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WriterDan
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This was a critique group for writers that entered a story into the third quarter of 2011 in the Writers of the Future contest (28th year).

After the end of the quarter, entries submitted have been responded to as thus:

Finalists:
Dustin Adams (axeminister)
Trina Phillips (genevive42)

Honorable Mentions:
Jennifer Hicks (JenniferHicks)
Dan Smyth (WriterDan)
Louis Doggett (LDWriter2)
James Hanzelka (Utahute72)
Melanie Meadors (mrmeadors)

Congratulations to everyone that submitted!

If you participated in the group and got some kind of award for this quarter, let me know and I'll add you to the list.

These are our Woo-hoos!

(Original posts from the quarter shown below)

[This message has been edited by WriterDan (edited September 09, 2011).]


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I want in. That puts the group up to two.

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Double-Dan. This group is forming already?
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Oh for crying out loud. I just started writing my Q2 story...
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I agree with aspirt and Snapper.


Except my story is written and almost ready for WotF...I hope.

Have to decide rather to use another old story for Q3 or try to write a new one.

Actually, I have a new one that most probably needs all types of help but may not be the type of SF they like.


I do have an idea about twisting time around but that's kinda cliche-ish. And then there's an old SF type of story where MC goes looking for a better than usual space ship lost hundreds of years ago. That was to be a novel but I might be able to shorten it to a rather long short story. But that's kinda cliche-ish also.


[This message has been edited by LDWriter2 (edited March 01, 2011).]


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I'm in...grrrr
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Can I mention how much I love all the positivity and optimism that is just overflowing in this topic's posts? You people are great. ROFL. Glad to have you!

Can't really say that I'm all on top of things right at the moment either, but if any of you are like me, the you need this motivation as well.

Let's get to it.


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Count me in for another go.
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What the heck, got to start somewhere, count me in.
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I'm on the fence.
I really want to get my novel done and queried and out there.
Well, Lemme thinks more.
Meantime, here's the list all tidied up.

WriterDan
DTN
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bwthomason
Utahute72

Edited to add, I'd just like to say I marvel at you folks who can submit every quarter. I'm barely holding on to a 6 mo submission pattern. Regardless of how you place, that's pretty impressive.

Axe

[This message has been edited by axeminister (edited March 03, 2011).]


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Of course I'm in.

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So I was thinking I would use the story I did for the inhuman challenge as a start. Is this a good idea or better to start fresh.
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Axe, if I had a wife and kids and had to get up at 4:30 am to write I doubt I would get half as much done as you have.
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Use that one Ute. I recommend that you'll need to double its length. I think it needs it to make the story more active and provide depth to your character.
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Thanks Snapper that's exactly what I had already planned to do with it anyway.
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BTW, I want to join, should have said that earlier.



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Another BTW.

For those who do join up could you place your name on the manuscript? Most do that anyway but sometimes I get a little confused with so many stories and chapters coming in and going out lately. I might be one of the ones who don't list my name all the time but in my case I know my own stories...most of them anyway.


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I'd love to join, but I really want to work on my novel and I've found I can't do both effectively. This is a great group. Maybe I'll be back next quarter if I need a break from the big book.
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Okay to join if I'm not really sure I'll be sending the story in?

I've been concentrating on the novels. The only other short story I have right now isn't really as good as the one that just got rejected. At least, I don't think so.

Plus, it's already had a few rejections of its own. And I'd have to come up with a new title for it, since it's been in F&F for short stories.

I don't think this is the complete list, but it was the last one I could find:

WriterDan
DTN
Dark Warrior
bwthomason
Utahute72
JenniferHicks
Meredith

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Oops, I was reading the posts too fast and I both didn't notice and forgot something at the same time.

so here is my correction.


WriterDan
DTN
Dark Warrior
bwthomason
Utahute72
JenniferHicks
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I'm in! Thanks for helping me figure out how to get here, Meredith!

WriterDan
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Dark Warrior
bwthomason
Utahute72
JenniferHicks
Meredith
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I'm nervous, but I'm going to give this a shot. Heh I'm more nervous about the crits than I am about entering the contest (I belong to a writing critique group where I am one of two fantasy writers... not very much pressure there, only a few people read much fantasy, so there's not much basis for comparison. Here, however.... gulp!). What "flavors" of fantasy seem to do well in WOTF? I've read the winners several years ago, I'm not sure if the story I have in mind would work well for them.


WriterDan
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mrmeadows, Crits are your friend. They help you identify weak points of your piece. Unfortunately with mine there are a lot of weak points, but that's why were here right. If we knew it all and were experienced we'd all be successful published authors.
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mrmeadors,
The fantasy that I can recall having read in the last few volumes of WotF had nothing to do with elves, mages, or fairies.

Fantasy is fantastic, not elftastic.

Last year's winner Living Rooms was the closest I've seen.

Axe


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LOL oh, good, I don't do elves (and that is why I never know... some people really like their pointy-ear fiction!).

Last night, an idea that just might be good came to mind--and it is science fiction. So it may not be an issue after all...

Thanks guys!


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The story I am sending in has a legend about a giant, and a little bit of magic but no elves-singing or not, no dwarves, no wizards(just a tiny bit of magic), no orcs or trolls, no epic adventure...I still consider it fantasy.


As I was typing that out I thought of a story plot...probably been done, probably would have to be humorous and kinda obvious but still I will try to put my twist on it.


Whenever I get to writing it. It needs to gel some more.


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Messed up Last Quarter (still have a story out there for review). Every quarter is a chance to do better. I'm in.

WriterDan
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Dark Warrior
bwthomason
Utahute72
JenniferHicks
Meredith
LDWriter2
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I think I have the story I'm going to be using for Q3. It won't be the one I was thinking of writing. That one will more than likely be 2 to 3 thousand words. Even though since I haven't written it yet, I could be wrong.
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Mind if I join?

I sent in my first WOTF entry a week ago and I have a story in my head for next quarter. The deadlines posted look like a good pace for my next entry.

WriterDan
DTN
Dark Warrior
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Now to work on Q3's story.

I just sent in Q2's and I can now concentrate on the next one. Some of the time, that is, I still need to write on my other stuff after all.

[This message has been edited by LDWriter2 (edited March 26, 2011).]


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I'll probably finish the first draft of my Q3 story tonight. I've been working on it, on and off, for about a month.
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Cool that you're done already! I'm maybe half way through my Q3 story.
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Just reached my half-way point. Better get a move on!
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Think I'm going to have a go this time, looking forward to it!

WriterDan
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Dark Warrior
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I'm about halfway as well, but for some reason, this story is behaving strangely for me. The way the story is evolving... it's not how I had planned it, and so it's taking me longer to write it than usual. Hopefully I'll be done with a decent draft by mid-month!

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I may end up jumping in after all, but I won't make it official until I have a solid start on my story idea.
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Hello, all. I'm back.

I'm in. I might not get a story out to you guys for a while, but I'm ready to read.

WriterDan
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Dark Warrior
bwthomason
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JenniferHicks
Meredith
LDWriter2
RobinWeeks
mrmeadors
Owasm
Wordcaster
Delli
Christopher

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First drafts due next week?

Oh boy... I need a breakthrough on my disjointed mess. *gulp*


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I hear you, Wordcaster. I'm almost done with my roughish draft, and it is an unwieldy mess. All of a sudden, it seems like nothing "happens" in the story. I think I just need to finish and go through it, cut all the excess, and rearrange things so that there is action throughout the whole thing. This story really worked itself out in a weird way for me, differently than stories usually "happen" for me, so maybe that's why.

I just hope the end result works out!
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Nope, doesn't look like it's going to happen this quarter. THe novel is just being too insistent.
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Finally finished my draft... it ain't pretty, but it's done. I'll let it sit a few days and look at it again. Maybe it will grow better with age?
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quote:

Finally finished my draft... it ain't pretty, but it's done. I'll let it sit a few days and look at it again. Maybe it will grow better with age?



That's what the crits are for. But you still have time to make it at least "plain Jane" if it really is as ugly as you think.


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quote:

Nope, doesn't look like it's going to happen this quarter. THe novel is just being too insistent.

I know how you feel, my novels are taking up way too much short story time. That would probably be true even if there was just one I was working on.


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quote:
Nope, doesn't look like it's going to happen this quarter. THe novel is just being too insistent.

I'm going to have to bow out as well. It's not that I can't finish the story. In fact, I'm pretty much done (except for the ending, but it's in my head).

I'm halting my short story because it won't win. Nor will polishing help it to win. It's a novella in a short story format -- it's not the right story for this contest. Plus, part of it is a common trope that KDW mentioned on her forum anyway.

Sorry for the late drop out. I still plan on entering in the next quarter, just not with the story that I prepared to exchange with the team. Good luck all!


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I might have inadvertently lied. I'm going to jump in and will be happy to start doing crits. But I know my story will be late in getting out. Hopefully not too late. Regardless, I'm in.

WriterDan
DTN
Dark Warrior
bwthomason
Utahute72
JenniferHicks
Meredith
LDWriter2
RobinWeeks
mrmeadors
Owasm
Wordcaster ?are you out for sure?
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Christopher
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So, I don't know about anyone else, but the group is looking fairly large to me, and I don't know if I can hack 7 crits in the time I have. Thus, I'm going to suggest that we split in three for this round of crits. As such, groups for round 1 of crits this quarter are:

Group 1:
WriterDan
bwthomason
Meredith
mrmeadors
Christopher

Group 2:
DTN
Utahute72
LDWriter2
Owasm
genevive

Group 3:
Dark Warrior
JenniferHicks
RobinWeeks
Delli

If anyone wants to offer more of their services to those outside their group (possibly in hopes that their story will get more crits in return) feel free to do so. What is being asked for though, is listed above.

Hope everyone is doing well with their story. Still more to write for me. Wish this dang dissertation weren't sucking up so much of my time, but things is the way they is.


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I can join group 3 to make it even numbers, but I am not sure whether I will finish my story in time. So I may have to brush up an old one.
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As word spreads that 25-50% of our group consistently places HM or higher each quarter this group is going to grow. I can see dozens here someday My hopes are to have a Hatrack sweep of 1st-3rd in an upcoming quarter.
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I have capacity this weekend to start reading subs for group one if you guys have stories ready. My first draft is done, so I can send that whenever you are ready as well.

Brian


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Hi Brian, Mine will be ready by tomorrow night the latest. I'm just having some angst issues over tense right now (past vs. present, and even if the story seems better to ME in present, would it do as well in WotF?).

But anyway, I'll be ready to do crits this weekend as well .

Melanie


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