorry to "encourage" this and I don't have a lot of background in Asian history (real or not) but I would like to read your script, Thor, and provide criticism (if you are open to it- general or specific).
This is partially for my own benefit, as I am also interested in writing for film (at the moment mostly in an academic way) and would like to test my critical abilities.
My email's in my profile, if you want to send it to me.
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If you knew anything about me, you'd know that I have never kept my identity or my appearance a secret from anyone. You, on the other hand, apparently believe that everyone here is as sensitive about their appearances as you are. If so, I'm very sorry for you.
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Thor...I love my wife and she loves me, we are faithful, we don't have children yet, aren't virgins, and look much like a lot of other 38 year old people...at little overweight, but OK with that.
I don't feel I am average in most ways....and I do feel your writing style here at Hatrack sucks.
I have been here for quite some time, and I don't recall anyone every saying they loved your writing HALF as much as you claim you do. It is one thing to love your own writing, it is another to claim to be able to see your ideas as the best....even better than OSC.
I remember Hatrackers having to send you money to help flee a hurricane...or at least offering to, I don't know if they actually did or not....and I remember your griping about cash vividly. Yet you expect us to believe you didn't sell this wonderful idea you had because of why? A lack of belief in capitalism? I belief that you will somehow be able to fund this movie some other way?
Bullshit.
I don't know you IRL, but I sure the hell am not afraid of you there, or here on Hatrack. I might even like you IRL...who knows.
But here you spend almost all you time bashing others...their religion, their politics, and their taste....and then you have the balls to complain about how THEY treat YOU?
lol
If you would like, I could post links to many, many false claims you have made just regarding your own writing...or at least claims that have little to no proof. I have yet to see anything about you that deserves respect, and there are plenty of things you do and say here that prevent me from extending the benefit of the doubt to you.
Until you lay off the bombastic language and try to deal with people on a more personal level, and stop lambasting people with poorly thought out rhetoric, I doubt many people will change their opinion of you. You seem comfortable enough assuming the worst of everyone who even slightly disagrees with you, so I don't think you have a right to expect any more than that back.
I would rather be 1/2 of me than be 200% of you any day. At least I wouldn't be embarrassing myself by posting my 5th grade writing assignment and claiming it was the best thing ever.
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9/3/1992 Mrs. Walsh, 3rd grade Ori Hatrequero
My Summer Vacation, By Ori
I had a awesome summer vacation. My mom said that my dad was going to take us to Hawaii but he didn't because we were going to my gramma's hours for a wedding for my aunt but when we went I had to sleep on the couch which was noncomfortable my uncle is nice though. Also in the summer we got a dog his name is Billy and I said that was a good name but my sister said he should be fido but I said that was stupid and I got in truble with my mom for saying it was dumb. Later in summer I got sick with the cold flue but it as ok because I got jello lots of jello.
That'll be 200 Thousand Dollars.
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I have made no false claims about my writing, or situations brought on by my writing.
If I believe my latest script has elements of greatness, it is not a false claim. It is an opinion.
It is weird how a religion is allowed to blanketly bash whole groups of people, spend thousands of man hours bashing them and hundreds of millions of dollars bashing them, but oh, I am such a jerk for say stuff like "I saw a picture of Mr. Hinckley standing in front of the big Temple wearing a business suit. That is creepy."
The day Jesus wants me to wear a business suit is the day I switch religions.
You blast me for blasting people who believed in George W. Bush for 8 years and his satanic economic policies? Come on dude. Judge that tree by its fruit, and OSC has been far worse than I on this subject way more often.
Bashing people's tastes? I don't like the Jonas Brothers. Do you?
As far as me claiming to be better than OSC, his body of work is greater than mine for sure, and I don't know if I could ever write something as awesome as Ender's Game.
...but I will take my writing today over his writing today. I think I fell asleep on page 2 of the Ender's Game sequel, and I still laugh when I think of the Nanci Pelosi DEATH MECHA in Empire, though the 1st half was pretty good.
But... if Tom Davidson says I have been an ass and need to apologize, then I have been an ass and need to apologize. He's my common sense barometer here at Hatrack.
So I would like to apologize for being too much of a jerk since my return. Hatrack is filled with a lot of good hearted people and I do not want to bring down the quality of posts or people here.
I lost my composure and my civility at times during some of our passionate discussions here and for that I am sorry. I will try not to sink to those levels again.
I believe all people who believe in God and work to be better people are Christians.
I need to learn to deal better in my discussions with those faiths that make the claim to be the "true" Church of Jesus.
True faith in God rests with each individual, NOT with a church.
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quote:Originally posted by Danlo the Wild: but oh, I am such a jerk for say stuff like "I saw a picture of Mr. Hinckley standing in front of the big Temple wearing a business suit. That is creepy."
"Creepy" is bashing a man who died recently, merely because of his choice in clothing.
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Did he speak in a downhome texas drawl and say things like: "you just don't understand how things're dun round here...?"
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