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I think it's to everyone's benefit that America's most beloved libertarian confused grandpa never became president.
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Even if the RNC or the GOP or whatever noodled some of their rules around to keep ron paul from getting to do something I guess people think he would have otherwise been able to do in the primary (though i think most of these postulations are delusions) he would have never in a million years have won an election
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quote:Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee told supporters in Iowa on Thursday that if he were elected president he would consider using the FBI or National Guard to end abortion by force. Per the Topeka Capital-Journal:
"I will not pretend there is nothing we can do to stop this," Huckabee said at the event, where a Topeka Capital-Journal correspondent was present.
At his next stop, in Rockwell City, Huckabee answered follow-up questions from the correspondent, saying: "All American citizens should be protected."
Asked by another reporter how he would stop abortion, and whether this would mean using the FBI or federal forces to accomplish this, Huckabee replied: "We'll see if I get to be president."
quote:In an address to an exclusive gathering of wealthy donors over the weekend, billionaire Charles Koch said that he and his political network seek "to right injustices" in the style of other movements in American history like abolition, women's suffrage or civil rights.
The Koch brothers brought together a group of 450 conservatives who had donated at least $100,000 to groups backed by Charles Koch and his brother, David, and invited several Republican presidential candidates to address them.
Koch told the donors, "Look at the American revolution, the anti-slavery movement, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement," according to the Washington Post. "All of these struck a moral chord with the American people."
quote:Michigan state Rep. Todd Courser (R) planned to release a fake story claiming that he was caught having sex with a male prostitute in order to cover up his relationship with fellow state Rep. Cindy Gamrat (R), according to audio recordings released by The Detroit News Friday.
Courser was apparently caught on tape discussing the plan in a series of recordings made by a House aide.
“Courser secretly removed from Caucus several weeks ago due to male on male paid for sex behind a prominent Lansing nightclub,” an email announcing the fake story would have stated. “He is a bisexual, porn-addicted sexual deviant.” Courser said on one recording that the fake story was designed to make any subsequent reports look like “a complete smear campaign” against him. He also commented that the story needed to “make anything else that comes out after that — that isn’t a video — mundane, tame by comparison.”
“I need to, if possible, inoculate the herd against gutter politics that are coming,” he said.
The now-former House aide who recorded the conversations has been identified as Ben Graham, who was fired by Courser in early July.
Courser declined to comment to The Detroit News earlier this week, but did confirm that it was his voice when one of the recordings was played.
“I’m not commenting on what happened in my office between Ben [Graham] and I inside here,” Courser told The Detroit News Monday. “I don’t have any comment at all.”
Courser also disputed the legality of the recording.
Courser and Gamrat both rose to political prominence as Tea Party activists who took on the Republican establishment to win their seats in the state House last year.
Courser, married with four children, represents Michigan’s 82nd district. Gamrat, married with three children, represents Michigan’s 80th district.
quote: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell may be ruling out a government shutdown at the end of September, but Sen. Ted Cruz certainly is not. “The last government shutdown occurred because Barack Obama and Harry Reid took an extreme position and they were unwilling to compromise and negotiate,” the Texas Republican said of the 2013 budget standoff. “So, I cannot give any guarantee as to whether the Obama administration will once again play partisan political games. For six-and-a-half years, that has been their pattern. So, no one would be surprised to see them go down that road again.”
Reality actually just depends on your perspective.
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If Trump was president he'd probably be the first one to make a billion dollars while president.
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quote:He added, “it’s a false narrative that I want to get rid of all of welfare and all the programs. That’s just something that the left-wing puts out to try to make me seem like a bad guy. That’s absolutely a lie. But what I do want to do is get business, industry, academia, Wall Street, churches, community groups involved and investing in people around them. Because that’s the only thing that brings people out.” And “since the 60s, we’ve spent over 19 trillion dollars on the war on poverty. What do we have? 10 times more people on food stamps, more welfare, more incarceration and crime, broken families, out of wedlock birth. Everything was supposed to be better, it’s not only worse, it’s much worse.”
In sum:
other people spending money on poverty = the only thing that brings people out the government spending money on poverty = THE WORST THING EVER
Also, nice post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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Man, if only Dr. Carson had learned how evil government welfare was before he received food stamps, affirmative action benefits, housing, and free public education.
Think of what an amazing doctor he would have been otherwise?!
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quote: (MD) Gov. Larry Hogan's top housing official said Friday that he wants to look at loosening state lead paint poisoning laws, saying they could motivate a mother to deliberately poison her child to obtain free housing.
Kenneth C. Holt, secretary of Housing, Community and Development, told an audience at the Maryland Association of Counties summer convention here that a mother could just put a lead fishing weight in her child's mouth, then take the child in for testing and a landlord would be liable for providing the child with housing until the age of 18.
Pressed afterward, Holt said he had no evidence of this happening but said a developer had told him it was possible. "This is an anecdotal story that was described to me as something that could possibly happen," Holt said.
quote:Former Florida governor and GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush had an awkward conversation about Common Core education standards this week, calling the initiative’s name “poisonous” while attempting to appeal to conservatives who oppose the program — even though he supports it.
While speaking at the Iowa State Fair in Des Moines on Friday, former Florida governor Bush tried to talk his way around a question about the Common Core Standards Initiative, an education policy initiated by the National Governors Association that tries to bring education standards into alignment nationwide.
“The term ‘Common Core’ is so darn poisonous, I don’t even know what it means,” Bush said. “[But] I’m for higher standards — state-created, locally implemented — where the federal government has no role in the creation of standards, content or curriculum.”
The evasive answer appears to be an attempt to sidestep widespread Republican opposition to the policy, which is rooted in the misconception that it amounts to a “federal takeover” of the education system — even though the standards were created by state governors, not the federal government, and developed at the state level.
But Bush seemed far more confident about what Common Core “means” in May, when he repeated his longstanding support for the policy at an event in Tennessee.
“Because people have a different view of what Common Core is, am I supposed to back away from something that I know works?” Bush told attendees at the event, which occurred before announced his candidacy for president.
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To be fair, I'm happy to have prominent conservatives standing up for Common Core. I don't think I've had a conversation with somebody on the street who complained about it that actually knew what it was.
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So who's the prominent conservative who's standing up for it? Based on that, it doesn't sound like Jeb is.
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He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. When he's talking to people who don't support it, he makes it sound like he doesn't support it either.
Imagine a supporter of the ACA saying, "Gee, we need some sort of solution that requires people to get health insurance, but the name 'Obamacare' is just so divisive." Sure, this person didn't say they didn't support Obamacare, but it'd certainly give you the impression that they don't.
That's not really what I'd call support, and I'd say it's overly generous to say that he's simply doing a poor job standing up for it. He's very carefully not explicitly supporting it when it's in his best interests not to.
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quote:George Zimmerman is now selling prints of his Confederate flag painting at a gun store that made headlines earlier this year for deeming itself a "Muslim-free" zone.
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Zimmerman was originally painting an American flag when he heard the Council for American/Islamic Relations was planning a lawsuit against Hallinan.
"The caption, 'the 2nd protects the first' is a double entendre," Zimmerman said in a statement on Florida Gun Supply's website. "The first flag I painted on this canvas was an American Flag, but decided to repaint over it with the Confederate Flag when I heard Andy was getting sued by CAIR. The 2nd flag I painted was the Battle Flag - which we need in America in order to protect the first."
quote:Donald Trump is defending his controversial immigration plan, telling Fox News’ Bill O'Reilly that the 14th Amendment — which guarantees citizenship to all people “born or naturalized in the United States,” including children whose parents came to the country illegally — is unconstitutional.
“It’s not going to hold up in court,” Trump said on The Factor Tuesday.
On Sunday, the Republican frontrunner released his formal plan for immigration reform, calling for a wall across the southern border to be paid for by Mexico, the defunding of so-called sanctuary cities and the “mandatory return of all criminal aliens” to their home countries — including so-called birthright citizens protected by the 14th Amendment.
“We’re going to keep the families together, but they have to go,“ Trump said on NBC’s Meet the Press.
“What happens is, they’re in Mexico, they’re going to have a baby, they move over here for a couple of days, they have the baby,” Trump told O’Reilly. "When people are illegally in the country, they have to go.”
quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: [QUOTE]Donald Trump is defending his controversial immigration plan, telling Fox News’ Bill O'Reilly that the 14th Amendment — which guarantees citizenship to all people “born or naturalized in the United States,” including children whose parents came to the country illegally — is unconstitutional.
How can the actual Constitution be unconstitutional?
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quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: [QUOTE]Donald Trump is defending his controversial immigration plan, telling Fox News’ Bill O'Reilly that the 14th Amendment — which guarantees citizenship to all people “born or naturalized in the United States,” including children whose parents came to the country illegally — is unconstitutional.
How can the actual Constitution be unconstitutional?
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Some constitutional scholars actually sat down and came up with a comprehensive writeup about how you could selectively reinterpret the writing of the amendment to create a stateless people.
It's kind of dry but I can't deny their logic is essentially on point.
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quote:Originally posted by Samprimary: Some constitutional scholars actually sat down and came up with a comprehensive writeup about how you could selectively reinterpret the writing of the amendment to create a stateless people.
It's kind of dry but I can't deny their logic is essentially on point.
This is brilliant. We could apply it to a lot of policies.
Zero tolerance drug policies. I'm for them. I mean, the one problem is that we should probably have some, you know, some tolerance for certain low level offenses. That's only fair.
And I'm pro life too. I mean, you know, of course women should have a choice whether they get an abortion or not, but I am against giving them that right. But they should definitely still have that right.
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Donald trump is such an amazingly and brazenly incompetent, bigoted, and unqualified candidate with such markedly disastrous ideas for governance that I could bet money that both ron and lisa unironically support him
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Never ever mention those names! Don't you realize when you do, those people who have been banned rise and inhabit new alternate bodies and roam the these halls, trolling and screaming....trolling and screaming!111!one!
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Hmmm. I feel like one of those people might be swayed by the alternatives, but that might be the one you are thinking of.
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quote:Originally posted by BlackBlade: Never ever mention those names! Don't you realize when you do, those people who have been banned rise and inhabit new alternate bodies and roam the these halls, trolling and screaming....trolling and screaming!111!one!
No, no, the names that aren't to be mentioned are malanthrop and Clive.
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Jeb Bush tries to explain that he's really not racist against Hispanics when he talks about anchor babies, because it's really Asians who are the problem.
quote:What I was talking about was the specific case of fraud being committed, where there's organized efforts -- and frankly it's more related to Asian people coming into our country -- having children in that organized effort, taking advantage of a noble concept, which is birthright citizenship.
quote:Republican pollster Frank Luntz peered into the GOP’s id by questioning Donald Trump supporters about his appeal — and he found the results terrifying. ... Luntz showed the participants recordings of Trump insulting women, bragging about himself and reversing his previous positions on a variety of topics — but the vast majority said they only liked him more after watching the videos.
“Nothing disqualifies Trump,” Luntz said afterward.
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