No, really, has anyone even heard about the book lately? I sure hope it's past the title-brainstorming phase...
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how about.... "Healing Ender"? I like the idea of that name because i suppose during that book Ender would still feel some remorse for the buggers and all and losing his brother, it could be the title if Ender is going to be talking about his tragic childhood alot. -just a thought
quote:Originally posted by tms: I considered What Ender Did Next to be reasonably amusing as a false submission.
I have sat for a while with Ender's Name because it could explore how he intends to redefine what he is known for. And it makes us ask questions.
My brain has fallen on Ender's Reach, Ender Reaches.
wouldnt that imply that ender was in hell? if so it sounds good again if hes feeling remorse in this book about his past
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Ender Reaches has too much finality and weakness, it sucks what was I thinking. Ender's Reach however can take on multiple meanings. Surely the guilt over the formics will be present in this book, so he has reached a point, and as we know he reaches out at some point for a new path. Reach can also mean a stretch of coastline, among other things. And that's enough of that.
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my friends thought if these, they suck sEnder blEnder Ender:the next F***ing book Ender goes to this one place and meets this one person and stuff happens i know what ender did last summer Ender:never ask your friends to think of titles
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I'm not sure if you've chosen a title, but I was thinking, perhaps use of "Ender" at this point is no longer appropriate. How about "Andrew, the Stranger"? "Ender, the stranger" wouldn't be bad except that the name Ender is too highly recognized. Using Andrew would be appropriate given the timing of the book. Just a thought!
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I like your idea, personally. The publishers, however, are looking for a title with the word "Ender" in it. Apparently sells better. They like the recognition.
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Do you think it would be interesting to write this book as a memory Ender can stop thinking about, or maybe even as Ender writing a book about this woman and child? If you like this I think some good title good titles would be: Ender's Recollection Ender Revisited Ender's Past Ender - A Story Untold
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I am with you on Ender's Fender Bender, it's a title you could never forget. Unlike Robert Jordan's. I mean can anyone actually remember any of the names of those books?
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How bout simply the name of the planet he heads to. Idk about the rest of you bout all the titles w. Ender in them were makin my head hurt
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if there were a word for a 'shadow of a shadow' or 'son of a shadow' those could apply (obviously can't tell how it'd sound)...
Ender's New Shadow obviously not... Ender Venture ...no.. Vender ...lol
it's probably not appropriate I talk about why I'd like the name Ender's Move , but erase this if you must... anyways I think Ender's Move would work by allowing for at least a double reference: Ender is still moving from planet to planet, and he will make a 'move' when he understands the truth behind Randi's son (I don't intend to usurp you OSC...I think that part is obvious, that's all) That's the best I can think of for now....
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Lender has the word/name Ender in it. So does... e-nerd. Seriously though, I hope this thread doesn't end up like Begging the Question. Not that that thread was/is annoying, but it would be for this one.
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You probably won't see this because it's all the way down but why not something like "The last Vouage of Ender" (pardon the spelling) if this is his last vouage before is is the first (official) Speaker of the Dead?
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There were quite a few funny bits to this thread that I'm sad that people aren't seeing because it's become so ginormous. So I went through and tried to pick them out. It wouldn't my me too sad if others chose to try to emulate some of the funnier, playful parts of this thread instead of suggesting titles for a book that most likely already has had a title chosen on a thread that few read anymore. Just saying is all.
I remembers more from OSC, but memory is a strange thing. Anyway, here's what I snipped (which is not to say that I found all of these funny, but other's tastes aren't necessarily mine).
He's not Ender, He's My Brother
Ender's Fame (Ender hires a publicist to try to get people to stop calling him "Ender the Xenocide" and is disappointed that they start calling him "Ender the Cold-blooded Killer of Children and Misunderstood Aliens")
Ender's Vame (in which Ender keeps using words that no one else has ever heard of and nobody understands, until at the end of the novel there is not a single recognizable avink mudge popesy buh groonvondle)
I'm Afraid I've Got Some Bad News, Ender: You're In Space
The Mask of Ender (he goes around slashing giant W's into people's clothing and upholstery)
I'm Ok, You're Ender
My Parents Sent Me to Battle School and All I Got Was This Lousy Xenocide
Ender's Five O'Clock Shadow
Knight Ender (Ender survives an assasination attempt that everyone thinks kills him. He comes back, with a new face and a souped up spaceship with an AI he calls "Jane" (or KAMA, whichever). They fight crime.)
A Comedy of Enders (Ender's parents tell him that he has a twin brother that they shot into space for some reason and he sets out in pursuit. Upon reaching one planet, he is suprised to find everyone there treats him like they know him. At the same, his twin brother, Bob, is being hassled by people who keep saying they gave him things or he promised to do something for him. Hilarity ensues, until the two brothers meet, reconcile, and open up a donut shop.)
Dr. Valentine and Mr. Peter (Before Ender's two halves got created when he jumped out of space-time, they showed up as the result of Ender's mad experiments in separating out the good genes from the bad ones. Audio version done by Julia Roberts affecting an awful Scottish brogue.)
"Ender: The Sequel Before the Sequel that isn't Quite Parallel"
I'm partial to A Book About Ender! Or, The Publishers Want Me to Reassure You That Ender's in This Book.
Ender is the Knight
Love Me Ender
Rear Ender (subtitle; accidental tourist?)
Game Ender (he beat the Hive Queen at the buzzer? Or, I guess that might go along with Rear Ender too... Does the Hive Queen have a buzzer? Hmmm...
Ender's High Score
Ender Shrugged
. . . Just because I couldn't resist... Ender's Same -- this could be great -- the story of Ender's Game told from the perspective of one of the other characters!!! How's that for a cool idea? Next one could be Ender's Replay... <insert sheepish apology here to OSC>
Neither an Ender nor a Borrower Be
Ender Rex Ender at Colonus Valentigone
The Planet-hopping Xenocidal Maniac
Wiggin Out!
All Good Things Come to an Ender Terms of Enderment
You know, Endercrine Gland is really a good one given the teen years, etc. A follow-up could be the Enderogenous Zone, in which Ender discovers that everyone's gate is down.
This is the Series That Never End(er)s (It just goes on and on my Friend(er)s
Two Wiggins, a Beanlet, and a Pizza Place (self-explanatory)
Much Ado About Ender (The Beanlet, who being a bastard is necessarily evil, tricks Ender into thinking that Valentine was conspiring to ally with the Hive Queen to destroy the human race. In reality, it was a man in a dress and wig wearing a name tag that said "Hi, my name is Valentine" and a hologram of a supermagnified ant. Valentine pretends to die when Ender accuses her and...yeah, that's all I got).
The Illustrated Ender (After a night out drinking with his old Battleschool chums, Ender wakes up with tattoos covering his entire body. Then he walks around and tells people the stories of what his tattoos are about, but gets arrested when he refuses to put his pants back on during a particularly involved story about a helium balloon, a sad clown, and the girl who loved them both.)
Foundation and Ender (The expanding Earth colonization comes across a star system full of people talking about their great Encyclopedia and trying get the colonists to worship atomic energy as a god. After starring at them quizzically for a little bit, then exlaiming "Oooh wow. You've got atomic energy!" Ender Doctor Devices them out of existence, bringing a different meaning to the name of the planet Terminus.)
Dr. Strangebean or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Molecular Disruptor Device
In which we get to meet Ender again and everything that was unclear is explained
Ender - Won't You?
Ender 90210 (Ender and Valentine travel from stodgy old earth to the hip, happening part of the galaxy and become part of an ensemble of teens who are overburdened with adventures and romantic entanglements. Note: The book would have to prominently feature at least one of the Card children, but only because he or she tried out for the role under an assumed name.)
A Farewell to Ender (Ender becomes an abulance driver. He falls in love with a nurse and vows to only speak in short, declarative sentences. Later, there's a bullfight. In the rain.)
Your Own....Personal....Ender (As part of his newly formed depressing rock group, Ender becomes someone to hear your prayers; someone who cares.)
Could you imagine what it would be like to play like Monopoly with post EG Ender.
Ender - A 5 and a 4. Okay, that takes me past Go so I collect $200 and Dear God I hope I'm not wiping an alien species!!!!! Valentine - For Pete's sake Ender, I've told you over and over that this is just a game. Honest. No one's getting killed. You playing as a freaking top hat! Get over it. E - Okay, okay. Sorry. I get carried away sometimes. V - No problem. So you landed on Baltic Ave. Do you want to buy it? E - Hehehehehehehehe. No! That's just what Graff would be expecting. V - Graff's not here. It's just you and me. We're in the depths of space, playing a simple board game. Settle down already. E - Sorry. Sorry. V - Okay. A 2 and ... darn a 6. That puts me on your Boardwalk and it's got 4 houses on it. That clears me out. You win. E - Ahhhhh! I've destroyed the galactic economy. Trillions of people will starve to death. Anarchy will reign. The streets will run with blood. V - Sweet Jebus Ender. It's just a game. Trust me. E - *deep breaths* Okay. Okay. I've got it under control now. V - When are you going to go out and get laid already? E - Not for 3000 years. <beat> E - Sometimes I think the computer is talking to me. Remember, the enemy's hotel is down! V - Dear Lord.
Ender Few Over the Cuckoo's Nest Raiders of the Lost Ender 12 Angry Enders [Confused] Saving Ender The Man Who Shot Ender Who's Afraid of Ender Wiggin? Being Ender From Ender to Valentine Ender Conquers the Martians
Ender= MC Squared
Ender Becomes an Angsty Little Bastard
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get it the son of Achilles as in Achilles heel his son could be his Achilles heel
I thought it was clever Also not to argue with anything Orson Scott Card has said but I think it would be cool to Write Shadows in Flight first cause I'm a little selfish and want to see how the stories tie together.
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OmG! Thank you all so much for such an amusing thread! So far "Crouching Bean, Hidden Ender" is my favorite.
I would really love it though if the book was from Valentine's perspective, that would really make an interesting read. And perhaps the best title I've heard so far for that would be something along the lines of:
Ender & Valentine
What expresses the opposite of shadow? What's something that represents what Val stands for in Ender's eyes, in the way Bean stood for his shadow...
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So, well, is it Ender in Exile? Or something else? I'm a bit confused, hadn't checked the Hatrack for a whiile....
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You know what Geekazoid99, get over it. It's not sad, it's amusing and at the same time gives food for thought.
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Ender's Light... sounds like Ender had serious problems with electricity. Well, he hadn't Jane at that time, so I can definitely see the line it could take :]
What about Ender Nolight? (some totally new Ender. The history has lied to you all. It never will be Ender the Xenocide, nor is his name Andrew Wiggin. He's Ender Nolight. )
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I didn't mean it like that, obviously. The world would be very sad indeed, if not for kidding...
As for Ender's light, Ender with no electricity, lol, I meant Val, not Jane. But it still doesn't work quite right.
Sorry if this has already been posted, I haven't read the entire thread yet, but how does 'Ender's Equinox' sound?
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(it might be about a group of former Battleschoolers who are trapped in a Cube moving through space, Ender decides to take a mission and as a right Ace Rimmer-like hero plans to take them out but when he realizes they can perfectly sort out the situation because they were BS, he commits suicide... we might be told that all that followed was actually a post-mortal thing of dream dreamt by an insane Jane
Oh, forget about it.
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quote:Originally posted by Presences: On a side note, Orson Scott Card is a very entertaining speaker. I was only able to listen to him for about 30 minutes, but found him very intelligent, kind, thoughtful, knowledgeable, and funny.
Oooh, that's awesome. I always thought he'd be like that, without reading interviews or going online.
About the name thing, I only skimmed through half the posts, but there are a memorable several. I'll list ones I'm thinking of off the top of my head and they might be ones that have already been posted.
... I keep thinking about the child. Wonder if it's a boy or girl, hm. It's just so exciting; after reading so much about the Battle Schoolers' futures and their reaching adultood, it comes back to another child. Or the only one who remained a child after the others grew into their twenties.
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Can you get away with just having "Ender" in a subtitle? Something like the following -
Choice The Further Adventures of Ender
Badminton An Ender Wiggin Story
Martian Ender Groks in Fullness
If you must follow the rules, how about these? - Ender's Impression Ender's Madness (maybe the woman's very smart child can practice psychological warfare on Ender) Ender's Strength Ender's Power Ender's Quest Ender's Transition Ender's Hold Ender's Step Ender's Will Ender's Challenge Ender's Work Ender's Peace Ender's Reason Ender's Value Ender's Paradigm Ender's Shift Ender's Paradigm Shift Ender's Need Ender's Razor (wouldn't it be cool if OSC coined a phrase like Ockham's Razor or Dyson Sphere that would forever be immortalized in the dictionary?) Ender's Declaration Ender's Resolve Posts: 1 | Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:Originally posted by blue zinthos: Ender's Razor(wouldn't it be cool if OSC coined a phrase like Ockham's Razor or Dyson Sphere that would forever be immortalized in the dictionary?)
That would be awesome!
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Is he credited for coining the term "Xenocide"? It may not be in the dictionary or anything, but I've seen/heard it used in other places besides the Ender books.
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That was a good one, Oobie. Really, it hanged around E all the time, and by the time he's wandering the universe as mentioned in the starting post, he would probably feel about it very intensively...
(sorry, this is a brainstorming thread, not for any "take it-leave it"- I just couldn't resist when I see something that I find not only amusing, but also very fitting)
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I still like the idea of Ender's Penance. By the time he would arrive at the planet many years will have gone by. So once he got there they probably would be calling him Ender the Xenocide. He probably would be guilt ridden because for him it would have only been what 2-3 weeks since he met the queen and sent out his copy of Hive Queen and the Hegemon.
<Need to go back and reread the end of Ender's Game, and check the light speed compared to the years again.>
Jut one main question though, would they still be on that planet when Ender got there? I think it was 1 week = 50 years. So depending on where the two planets are in relation to each other they might be on that planet together, though more likely they would meet on a third planet.
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