quote: Although I'd figure $10,000 was a starting point and negotiate up. But I don't think I could manage to cry, so I guess I'm not qualified.
I would shave my, or anyone else's, head for 10K. I would also shave any other part of my, or anyone's body. I would cry, sing, dance, laugh, or babble incoherently while doing so.
I would also build a garage with the money. Although I think mine would cost 20K.
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quote:Luckily, I noted that in my post way back a couple of pages ago, where it was first referenced.
Crud, and I specifically checked to see if anyone else had said so, and didn't see it. I failed. [hangs head]
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Well, I'm not saying I wouldn't do it for the $10K. But if they are offering that, I would certainly see if I could get more. Like you said, a really nice garage could go over budget. . .
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ElJay, if you're really having trouble with the crying part while you're having your head shaved, for $1000 I will hide off-camera and punch you in the kidneys.
$500? Okay, $250.
$100 and a case of Dr Pepper?
Fine, fine, just the case of Dr Pepper?
Maybe just for a can. But that's only because you're family.
Some jerks just have low self esteem and are self destructive. Some nice guys are perfectly secure with themselves and don't care what anyone thinks of them.
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quote:Originally posted by Lyrhawn: I don't take the first two for a given.
Some jerks just have low self esteem and are self destructive. Some nice guys are perfectly secure with themselves and don't care what anyone thinks of them.
Oh, I don't disagree. However, perhaps I should say that it is more likely that jerks don't care what other people think of them- especially if it may mean dissolving a friendship.
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quote:However, perhaps I should say that it is more likely that jerks don't care what other people think of them- especially if it may mean dissolving a friendship.
I wholeheartedly disagree. I think it's far more likely that the jerks care a LOT about what other people think of them - what they conceive of as a positive image is just different.
Jerks do, however, appear more cavalier about it, which might be what you were getting at.
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Great googly-moogly, y'all have been some busy little beavers while I was at work today. This thread had jumped and rejoined the track so many times I don't even know where we are. I'd like to rejoin the conversation, but it's hard to know what would be relevant. So I'll just sit back and see where else it goes.
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I didn't manage to read all 6 pages, but I've thought about this subject a lot, being one of the 'nice guys'. And what I've come to conclude, without going it into a great deal, is that the good girls are the girls who are attracted to the good guys. :-). That provides an out for me anyways. I tell myself that if a girl isn't attracted to nice guys (as in me), she probably isn't mature enough to be worth my trouble. And I know, that has tons of holes in it and doesn't make a whole bunch of sense, but it makes me feel better. :-)
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Oh, and I would totally shave my head for 10K. I'd wear a lot of hats--my face is too German to get away with the shaved head look, since I would look like a Nazi skinhead--but it would grow back quickly enough.
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I should've thrown a big "I'm Straight" clause in there, but I figured the Myspace comment above sufficiently clarified my intentions.
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See, I would really rather have my hair and a funny story than $10,000 and a video on the internet of me crying and some guy saying "You like that? Yeaaa baby!" while shaving my head.
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What is wrong with you people? Ignoring perfectly good kittens in favor of your perverted double entendres. Y'all oughta pray Jebus doesn't strike you down where you stand, or make you watch Catwoman or something.
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Chreese, I will let Kat speak for herself. I guess she'd already left work and her internet access today when I posted that. I'm sure she'll inform me as to exactly how off the mark I am. (but I think the only one she'd disagree with would be #4)
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Kat is sooooooooooo sweet. I can't believe it sometimes, but I feel it inside my heart. She is totally awesome and that's a fact. She is fast, smooth, cool, strong, powerful, and sweet.
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I'm late to the thread, but I'd like to comment I do not and have never found the Bad Guy thing attractive. Not even House, though I love Hugh Laurie elsewhere.
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I think, like AJ said a few pages back, that it's just hard to know whether someone's a "nice guy" or a "jerk." I've met my friends' boyfriends and wondered why the hell they were with such a-holes, then later got to know the guys and realize that most of the time they're really wonderful people (and are very nice to their girlfriends). Conversely, I've had male friends who seem really nice most of the time, but when they are in relationships they treat the girls like crap.
This works the other way around, too--guys with girls who seem really sweet but are complete witches in relationships, or girls who seem really catty at first but are actually really good to and for their boys.
And of course, there are the guys who seem like jerks who really are jerks, and the guys who seem nice who really are, and the awful girls who really are awful, and the sweet girls who really are that sweet all the time.
You just never actually know at first glance.
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Aw, Banna is a sweetheart. I don't disagree at all with what she said, except number four. It was very sweet of her to say, though. Thank you.
quote:Sure there are girls out there that admire a take charge, damn the consequences kind of guy. So what? There are also lots of women that want a mate that will listen to them, value their thoughts and solicit their advice.
These are not mutually exclusive. It's possible for someone to be brave, brilliant, and kind, all at the same time.
If you'll forgive me the gushing, Matt is. He's brilliant, can usually tell what I'm feeling and if he can't, then he'll ask until he understands; he thinks I'm smart and funny, and he's brave and snarky and absolutely darling. I feel liked and respected and safe, and it isn't because of some grand guesture or an excess of polishing. It's because I think he likes me and respects me and is idealistic and trustworthy. He parks between the lines - it's so cute. And he's so smart - I respect his opinion.
I'm just saying that for all the criticism that I'm too picky or unreasonable, I'm not. If I hadn't been, I might have been dating someone who was NotMatt and trying to convince myself I was happy despite what my brain and my heart were telling me I was missing.
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btw Chreese, I'm curious, do you frequently talk to as many males in the hatrack community online via chat etc, as you do females? The number of single hatrack women you've been in contact with in the last year makes me wonder if you *were* on the prowl. And maybe you're bitter because you did end up in the "friend zone?"
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*relieved* sorry, but my antenna started twitching last night, considering how many women told me that they couldn't understand why Chreese Soup is acting so bitter and out of character, because they thought he *was* one of the Good Guys.
quote:Originally posted by JT: So my read on the whole thing is that if you're single, and a nice guy, you need to meet a girl who's smart enough, and mature enough, and secure enough to recognize you for who you are.
I don't think this is limited to nice guys, but I agree. However, it goes both ways. You have to be able to function as an individual before you can function as part of a couple. That means you need to be stable, secure, and comfortable with yourself. If you're those things, chances are you're confident, too, and that shows (which means you don't need to actively advertise it). Your significant other can support you, of course, but he or she shouldn't be your therapist.
I'm sure I'm not saying anything you don't already know -- I'm just being rather long-winded about my agreement.
quote:And if you meet a girl who appreciates you for you, do me a favor -- email me and tell me how you did it.
I used to be a doormat. The girls I dated at that time appreciated it, though obviously not forever -- and a good thing, too! In any case, after I got past the whole "doormat" thing, I wasn't sure what I wanted, so I just went with the flow and dated whoever both piqued my interest and reciprocated it. I never felt like I was putting on a persona around a girl I was dating, and in that period I can't think of any instances where a girl was clearly interested in an idealized version of me. However, my entanglements tended not to last terribly long at that time, because I was in a co-op program and had to move every four months.
I'm pretty sure it's true in the context of my current relationship ( ), but I'm not sure that my "method," insofar as I had one at all, is applicable to other situations.
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As to the whole "girls asking guys out" thing, I have to say that I've been asked out and/or propositioned in some way by a number of women, and by and large I think it's great. When I was younger I wasn't very good at handling it if I didn't reciprocate the interest, but in the general case I like being asked out and respond very positively to it. It implies assertiveness and confidence, two traits I find incredibly attractive.
Note: there's a distinction between those two traits and being overbearing or domineering, which are things I find decidedly unattractive.
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Wait . . . is this some metaphor or euphemism or reference that I'm just not getting? Or are you actually saying that it's cute that he parks his car correctly?
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Yeah, I wondered about that too. I also park my car between the lines. Why wouldn't you? And yet I've never claimed to be particularly nice or considerate -- I park between the lines because it lessens the chances of my car getting dinged by some other jerk.
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I park my car between the lines. That's what the lines are there for. I wish someone had told me years ago that was a turn-on; I could have been using that.
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Oh, sorry, just to be clear, I meant the royal "you" in my post there. I didn't mean that you didn't park your car between the lines.
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Yes, he parks his car correctly. Even if it means getting back in and making adjustments when the parking lot is half empty and there are empty spaces near the door and you're only going to be about ten minutes. It's very cute.
(In case it wasn't clear, I do NOT always park my car between the lines, but I do make an assessment as to whether not doing so will be a burden on anyone.)
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quote:Oh, sorry, just to be clear, I meant the royal "you" in my post there. I didn't mean that you didn't park your car between the lines.
Oh, I didn't interpret it as anything against my parking. I was simply agreeing with you and saying that I, too, park my car between the lines.
quote:Yes, he parks his car correctly. Even if it means getting back in and making adjustments when the parking lot is half empty and you're only going to be about ten minutes. It's very cute.
I'll be darned. I'd have never have thought of that as a particular selling point.
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