Ender's New Mind Game (a little long, but good in theory) Ender's Mission Worlds of Ender Ender's Influence Ender and the Hive Queen (By all means she should be in this if it's shortly after he leaves the planet she was on) The Hive Queen and the Xenocide (No Ender, but it's implied. A bit of a pun on The Hive Queen and the Hegemon) Ender's Search (for a place for the Hive Queen) Ender and Valentine Ender and Demosthenes The Speaker, The Philosopher, and The Queen (again no Ender, but I think it sounds good) The Xenocide, The Philosopher, and The Queen (ditto last comment) Ender the Governor Ender the Statesman What Lies Beyond the Ender Ender and Andrew Losing Ender
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First off.. i don't understand the purpose of this smiley-
Second of all, Issues dealing with the story line (I Know this post is long, but it's all serious, please give it at decent look over Scott and Kathy):
Randi should've hopped on board with the Dinkard Ship.
Because we all know he's the most flexible and interesting character of the Jeesh that hasn't been milked- there's no telling what he would've done with his own colony- and for that matter- maybe Ender was called to come to the colony because Dink and this Beansprout were having issues that might jeopardize the colony or some rare natural resource of something on the planet, whatever.
Beansprout is smart, and wants revenge, he knows that the Hegemon took over Earth, and he is brilliant and knows that the 'evil' Ender, which is his brother is still alive, he'll gain universe-wide fame if he were to take out the Xenocide. Revenge and Power - does that not sound like what he'd be raised to want by Randi? - SO he trys to lure Ender to the planet, because if not he'll blow up the earth or that colony or whatever- and yah, i have more to say, like, about how the Speaker-Children had enough mother father family love issues, and this book should be different.- Maybe even a mystery in a way? dealing with the planet.. -
Third off... Title Ideas:
Ender - From Hero to Horror Ender - Life Begins Ender - Once a Hero, Always a Hero? (question mark emphasis)
The Ender Liberation The Ender Salvation
Ender's Lake Ender's Raft (Symbolic of his trip back to Earth, he's free, but not home.)
Ender Enemies Ender Illusions Ender Nemesis Illusions in the Enderverse Ender: Facades (These all are pointing to the thought of 'Who is the enemy?' Were the buggers really the bad guys? Was Ender really a hero, or a monster? Is Beansprout really evil or good?, or for that matter, even the son of Achilles?-- Illusions, you see?)
Ender's Inheritance Ender's Reward Ender, A Hero's Legacy Ender, A Hero in Exile (Trying to stray from the overdone ' Ender's ' thing, i'm developing ideas, not stealing) Ender, The Human The Ender's Game is Down
Ender's Gate, is up.
Ender, A Hero in the Stars (Like a constellation, y'know? I like it..)
Personal favorites: Ender and the Bean Stalk, Ender in Exile, and Ender's Heart (even if i'm not a big fan of Valentine)
-Judas
Just thought of more-
World of the Wiggins'
annnd
Shadows and Monsters or Shadows or Monsters? (I know there has to be 'Ender' in it, but instead, couldn't there be like, a name tag or a door or something with his name on the cover, some sort of Ender Flag being burned in the background?- That would totally be more exciting to me than seeing another 'Ender' titled book.. That's more of an 'Oh, another one? Isn't he overdoing it?' kinda thing)
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A few more random titles (I'm really bored): Game Over Endertine (combo of Valentine and Ender) Ender vs Mini Genius Extraordinaire Ender's Reality Ender the Xenocide Speaker's Youth Ender's Time Ender's Showdown
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Okay, first off I'm going to post some ideas that other people have already come up with.
Ender's Illiad Ender Speaks Ender's Legacy Ender Ender the Xenocide
Now for some of my own ideas. Ender's Sojourn More to come... Note *huge spoiler, scroll down to read**
I don't think the child that Randi bore in Shadow of the Giant is Achilles seed. In fact, based on the 2 month premature birth where the baby was completed formed, just extremely small-exactly like Bean and Petra's children that had Anton's key turned. Translation: The child that Randi bore is the missing child of Petra and Bean.
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Thinking more about what the story would entail, it seems like it would deal with Ender's 'rise' to maturity and discovering more about himself and his place in the universe, which is why I suggested 'Ender's Reflection' before since it implies a more personal, introspective look into oneself.
keeping that in mind, I thought 'Ender's Ascension' would be a neat idea for a title. similarly, the words 'Dawn' or 'Horizon' might fit in well (Ender's Horizon sounds pretty nifty).
or, you could take the novel on an entirely different route- Ender suffers depression and alcoholism in 'Ender's Benders'.
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I haven't read SoTG but i went to a book store in an outlet today, in Myrtl Beach, and they only had SotH. That was their latest. i was upset. I don't live in MRytle I live IN camp LEjeune, whihc is why I scream cause OSC you're so close to me.... so close yet so far... Well NEways the titles I thought up:
Ender’s Link Ender’s Association ****Ender’s Connection Ender’s Relationship Ender’s Correlation Ender’s Relation ****Ender’s Bond ( Bond, James Bond.) Ender’s Tie ****Ender’s Union Ender’s Linkage Ender’s Connect ****Ender’s Alliance Ender’s Correspondence
Ender’s Watch Ender’s Keeper Ender’s Son Ender’s Failure Ender’s Weakness Ender’s Pandemonium ****Ender’s Deception Ender’s Lies Ender’s Dishonesty ****Ender’s Deceit Ender’s Falsehood Ender’s Fabrication Ender’s Mendacity Ender’s Ruse Ender’s Sham ****Ender’s Fate Ender’s Corridor Ender’s Flight Ender’s Journey Ender’s Trip Ender’s Life Ender’s Child Ender’s Embryo Ender’s Mortal Ender’s Bugger Ender’s Friend ****Ender’s Influence Ender’s Power Ender’s Triumph Ender’s Love Ender’s Peter ****Ender’s Grace Ender’s Friendship Ender’s Damnation Ender’s Follies ****Ender’s Curse Ender’s Salience Ender’s Surveillance Ender’s Story Ender’s Book Ender Ender: Tale of Woe Ender: Fallen Hero Ender’s Change Ender’s Games Ender’s Reflection’s Ender’s Brillance Ender’s Hope Ender’s Crush Ender’s Nourishment Ender’s Determination Ender’s Faith Ender’s Light Ender’s Darkness Ender’s Gratitude Ender’s Rule Ender’s Colony Ender’s Worship Ender’s Nomadic Life Ender: The Nomad ****Ender: Nomadic Hero Ender’s Travels Ender’s God Ender’s Aftermath Ender’s Grant ****Ender’s Elba (The place where Napolean was exiled) Ender’s Exile ****Ender’s Odyssey Ender’s Life Ender’s UFO Ender’s IF Ender’s Colony Ender’s Ship Ender’s Taming Ender’s Beast Ender’s Trembles Ender’s Shivers Ender’s Reach Ender’s Planet ****Ender’s Voyage Ender’s Drama
****Ender’s Work (That one’s like opposite Ender’s "Game" get it? Got it? Done.! LOL)
Ender’s Polarity Ender’s Shell Shock Ender’s War Ender’s Crusade Ender’s Conqueror Ender’s Hand Ender’s Cards Ender’s Blackjack Ender’s Royal Flush Ender’s Channel Ender’s Space Ender’s Vapor
Ender’s P….. (I’m looking for a word. I know what it means but I can’t think of it. It’s something like the government influence’s us to think some way. Like if we control the press then we can control this stuff or the way we think. I can’t think of it. If I do then I’ll edit this post)
Ender’s Maternal Instincts j/k
I have a few I like and I starred those. I am tired after long days wrok and OSC it stinks to be so close to you. Me in camp Lejuene and you in Greensboro. I mena that's not within a few inutes from eachother. I mean it's really a few hours but that's still closer tha alot of other people are to their favorite author.
Also Some of them like Ender's Child are there because OSC said something about a mother and a child in his first post.
quote: Since I'm talking about this at book signings, it would be rude not to tell you folks right now. A couple of days ago I was sitting in the office of my publisher, Tom Doherty, talking about projects coming up, and it dawned on me that there's a book that I really want to write.
If you haven't read Shadow of the Giant, this is a mini-spoiler. But most people won't mind, so choose for yourself: At the end of Giant, there's one plot thread about a woman and her baby that go off on a colony ship. This is something I had never planned and when I sent her off, it was because I had in the back of my mind the possibility of writing more about her and her child.
What came to me in Tom Doherty's office was: She's going to be on a colony world after a time-dilated FTL voyage. Therefore it is quite possible that when Ender is done with his first colony experience (and has written The Hive Queen and The Hegemon), I could have him voyage first to that very same colony at about the time that this woman's child has come to adulthood.
I suggested this to Tom - another novel that actually features Ender when he's still young, before he met Jane, and WAY before Speaker for the Dead. (Of course Valentine is in it, too!) And this interesting character and her child have enormous potential for an interesting story involving Ender and Valentine.
Tom agreed, and this storyline will take the place of the planned Mazer Rackham novel. Not that I'll never write that one, but it will be postponed for now. In fact, I may even write this Ender novel before writing Shadows in Flight, the post-Children of the Mind novel that ties the Shadow and Speaker series together.
What I don't have is a title. The only rule is that it must have the name "Ender" in it. My first thought is: "Ender Voyaging." My most hated title so far is: "Ender: Spaceman!" There's such a fine line between good titles and hideous ones.
The Title was supposed to relate to the child. It would proably be best if I had actually read SoTG, but whtvr.
(On a side note I sent a message to Cuchlain about a forum. don't know if she forwarded it.)
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Ender And the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day Ender And the Great Glass Elevator If You Give an Ender a Cookie Ender, Prince of Xenocides Lost World: Ender vs T-Rex Make Way for Ender Ender On the Road Again Endless Ender A Kinder, Gentler Ender Ender And the Giant Peach Foxtrot Ender: A Xenocide's Guide To Ballroom Dancing
Oi... pretty bad
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Ender, the Champion of the World The BFPFTP (Big Friendly People From the Past) Ender and the Giant Peachlike...thing....
*cough*
Actually, I just wanted to post in this thread.
My favorite thus far is Ender Adrift.
Out of curiosity - and this is coming from somebody who knows nothing about the writing of novels, and even less about the publishing of them - wouldn't it be easier to name a novel after you write it?
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Yeah, I've posted a few my self, but if I had to vote for one, it would most def. be Ender Adrift.
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I think OSC already knows precisely what the title will be. This is all just a conspiracy to exploit the creativity of Hatrackers. Posts: 46 | Registered: Mar 2005
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*confession* I haven't read most of the stories for quite a while, so I'm not sure precisely where OSC is planning to plant his new narratives, but had a couple thoughts along the line of "Ender has written the Heroine and the Hegemon, and spent a stay on one colony"
either or:
Ender Encumbered (same assonance, middlin' title for a middle-new-saga series)
Ender Unencumbered (for a freeform exit-stage-left, sayonara, bonne nuit, farewell)
ok, so, encumbered is awkward, but it might lend some gravitas, neh?
Still think Val should be worked into the title, though.
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Ender Passant is corny, but if you really think about it, so is Ender's Game . Ender's Gate is still my favorite. Dagonee and CT both liked it too, but that may just mean it resonates with persons born in 1970, because "Watergate" was discussed a lot when we were learning to talk. It was BSquallGuitarist's suggestion.
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Ender’s Sister Ender Makes Way Ender Forever Ender Returns Ender Beyond Ender Begins Ender and Valentine Ender’s Love Ender Traveling Ender Foretold Ender Granted Ender Passing Ender’s Family Ender Motivated Ender: Admiral of the Open Space Ender Following Ender’s Savior Ender’s Life Ender’s Kingdom Ender’s Horse Ender’s Travels Ender’s Good-will Ender’s Plagiarism Ender’s Pride Ender’s Pity Ender’s Joy Ender’s Triumph Ender’s Glory Years Ender: The Glory years Ender’s Determination Ender Determined Ender’s Challenge Ender’s Delight
(you said you wanted to tie Valentine into it alluvion so I thought that it could be one of these for the title with her tied in:
Ender’s Sister Ender’s Valentine ( I know that this one’s been procured by someone already just thought that I’d place it in this group as one that ties in) Ender’s Sibling Ender’s Childhood Protector Ender and Valentine Ender and his Sister
(that’s all I got for that)
I like Ender Adrift but like any greedy Person I would rather have my name in the Acknowledgements of one of Mr. Card’s books.
****Ender’s Propaganda (I really like this one because I feel like the book could be about the lies that the people told others to give Ender the title of the Xenocide.)
(The rest are jokes) Ender: Lord of the Space Belts: The Fellowship of the Asteroid Belt (the first book in the Lord of the Space Belts series) Ender: Lord of the Space Belts: The Two Colonies (The 2nd story in the Lord of the Space Belts series) Ender: Lord of the space Belts: The Return of the Hero (The third book in the Lord of the Space Belts series) Ender Reloaded (Ender finds out that his whole life has been a lie and that Buggers rule the world using Humans as Batteries to run their machines.) Ender: Old School (Ender returns to his old Colleges Fraternity)
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Hmmm here's another kind of odd one that works
Ender's Achilles' Heel. I dont think it has enough of a ring to it but it makes sense, probably also a bit much of a spoiler, maybe Ender's Heel would be better (people have probably suggested this/these before I'm sure.)
For those VBSers wondering, I'm Alai, but the name was already taken on this forum.
Since we're talking about a woman carying Bean's child here, my thought was that the title should have some alusion to the "shadow" metaphor in the titles of those books, or at the very least, some reference to light. Unfortunately, that may not be possible at the same time as keeping the name "Ender" in there. Perhaps someone wiser than I can come up with a title which incorporates both. The only thing I can come up with at the moment is "Second Shadow." Either that or "Ender Journeyman"
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rivka: If anyone has read this far in the forum, they've either figured that out already, or have gotten the wrong impression (for instance, that she's carrying Achilles's baby) which is even worse. :-)
Midnight Blue: Shadowing Ender...could work...At least it's on the right track.
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Some shadowy (and lighty) titles: Ender's Light Shadows of Earth Ender's Shadow Jr. Speaking of Shadows Rising Lights: From Xenocide to Speaker Ender's Dawn
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The only trouble with a Shadowesque title is the publisher wants a title with "Ender" in it, neh?
How about Ender's Shadow's Beginning? Or Shadow of Ender's Gate? Or . . . ?
Re AF: I abbreviate everyone's SNs, unless they dislike it. (Then I try to remember not to.) And I use cheap cameras (because I break them regardless), so no autofocus for me.
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I don't mind. AF 'tis. It makes sense to have "Ender" in it, but there's got to be a way to do both. It may well be that Shadowing Ender is the best that can be done in that vein. At least, it seems to be the best possible using two main words and the word "shadow" itself. How about things that don't have the "shadow" itself, but something alluding to it (or to darkness, or to light). Can you guys help me with a list of shadow-related words?
Light Halo Shade Haze Hidden Dark ...etc
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1) The way - path - that Ender takes as he begins his future, as he starts on his "real" life
2) The way that Ender does things - his actions, behavior, morals, etc.
I think it makes a nice follow-up to Ender's Game; in other words, Ender's Game is the book in which his destiny and life is being controlled, Ender's Way is the book where he takes control of his own life, develops a life of his own. And you can also read it as "Ender's Way" - the way of a person who is ending a previous life and starting a new life.
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The fact that there are seven full pages of this boggles the mind. What throws me more is that Unky Orson's not about to name a book that is suggested here; it's no fun to come up with a name the fans have already come up with (aka Revenge of the Sith) and there's the whole "It's ME! It was MY idea" potential.
My thought? I think he'll name it something so off the wall that no one will expect it.
Like:
Splnorky El Magnfico del ENDERRRRR! Boom Boom and the Jets Mr. Squishy Bug versus The Smog Monster Where Are All My Bananas?
Of course, now that I've broached these ideas he won't go for them either. Phooey.
Seems like an intresting title. Albeit I thought it was two syllables and ( checking dictionary.com) I found out it was 3 =p. I also like Ender the Xenocide. ( I cant remember who posted it ) Would Ender know that it was Bean's child? Im not sure what direction Card is going to take this novel but if he did know, would he have known about Beans condition and his unlimitless growth which would bring about his early death? I think it would be interesting if he did since in the shadow series Bean considers himself " Not part of the Human race" since his slightly alterd genetics render him "not human". With some other ideas said by other people, I like the plot of Achilles II spreading rumours to make Ender look like A Killer of an entire species rather than the savior of one. His quandary being, If achilles II gets in to far..taking or hurting or destroying everything that Ender holds dear.. will Ender kill him? With his reputation now being that of a xenocide.. will he commit another since Achilles II is unlike any "human" alive, being that hes not even fully human? Thinking he is the only one of his kind ( yet doesnt know about Bean traveling through space with his other children?) This could be an interesting point in a post COTM If Bean actually lives that long that the Peter/Ender entity relates the tale of that conflict long ago and bean finally knows what happend to his lost child.
I dont know if any of that made sense. Just some random thoughts going through my head. there probably not even organized. ^_^ Anyone care to comment? Work at 6 am ya know ^_- maybe thats y im tired
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