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Or to fit with OSC's ideology: "Ender the Gender-Bender Offender." But I don't think Professor, Revrend, Dr, Sir, Earl, Master, Mister Card would go for assonance.
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i think someone has already commented and suggested that Mr. Card no longer reads this thread anymore. i still am determind to put in my 2 cents...if it's even that. On top of that, i tried to read through all the posts but once i got to page 10, i just skimmed and read only what Mr. Card actually said, so if i repeat something, i'm sorry, but i have a very short attention span for stuff like that. Now, to my comment.
At this point in Ender's life he should have lost his prestige of savior for the human race and has become Ender of the Xenocide. This being said, he is either starting to hide or has been in hiding for a brief time now. Because of this, i do like these few titles that have been suggested previously: Ender's Burden Ender's Legacy Ender's Demons Ender: New Beginning Leaving Ender Ender En Passant Ender's Exile
I really like Ender En Passant (i'm not going to find who said it, but i think their explaination was really good.) But this title would allude to that transitional period that from ender to speaker/andrew. But because this is an awkward maybe a different approach could be seen. If Ender is still famous for saving humanity, but the hive queen and hegimon are out, and ender either foresees the animosity that will come to him if he continues to be Ender he will be already trying to hide his path. (i know this is confusing, but maybe to someone it will make sence). So Ender is hiding, but with the death of the hegimon things on earth aren't too great. and with the rise of starways congress, someone is needed to head this. who better than the hegimon's brother who also happened to save the world (yes a complete reversal of why peter was able to become ruler). Not only this, but Bean's child knows that ender is somewhere. Achilles II will be out for the same thing that people are wanting to give to Ender if they can find him. So the world would be looking for Ender as well as Achilles.
(since this is confusing) In a nut shell:
Ender is still popular for his saving humanity Ender sees that his popularity will decline once the hive queen is more widely known. Ender decides to not be ender anymore. People want someone to rule humanity (either hegimon or head of starways congress) Achilles II wants this power and has a grudge against ender already, which is even more complicated to explain briefy. Everyone is looking for ender.
Hence my suggestion for the title:
Finding Ender
Of course though, this would make for a long book because my brief summary of what i think might happen takes forever.
Some other titles that i liked but i thought would be better for the books that follow Children of the Mind:
Hmmm... y'know, it occurs to me that there's something that no one has hit on yet (that I've seen). The new novel, as described, takes place after Ender founds the colony and before he begins to reconnect to the characters in Speaker for the Dead. It's the beginning of a long period of time when he draws himself away from humanity and isolates himself with Valentine to skip across the light years. So why not address that action in the title and suggest the as-of-yet-unknown plot complications that could lead to why he might decide to so dramatically lose touch with almost all of his personal connections?
So...keeping this in mind, my suggestion for the title of the new novel would be:
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I too just started reading this thread, actually, this is my first post on this side, I'm trying to branch out (and find more threads to post on in a vain effort to post even half as much as Tante Shvester).
So, just some random ideas:
Enter Ender Ender's Legacy (though I think I saw this one from someone else, sorry) Ender's Lament Ender's Guide to Traveling the Galaxy on Less Than 20 Dollars a Day Ender's Ave (Ave Ender) Ender Wigs Out The Future Past of Ender Wiggin (or something shorter, Ender's Future Past) Ender's Exile
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Looks like the naming game draws considerable interest, so here's a few more:
Ender Holistic A Time for Ender Ender's Love Ender's Time Finding Ender Ender's World Ender Restarting Beginning Ender Ender Quest
I dunno...this could be interesting. If OSC uses one of the titles mentioned on the nearly twenty pages of posts, will that person get an aknowledgement in the book??
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What about "Skipping Stones"? with the double allusion to Ender & Val skipping from planet to planet, and also to "The Worthing Saga"
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i hope mr card is still reading this thread because i'd really like to know,
in this new novel will things be more cleared up? as to how exactly Randi got the baby and what Volesco (sp?), if he orchestrated it, wanted to happen with the baby?
sorry if these questions sound confusing i'm not sure how to word what i want to say. but i'd like to hear more about Randi in general and her whole story from when she got the embryo implanted to how she finally left earth
Also, Randi having Bean's and Petra's son and having another novel about him sepererated entirely from Bean or Petra just has a strange, sad feel to it, but it's one of the things i like about your books
sorry if this is confusing as well but im not sure how to say it either and i was wondering if anyone else felt this way
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Ender to Andrew -Ender to Speaker (Something showing the transformation from Ender to Speaker Andrew) Enderology Speaker for the Bean Ender's New Bean
Or be really origional: Ender's Game II (ha ha) ----- I like the "Ender das treffen" title, but I don't think it would be appealing to people not interested in german. If you want to translate, translate it to Stark Posts: 1 | Registered: Aug 2005
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What about Ender's Progeny or Ender's Children?
I know biologically speaking they aren't his children, but everyone who was at the final battles fighting with Ender before he left, all of them were affected by him, everyone in his jeesh. There's nothing they wouldn't do for him, and their lives were forever colored by his influence.
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If there's one title that hasn't yet been named in this 19 pages of eye strain goodness, it would be the super copyright infringement Rurouni Ender. Just like my most favorite moving picture show series in the whole wide world. Rurouni means something like wandering or something like that.
lol or Ender Battousai. lol Spl-Ender!
Um Ender: Humanity's Savior, Humanity's Shame ?
I like The Ender cuz its so reverent like totally dude.
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...Wait a second. This is after Ender finds the hive-queen, but before... So...
Ender's Ascent Ender's Progeny Ender's Descendants Second Life of Ender Ender's Second Hope (the first being the hive queen, perhaps this book includes something else?) Ender's Vision Visions of the End (...) Ender and Hive queen Hive and Ender Death of Ender (referring to the change of Ender into a pseudomyth) Ender's Grave
Ah well. Good luck with coming up with something appropriate.
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I just got back from a book signing at Deseret Book in downtown SLC. I heard Orson state in his very intellectual, fervent voice, that the title might be “Ender’s Exile.” OK, so he may have said “Ender in Exile”. I was only standing 12 feet away from him. Must be my ADD. Sorry! I really cannot remember. I just made is a point to remember that Exile was the last word in the title. Nevertheless, I am 99.9 percent positive he said one of those above-mentioned titles.
On a side note, Orson Scott Card is a very entertaining speaker. I was only able to listen to him for about 30 minutes, but found him very intelligent, kind, thoughtful, knowledgeable, and funny.
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I haven't posted here since about 1998 or '99 - how the heck did I remember my password?
Wish I'd seen this post before. I'm sure this is an old thread, long since discarded by any reputable members of this forum, and I don't know if anyone suggested this, (because I wasn't about to read 19 pages worth of posts), but I have a late suggestion...
Ender's Skeleton
Huh? Huh? See, it refers to Buggers, because bugs have endoskeletons; it's also about Ender having everything stripped away (all his old beliefs and such, as he travels about trying to find meaning), it hints that you'll find what's truly at the "core" of Ender, it brings up thoughts of "Skeletons in the Closet," which I'm sure the book would be full of, it sounds spooky and dark, which is "cool," and once it gets stuck in your head, you won't forget it.
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Last I knew he still hasn't decided on a name, but is only using 'Ender in Exile' as a working title. Something to call the project.
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I just thought of something presumably, the antagonist in the story would be the unknown child of Bean? Wouldn't a proper title somehow link Ender and this Child of Bean's?
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Thing is, we don't know yet what role Achilles Jr. plays in the book, so you can't really suggest a "proper" title with what we've got. Theoretically, OSC could use the character in the title, but he hasn't given it away if he will or not.
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I kinda like Uncle Ender! Ender's Befriender lol Ender's Endeavoring ?
Why does it HAVE to have Ender in it? I mean, It wont really mean much to someone who hasn't read Ender's game, and if they liked Ender's Game, or any other OSC book enough to come back to his section in Barns and Noble.. AND it will obviously mention that it is a sequel (or semi-parallel-sequelly thingy Book) Then WHY does it HAVE to say ENDER in it? Did Speaker for the Dead sell worse because it didnt say Ender the Speaker for the Dead?
How about Beginners Game? Or title it after the boy... ect...
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