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Samprimary
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the gladius wasn't a 'great cutting weapon' — i mean, it was certainly okay at it but it isn't weighted or shaped to be good at it and it certainly wasn't designed around swings and slashes.

That's okay though because how you were trained to use it (stabs and thrusts from stomach level) was better and more useful most of the time anyway

the katana wasn't exactly a great cutting weapon either (suboptimal weight distribution, draws too much, heavy) but it is considered a 'great cutting weapon' because it certainly was not a great thrusting weapon.

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quote:
Originally posted by JanitorBlade:
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Originally posted by Jon Boy:
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Originally posted by JanitorBlade:
The Desert Eagle is a terrible handgun however, unless you are playing a video game, in which case it's the only handgun you need.

Agreed. I've never used one in real life, but it's pretty awesome in Rainbow Six: Vegas 2. I doubt any real-life handgun would be so great at getting head shots from long range.
They are the best pistol in Counterstrike and Left 4 Dead 1 | 2 as well.
Also in the great Rogue Spear of olde it squared off against the HK USP .45 as the best pistol to carry in your kit.

there is probably a wide list of games in which the .50 is the best pistol, but a much wider game in which katana is bestest ever

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The Desert Eagle was also one of the best games in Golden Eye on the Nintendo 64...Especially the "Golden Deagle"
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
the gladius wasn't a 'great cutting weapon' — i mean, it was certainly okay at it but it isn't weighted or shaped to be good at it and it certainly wasn't designed around swings and slashes.

That's okay though because how you were trained to use it (stabs and thrusts from stomach level) was better and more useful most of the time anyway

the katana wasn't exactly a great cutting weapon either (suboptimal weight distribution, draws too much, heavy) but it is considered a 'great cutting weapon' because it certainly was not a great thrusting weapon.

My understanding of the katana is that it's a huge razor blade, and if used correctly, not just with slashes but a slash and pull movement, it's basically the best cutting blade short of a light saber.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
it's basically the best cutting blade short of a light saber.

Then it must be pretty awful.
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I was reading an article about it. The synopsis is this:
- Sword fighting styles were developed around the strengths and weaknesses of each blade.
- Most major blades have both strengths and weaknesses.
- The styles evolved to exploit strengths and minimize weaknesses.
- The katana style and blade are both some of the most highly evolved in Asian history.

The article made an argument that used with (approximately) six inch cutting depth overhead slashes, against a minimally armored opponent, it can be very effective. But it is mostly a Pokemon argument. Fire beats grass but loses against water. It just depends on who you're fighting and the circumstances surrounding your brawl.

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quote:
Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
it's basically the best cutting blade short of a light saber.

Then it must be pretty awful.
Whatever. Lightsabers are awesome. They're not real (yet), but they're awesome.
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http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/01/ralph/gun-review-magnum-research-iwi-desert-eagle-mark-xix-50ae/

So, the Desert Eagle is terrible from a perspective of practicality. But it sure sounds like fun.

What's the goal of a gun, short of zombie apocalypse anyway? Sounds like a good choice, if you can afford the ammo.

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quote:
Originally posted by Geraine:
The Desert Eagle was also one of the best games in Golden Eye on the Nintendo 64...Especially the "Golden Deagle"

there was no deagle or golden deagle in n64 and the best pistols aside from the goldens/silvers was the DD44 Dostovei and the Cougar Magnum. The Cougar Magnum was based off of probably the Ruger Blackhawk which i am not sure but probably can be counted as a beastlier weapon than the desert eagle 50
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quote:
Originally posted by Aros:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/01/ralph/gun-review-magnum-research-iwi-desert-eagle-mark-xix-50ae/

So, the Desert Eagle is terrible from a perspective of practicality. But it sure sounds like fun.

What's the goal of a gun, short of zombie apocalypse anyway? Sounds like a good choice, if you can afford the ammo.

If you just want something to shoot for fun and can afford the ammo then yes, it's an interesting gun. Though I would argue that a .22 can be even more fun and a fraction of the cost.

For any actual combat or defense uses, it's junk. Too big, too heavy, too much recoil, unreliable, unobtainable ammo, on and on and on. Sure it would be better than nothing, I'd take it over a stick but I'd rather have a good .22. For an experienced shooter, a good old .45 is tough to beat. For the less experienced, 9mm is the way to go.

Also keep in mind that in any combat or Zombie situation, a pistol should be a back-up. You really want a rifle or shotgun as your primary weapon and why would you want your back-up weapon to be the biggest, heaviest one around? It would be like a heavy machine gunner dragging around a six foot, two handed broadsword as his pocket knife.

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I really miss playing that game.
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I always wanted to get a mosin-nagant myself. Cheap, easy to maintain, easy to get the bullets for, and pretty practical all around.

Followed up by an AK.

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quote:
Originally posted by Aros:
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Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
it's basically the best cutting blade short of a light saber.

Then it must be pretty awful.
Whatever. Lightsabers are awesome. They're not real (yet), but they're awesome.
That's my point. They're. Not. Real.
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quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
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Originally posted by Geraine:
The Desert Eagle was also one of the best games in Golden Eye on the Nintendo 64...Especially the "Golden Deagle"

there was no deagle or golden deagle in n64 and the best pistols aside from the goldens/silvers was the DD44 Dostovei and the Cougar Magnum. The Cougar Magnum was based off of probably the Ruger Blackhawk which i am not sure but probably can be counted as a beastlier weapon than the desert eagle 50
I was thinking of the Dostovei...

http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Desert_Eagle

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quote:
Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
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Originally posted by Aros:
quote:
Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
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Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
it's basically the best cutting blade short of a light saber.

Then it must be pretty awful.
Whatever. Lightsabers are awesome. They're not real (yet), but they're awesome.
That's my point. They're. Not. Real.
Think again!

http://www.webpronews.com/real-lightsaber-science-has-made-star-wars-reality-2013-09

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quote:
Originally posted by Geraine:
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Originally posted by Samprimary:
quote:
Originally posted by Geraine:
The Desert Eagle was also one of the best games in Golden Eye on the Nintendo 64...Especially the "Golden Deagle"

there was no deagle or golden deagle in n64 and the best pistols aside from the goldens/silvers was the DD44 Dostovei and the Cougar Magnum. The Cougar Magnum was based off of probably the Ruger Blackhawk which i am not sure but probably can be counted as a beastlier weapon than the desert eagle 50
I was thinking of the Dostovei...

http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Desert_Eagle

The DD44 dostovei was not based on the desert eagle. it was based on a russian pistol called the tokarev.
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now if only we knew what the golden gun was based on...
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quote:
Originally posted by Marek:
now if only we knew what the golden gun was based on...

In the novel, it's just a gold plated .45 revolver, nothing all that special. Movie gun was a bit different [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by Geraine:
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Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
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Originally posted by Aros:
quote:
Originally posted by theamazeeaz:
quote:
Originally posted by Lyrhawn:
it's basically the best cutting blade short of a light saber.

Then it must be pretty awful.
Whatever. Lightsabers are awesome. They're not real (yet), but they're awesome.
That's my point. They're. Not. Real.
Think again!

http://www.webpronews.com/real-lightsaber-science-has-made-star-wars-reality-2013-09

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There is no mention of turning this new tool into a weapon in comparison with the lightsaber in Star Wars, but Lukin also suggests the breakthrough could one day lead to technologies that allow for the creation of complex 3D structures, like crystals, made out of light.
Uh, from what I can tell about the article, if you shoot lasers at cold rubidium atoms, they stick together.
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quote:
Originally posted by Wingracer:
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Originally posted by Marek:
now if only we knew what the golden gun was based on...

In the novel, it's just a gold plated .45 revolver, nothing all that special. Movie gun was a bit different [Big Grin]
I always forget there were novels of Bond, and it has been a long time since I've seen the movie, tho I meant the game since most of theirs were modeled on real ones. But the Golden Gun doesn't seem to be. Then again I know very little about real guns.

Are the novels very good?

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I've got 'REPLICA' written on the blade of my katana... [Big Grin]
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The novels are good. But "book Bond" and "movie Bond" are very different creatures.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Y:
I've got 'REPLICA' written on the blade of my katana

best post in thread imo
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Uh, from what I can tell about the article, if you shoot lasers at cold rubidium atoms, they stick together. [/QB]
no force attuned crystals, not a lightsaber

also *pushes glasses up nose* i DO believe portability is at issue with this supposed cutting weapon.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Y:
I've got 'REPLICA' written on the blade of my katana... [Big Grin]

I need to watch that movie again.
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quote:
Originally posted by Marek:
quote:
Originally posted by Wingracer:
quote:
Originally posted by Marek:
now if only we knew what the golden gun was based on...

In the novel, it's just a gold plated .45 revolver, nothing all that special. Movie gun was a bit different [Big Grin]
I always forget there were novels of Bond, and it has been a long time since I've seen the movie, tho I meant the game since most of theirs were modeled on real ones. But the Golden Gun doesn't seem to be. Then again I know very little about real guns.

Are the novels very good?

The movie gun was a single shot pistol assembled from disguised parts. The barrel was a gold pen, other parts included a gold cigarette case, lighter and cufflinks for the trigger.

My dad was a fan of the novels but I only ever read like one or two and that was a LONG time ago. I think I might have been 8 at the time (40 now).

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I picked up the Bond novels -- all of them -- when Amazon had a Kindle sale a few years back. Some of them are quite good, while others are awesomely terrible. Only a couple are outright dull.
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TomDavidson: Is this in regard to the entire main series? Or just the Fleming-written novels? I've only read the Fleming novels, and they were consistently good (IMO). They're a little light and fluffy, but I don't remember a lull in the action.
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The Fleming ones, sorry; I don't consider the others to be Bond novels.
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Yeah they start getting pretty bad. I stopped reading after that one in the series where Bond has become a giant immortal worm who spends all his time killing Duncan Idahos.
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boy ron lambert, reshpeckobiggle, and capax sure left us hanging on some good questions huh

what a suuuurpriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiise

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http://i.imgur.com/PL4y8uS.gif

whatever here's a picture what's happening everybody

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What's the "good" question I didn't answer?
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Put down the paddles and step away from the thread.

It's time to call it.

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quote:
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Oh yeah. I'm aware. Thanks for clarifying. I think there are quite a few people who are mad but now some people will be less mad, including those who are opposed to his remarks but enjoy the show.

quote:
Originally posted by Samprimary:
are you opposed to his remarks


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quote:
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Put down the paddles and step away from the thread.

It's time to call it.

don't make me turn this into the next last post thread
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It isn't already? <looks around and shrugs>
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Sherlock was terrible. Discuss.
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Like, the show? Or the most recent episode?
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The recent premiere. It was so funny and I wanted so much to like it, but I feel like the writers failed to tell anything resembling a coherent story.
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i could see either argument. i mean i loved watching the first two seasons but rewatches are kind of tedious especially that ~mystic asians~ and their ~mystic asian secret society of asia~ episode yeesh
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quote:
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i could see either argument. i mean i loved watching the first two seasons but rewatches are kind of tedious especially that ~mystic asians~ and their ~mystic asian secret society of asia~ episode yeesh

Hey. They had those back then! They died out along with everything else during the Cultural Revolution. [Wink]
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quote:
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The recent premiere. It was so funny and I wanted so much to like it, but I feel like the writers failed to tell anything resembling a coherent story.

It was an unapologetic nod to fanficcers. Not my favorite, but given it's self awareness I don't mind it. The next two are better.
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I thought you were talking about How I Met Your Mother.
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Sam- Yeesh, indeed. I keep blocking that one out.

Lyrhawn- I definitely recognized the fan-service, for lack of a better word. And who wouldn't, considering how many characters Sherlock makes out with? But I think I would have appreciated it more if it weren't this particular episode. The Moriarty cliffhanger was so emotional, and I just feel like they should have respected how much of themselves the audience had invested in it. And I think almost all humor works better if, as I said, the story follows something like a coherent path.

That said, they're good writers and I'm looking forward to the next episode. I expected it to be better than the premiere, so I'm glad to hear that it will be.

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The next two episodes are better. After watching everything twice and then reading a few breakdown/theory posts, I'm tentatively excited about the next season. It will all depend on whether the subtle clues in this season were deliberate or not. If the next season builds on them and is great, then it will retroactively make this one amazing.


--Mel

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i'm over here being super crippled and awfully ill and most of the time all i can do is halfheartedly browse while on my side and nobody's posting anything, argh, post more

i don't have the energy (or the fine motor control) to spur on contentious debate anymore, someone else has to carry the pitchforks for me.

well i guess i could try

uhh, firefly sucks, you're dumb and inferior if you own a gaming console, sherlock is terrible and benedict cumberbatch has a sissy voice and is totally ugly, and this forum should have large avatars and signatures

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.. something ... mormon ... jello, lol
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Jello is good, and should not have bananas in it. That's just wasteful
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Sugar-free pudding tastes like regular pudding. I found this out just before I threw away all the other cups because I don't eat sugar-free stuff.
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