I like the word gambit because of all the connotation it offers reminding me of Ender himself.
From Mariam-Webster: gam·bit 1 : a chess opening in which a player risks one or more pawns or a minor piece to gain an advantage in position 2 a (1) : a remark intended to start a conversation or make a telling point (2) : TOPIC b : a calculated move : STRATAGEM
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Well, I'm new, but an opportunity not to be missed to add to a potential title, here's my bits:
-Tales of Ender -Bean's Shadow (violates the rules, but ins't the book more about the baby?) -Ender Speaker -Ender's Legacy -Ender's Travels (a little nod to another well know work ) -Ender's Legend -Ender and Valentine -Ender and the Giant
Okay, that's all I've got! One thing to add. Is there any connection between the people of Path and Anton's Key? I've been wondering that for awhile. Is it possible that Randi and the baby were one of the original colonists of that world?
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The people of Path were descended from Japanese (or Chinese, cant remember)people. Bean is Greek.
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The people of Path were descended from Japanese (or Chinese, cant remember)people. Bean is Greek.
Right, but I've just started Xenocide again and the description of the people of Path seem an awful lot like Bean without the shortened lifespan. A people with the super intelligence, but without the excellerated growth. The government then created another defect to keep them from taking over the universe that the people of path turned into a sign that such people were of the godspoken. What I am wondering is if the cure was found, but Bean was never called home because those that found it either:
a: did not know that he existed or b: because they did not know him and did not want an uncontrolled, hyperintelligent, battle-hardened soldier returning to a world(?) that he doesn't know or doesn't know him. That they did not want coming back and trying to take over.
Or something like that. That was my full thought.
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I always think of emigre when I see this thread (Ender the Emigre or some such... I'm not very creative). My boyfriend says, though, that word is usually used in a pejorative way in the US Posts: 944 | Registered: Jun 2001
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I suppose Mr. Card isn't reading 20 pages of names-to-be, but heres my take anyways.
Ender's Communion.
Ender and the Hive Queen are going to be together, and I suppose he's going to stablish their relationship in this book, where he may come to terms with what he did, and what he will do from "now".
Communion : the sharing or exchanging of intimate thoughts and feelings, especially when the exchange is on a mental or spiritual level.
Also, in a sense, he's going to make his communion, accepting the Hive Queen as a "companion" and a responsability to care for.
Then, there's another sense of communion : a relationship of recognition and acceptance. This could relate with his re-encounter with his past in the form of the woman & child.
When Mr. Card speaks of "coming together", I take it not just to the fisical but to the spiritual. In this case, I find Communion works for both, giving a double sense of sorts, and allowing the title to reflect Ender's internal "growth" towards the Speaker for the Dead.
Not to speak of a religious word wich may attract even further attention (sales :-P), given the times we're living :-)
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Just a public service announcement that the name Ender in Exile was already picked. I don't know who came up with it. Of course, I may just be a very humorless person who doesn't realize that this is an ongoing parlor game.
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Yeah, I think this thread is just for fun now. Although, I thought "Ender in Exile" was something of a working title. I personally think that "Ender's Exile" sounds better for the final product. That is, unless the next 2 books are meant to be known as the "in" series: "Ender in Exile", "Shadows in Flight". *shrug*.
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On the off-chance that Mr. Card is still reading this thread (and I hope you are!), I just wanted to put in my own two-cent's worth:
First, I had previously read Mr. Card's comments regarding the timeline in which the new novel would be set, and it occurred to me that Ender will most likely be over the subjective age of 21 in that frame - therefore, Jane, in some incarnation, will most likely have already made herself known to him (as the "investment" program was to contact him the first time he logged into the nets upon or after his 21st birthday in subjective time). It would be difficult at best to suspend disbelief enough to allow for Ender to have arrived at Shakespeare colony, to get it self-sufficient, find the last remaining Hive Queen, write both the Hive Queen and The Hegemon and then decide to leave for other worlds before turning 21. This could be an advantage, as it would allow us to see the development of the close relationship between Ender and Jane; as it stands right now, all we see is that these bonds are there, and we just have to accept it. I think some of the misunderstandings and growing-pains in such a relationship could prove to be good material.
Also, one avenue to explore is Ender's transformation into Peter at the end of Children of the Mind. Now there is FTL travel, as well as the possibility of creating "miracle" viruses which can change a genetic structure. If it happens not to be possible to tell the story of Bean in the new book (which might be the case, as I didn't get the feeling that Bean's story would be one of the central themes to the new book), then perhaps another "Ender" book could involve the newly-human Jane informing Peter/Ender of the previously-unknown ship carrying Bean and his children (let's face it, at that close to the speed of light, the only way they're going to age is if they slowed down for some reason, which they'd only do if a cure had been found and they were heading back). Ela and Quara could construct another version of the Path virus to modify the DNA structure in Bean and company...you all get the picture.
Of course, this could then allow Bean to re-team with Peter (albeit a Peter who embodied Ender's traits and abilities - and a few memories, I would bet) to accomplish the goal "Peter" set for himself in Xenocide: to become Hegemon again, to right the wrongs and to give every colony world an equal voice in government. Not to mention, trying to convey Bean's incredulity when he comes face-to-face with Peter....3000+ years in the future!
Okay, that's my piece. Other than one last thing:
the new book? How does Ender's Chrysalis sound?
After all, this is to deal with the metaphysical metamorphosis of Ender Wiggin (Hero/Savior) to Andrew Wiggin (Speaker for the Dead/Xenocide).
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Well I just registered here today and I haven't even finished the series yet. I read Ender's Game my freshmen year of high school and I'm a senior now an have decided to go back and read the entire series. At the moment I'm working on finishing Shadow Puppets, which I should finish today or tommorow and then I got to get ahold of a copy of Shadow of the Giant. But I like the idea Wry1 had about Bean actually being in lightspeed travel and that he could have his genetic problem fixed, but as I said I don't know if that's possible as I was guessing that Shadow of the Giant was sorta a conclusion novel for the Shadow set, But at the same time it will be interesting either way just to see what happens with Petra and the child. An if Ender was to help Petra and the child, it could be like Ender returning the favor that Petra gave him as start when he came into battle school. Also Bean showed friendship to Ender through thier years together. Maybe something like Ender's Return of Favor. That may have already been said somewhere, I didn't take the time to go back and read all 20 pages of posts just the first couple of few.
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This would be *after* Ender writes the Hegemon and the Hive Queen, correct? Assuming he has left his fist colony, and therefore has already spoken with Peter?
In that case, something alluding to Ender's falling into universal disgrace?
Ender's Shame Ender's Age
Or perhaps relating to the growing sense that he is a *father* as such to all of humanity? As was referenced at one point?
Ender's Sons Father Ender
The Guardian Eva Scrye
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Please forgive me if these were already suggested. I'm too tired to read all 20 pages.
Shadows Past Ender
Ender: A Crossing of Shadows Ender: Crossing a Shadow Ender: A Crossing of Paths Ender: A Convergence of Paths
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I haven t read the SHadow s Series, main reason is because it s Bean the main character in it, and it focuses mainley on Earth and events there. I miss the Ender character, the one that became a father to Novinha s kids, a simple man but baring the world s sins on he s back. I miss the older Ender more then the young one, more then Peter, Valentine, Miro, they re kids, they re kids kids, and so on.
I want Ender back. In my opinion, SPeaker of the Dead it s the masterpiece. The other books are superb, but none of them caught me so much as this one did and Xenoxide. Superb.
Make a sequel of Ender s Saga, please. Children of the Mind let so many unanswered questions, allthou`, i missed the ENder from Speaker of the Dead or even from Xenocide.
Please don t let it be ENder Spaceman, or Ender Reloaded, it just doesen t feels like Ender s Saga.
ENder: New Hope Ender: Bindings ENder: Event Horizon - maybe the child could speak with Ender like the "bugs" did with him, so there s an unseen connection between them, wich no one can see or breakthru just like an event horizons are in our universe...
Please i beg of a sequel with Ender the main character again... i always looked up to this character, it sounds crazy i know, but it s the kinda of man i would wanted to be "when i grow up" Posts: 3 | Registered: Dec 2005
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I like 'A Valentine for Ender' too, but for me it sounds like a good title for a short story, not a novel...
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There's a bit of snafu over timelines and while I know OSC is aware of the situation I don't know how he's going to solve it. (I eagerly await the next book to figure out how he does solve it.) You can search back for my user name on this side of the forum and find my rants on the topic, which are documented chapter and paragraph from several of the Ender saga.
See, Investment Counsellor happens when Ender comes of age on Sorcelledolce. Problem is, that in the original EG if you do the math, he's far older and has already come of age before he leaves the first colony.
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Hmm, I think Ender's Seance, a book explaining how Ender Speaks to the dead--the introduction to Enderverse. Posts: 234 | Registered: Oct 2005
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