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Samprimary
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antiflouridation conspiracy is the best
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The only anti-fluoridation person I know is also anti-vax and tried very earnestly to convince me 9/11 was a conspiracy.

What are the odds?

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He also "has his suspicions" about the moon landings.
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Suh should have been fired the first time he did this.
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What's up with the thread title? "It's actually about ethics in hatrack posting"
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It's funny if you remember gamergate, especially when combined with your female attire thread, kind of brilliant.
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Must have missed gamergate... [Dont Know]
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I wish I had. I have a friend who was crazy obsessed with it. As opposed to the noncrazy kind of obsessed
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quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Must have missed gamergate... [Dont Know]

We discussed it at some length in this thread. I posted an article that summarizes the issues and controversies at hand. It works as a pretty effective introduction to it.

edit: fixed the link.

[ March 08, 2015, 04:01 AM: Message edited by: Dogbreath ]

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I just did a YouTube search on Anita Sarkeesian. Pretty much every video title that comes up is firmly anti-Anita. I briefly watched a couple. It's ugly.
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Thanks for the links
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quote:
Originally posted by Dogbreath:
The only anti-fluoridation person I know is also anti-vax and tried very earnestly to convince me 9/11 was a conspiracy.

What are the odds?

As long as they don't bomb the Soviets in order to preserve their essence. [Roll Eyes]
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I just don't understand the movement really, how entitled do you have to be to think wanting gamer culture and the games industry to be more inclusive is at all unironically a bad thing.
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Back before I met my wife I had had an idea...Virtual Porn Director...a video game that lets one control the set, wardrobe, positioning, the script, etc...with the sole purpose of separating porn from video games. I mean can't I just shot aliens without an ET tittie bar that when my character sits down it zooms in on the scantily clad dancer Mass Effect 1 & 2 (and presumably 3)? Get your porn out of my games!
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How would the existence of your game keep the content you're uncomfortable with from being included in other games?
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Make it superfluous?
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I see the flaw in my plan...it was ALWAYS superfluous
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quote:
Originally posted by Stone_Wolf_:
Back before I met my wife I had had an idea...Virtual Porn Director...a video game that lets one control the set, wardrobe, positioning, the script, etc...with the sole purpose of separating porn from video games. I mean can't I just shot aliens without an ET tittie bar that when my character sits down it zooms in on the scantily clad dancer Mass Effect 1 & 2 (and presumably 3)? Get your porn out of my games!

These kinds of games exist already, MMD is frequently used for this purpose. Not counting the plethora of Visual Novel porn games and 3D porn games and so on.

It goes like this, despite the internet existing, people still seem to like having sexual fan service in their games; so even having MORE games dedicated to just sex isn't going to satisfy that desire.

Especially when the streams cross and people I dunno, want gasp, their porn to actually have an engaging story and plot to go with it too!

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Getting a girlfriend sounds like more fun.
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You know people in relationships still watch porn right?
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You don't say. [Wink]
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pool cleaner pizza delivery co., ma'am. you ordered the hawaiian with the sink faucet fix?

*tips construction worker helmet*

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RENEGADE INTERRUPT
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title presented without comment
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For real? That's awesome.
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Link?
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Link.
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(it's the first result)
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For a 3 year old article.

Takes some of the sizzle out of it.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Samprimary:
"I think we've all been there, jobless with nothing but a bucket of hotdogs, a block of processed cheese, a van, an American flag, and a goddamn dream.

Or at least that was my initial impression. Since the campaign started, the guy has actually built his kitchen (look at the updates!), done some hotdog catering, set up his entire supply chain, and he appears to have his budget planned very well, albeit with the help of "How to Start a Hotdog Cart" eBooks. He's got a dream, man, and none of us and not even the devil himself is going to be able to stop him. Unlike a lot of crappy Kickstarters, I believe this is going to happen with or without our funding. This guy is Forrest Gump and his shrimping boat/hotdog stand might as well be built right next to the Field of Dreams. I don't mean to imply that he's an idiot, but that I admire his blind confidence and hotdog faith.

I come from Hipsterville where we only eat hotdogs ironically, as a joke, so that other people can look at us and say "Haha. That's hilarious. Let me take an Instagram of that. Imagine if you ate hotdogs and actually liked them." So this campaign touches me in ways both mystical and nostalgic. It makes me yearn for the days when I could eat bad food unironically and wear plaid because it's warm and because lumberjacks are cool, not because I'm trying to convey some dumb hidden message. Every time you eat a hotdog, you get to become a kid again for two minutes.

The hotdogs are hilarious, but I genuinely hate it when people get flak for "trying too hard." We badly need more people who try too hard. It's the most foolish insult to say, "I dislike you because I dislike effort." We are a generation of people who were told their entire lives by nurturing, caring, hippie parents they we are all geniuses. Every boy a wonderboy. Every child above average. But rare is a parent who doesn't care about test scores and IQs, but instead praises their kid only for trying and failing. Effort, man. Effort. That matters so much more than innate intelligence, than knowledge, than wit. You should try to do new things even when (hell, especially when) you think you will fail. This man is trying hard, with all his might, for an aspiration that isn't even lofty. It's humble man wanting for a reachable goal involving the most meager of foods in the tiniest of towns in the poorest of states.

Yeah, I'll be damned if I'm going to dislike a guy for trying too hard. It's apparent that he has turned to crowdfunding only because he has already put every spare dollar he owns into this business. I might not believe in the superior deliciousness of Doobie's hotdogs, but I want to believe in them. And I would eat one.

Another thing is that this appears to be a very small town where the median household income is 20 grand and the most prominent restaurant is a Subway. A hotdog stand, of all things, could affect real change there. It's a good story: The unfeeling internet hordes pulling together to fund a rural hotdog stand in Reform, Alabama. That is something I want to be part of. "Doobie's Dog House" is a name worthy of headlines. I want confused journalists to try to figure out what the **** happened, why it happened, and how they can possibly convey the idea of crowdfunding to their readers. It'll be like when CNN tries to explain memes. At the very least, this has the potential to make an entire town wonder about Something Awful. Someday, I would like to drive to Doobie's Dog House, eat a hotdog, and think of goons.

To finally answer your question about our motivations, it's definitely the third option. We are good and bad meats processed together and extruded as 6 foot tall tubes, both cynical and kind, complicated and salty. Goons are actual hotdogs. I pledged $25 for both entertainment and charity. If this works and there's a hungry Alabama goon who wants my hotdogs, they can have them. Just please take pictures so it's like a child sponsorship charity, only for meat tubes instead of impoverished children. If the Kickstarter fails, then I will have paid nothing and told a guy that I admire his efforts and his gumption."


goons power doobie's dog house (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/657642328/doobies-dog-house) to fruition

So, I contributed to this campaign and have been following Doobie on Facebook ever since. Doobie's Dog House opened last week, and has had an incredible amount of support from the local community. They had to close early on Saturday because they literally ran out of food to sell people. You can visit the Facebook Page to see some pictures of the place.

Incidentally, he's been more or less constantly harassed for half a year by people from the SA forums. Posting fake (bad) reviews of his establishment, posting racist and hateful messages on his page, and otherwise telling him he's a loser/failure/no good redneck, and disparaging him and his family. I honestly have no idea why they chose him to pick on, but I think it's despicable.

I still follow this occasionally. A year later, and Doobie's is doing very well and just hired their first employee.

Guy is also still getting harassed a lot. Fake reviews, racist comments, insults. Luckily it hasn't kept him from succeeding.

I still don't understand the ongoing hatred for this guy.

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Goons are more supporters of doobue than detractors
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I'm sure. But a search of SA and Doobie's Dog House results in lots of entitled, enraged posts about how he "scammed" SA, or what a redneck loser he is, or how betrayed they feel by him because he chose not to make his place of business (and sole source of income) "the home of the Frog Dog" after being harassed by said people. What I don't get is how you can seriously call someone who built a successful restaurant (and is now a job creator) on $14,000 in 7 months time a failure or a scam artist. I seriously doubt any of them could successfully launch a restaurant with that much money in that time frame.

Nor do I see any posts saying "hey, you know the guy did everything he set out to do, and in a pretty reasonable timeframe, right?" Just scorn. And for what, exactly? Why keep harassing the dude and trying to ruin his business? It’s not like a Kick Starter is an investment or the guy owes you anything, though if you want to drive all the way out to Reform, Alabama I’m sure he’d give you whatever crappy reward you selected. (2 free chili cheese dogs and a coke!)

(For what it's worth, I've got nothing against SA in general, and I'm sure is populated with wonderful people. I just think the... passive aggressive? relationship the forum seems to have with Doobie is sort of insane.)

[ March 29, 2015, 05:11 AM: Message edited by: Dogbreath ]

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(Star Citizen, OTOH, is now at $75 million and 3 years in...)
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many goons are more than just sort of insane. goondom can be outright insane. often times you will see goondom really getting on its own case about its own 'ironic' humor turning into profound obsessional targeting, especially in the coming of gbs 2.0 which turned general into a hive of pretty constant transphobia and other things.

per the doobie thing, i believe doobie is now one of the subject that is hellthreaded. as in: there is ONE thread where it is the only place you are allowed to discuss bullshit related to that subject.

or post chain goatse whatever

i find this an appropriate solution

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Really were we not talking about goons
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Addendum to thread title
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it is true too this is an actual conversation i had sparked by that one of the most profoundly versatile and well spoken and valuable members of the community was basically named something like "fartpump barfington" for years
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This is why it's probably not a good idea to hang on to usernames you thought were funny and/or clever as an 11 year old.
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you act as if fartpump barfington will ever not be funny
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That Fartpump MacBarfington, thank you very much.
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no, you're thinking of that show fartpump mcgillicutties: friendship is magic
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[Big Grin]
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we're adults
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Speak for yourself. I'm 11 years old and what is this?
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http://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-1/
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I did a presentation in graduate school about crypto-currencies and how they are a super duper awful idea.

Turns out I was right so far.

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I think of it actually as a super great idea in the same way that refining coca into cocaine is a super great idea, in the sense of being pharmacologically amazing and creating something with obvious applications.

It's just a matter of practical people wanting to stay as far away from those applications as possible.

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quote:
He ordered a total of six separate hits—two individually, and then a group of four more on another occasion. Three of that final group of four were only added to the contract because they were supposed roommates of the actual targeted individual, and it would be 'safer to prevent possible witnesses'. The first two hits and the main target of the group of four were all supposedly blackmailing Ulbricht for money with the threat of informing to government officials.
It was disclosed later that the last five hits, all of which were negotiated with who Ulbricht believed were the Hell's Angels, never occurred*, and were part of a scam pulled on Ulbricht. He paid roughly $650k in bitcoins for the hits, according to email transcripts. None of the targets were real individuals, and in the transcript Ulbricht even comments on how he can't find any web evidence of the existence of one, but agrees to paying for the assassination anyway.
Not much more than that has been disclosed, but the assumption is that the blackmailers he was paying to have assassinated were also the ones posing as the Hell's Angels who he was hiring for the assassinations. It's unclear whether this group were actual criminal scammers or if it was the FBI executing a sting themselves.
*The Washington Post also says that the first never occurred either, but since there is a pending Maryland trial on the matter, more details than that have yet to be released.

my word
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Soldier Disappointed to Learn Jade Helm is not a Coup

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UNDISCLOSED LOCATION, Texas- A soldier participating in Jade Helm is disappointed to learn the military is not actually imposing martial law and taking over Texas, sources confirmed.

Sergeant 1st Class James Peterson, an elite special operator taking part in one of the largest SOCOM training exercises on US soil, expressed his disappointment that Jade Helm is an actual training exercise. “I was super stoked when we got off the bird in Lubbock. I’ve been listening to Alex Jones for weeks, and it finally felt like it was really going to happen this time,” said Peterson.

Friends close to Peterson stated that he’s “always been ready to help install Obama as the first Fuehrer of America,” friend Abby Sawyer said. “He really bought into the Fox News rhetoric calling the President a Nazi. I don’t think he understands that Fox News is kind of like Nickelodeon for right-wing adults. It keeps them entertained but doesn’t really offer anything of substance.”

And, *NOT SATIRE THIS TIME*:
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According to a poll released by Public Policy Polling (PPP) late on Wednesday, 60 percent of likely voters in the Republican primaries believe that Operation Jade Helm 15 is an attempt by the federal government to invade and take over Texas
This is going to be a fun election season.
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Also not satire: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/01/world/americas/ex-fifa-official-jack-warner-cites-onion-article-in-defense.html
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