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Lisa
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I watched the pilot of "Heroes" this morning. It's a new show that's coming out this fall.

I'm not even sure where to start. It's just... incredible. It's like the best parts of Lost, the best parts of The 4400, the best parts of the old Wild Card series of books (if anyone here has read them).

Basically, there are a handful of people who are essentially mutants. Ignore all the damage that Marvel has done to that concept. They're normal people, but they have abilities. And they're not all really happy with them.

There's a girl who is invulnerable.
A guy who may be able to fly.
A guy who may can see the future.
A woman whose mirror image... can do things. Maybe.
A Japanese fanboy geek who can bend space and time.
A genius kid and a genius taxi driver and since Greg Gruenberg is going to be on this but wasn't in the pilot, I expect there'll be more.

Lots of people. Strange connections between them (a la Lost).

You've got to watch this. I'm already an addict.

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Where did you get a copy of the pilot?
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Is it available online?
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I was interested in the previews for the show. Let us know where you were able to view it.

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Lisa
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It was leaked. The earliest I'd heard about it was on AICN, and they were saying that it seemed to be caused by a solar eclipse. Which made me kind of skeptical. And it apparently did the same to other people, because even though there's an eclipse that happens during the show, the powers precede it.

I downloaded it. And since I plan to watch it when it airs, I don't see any problem with that. Not that I really would have anyway, but I'm just saying.

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When is it scheduled to air?
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I thought it said "this fall"...nothing terribly specific.
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Irami Osei-Frimpong
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Spill it, starLisa.
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I've been watching all the trailers they have for it on nbc.com. We are very anxiously awaiting this show at my house...

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starLisa -- the one I really can't figure out is the single mom who has the "alter ego" (or mirror image, you called it). It looks like the 'other her' is evil -- is that the jist of how you see it?

And Claire (the unbreakable girl) says something to her mom about "I think I'm old enough for you to tell me who my real parents are" -- which makes me believe that is how it ties into the comments on the famous geneticist.

The eclipse thing is puzzling too. Why would they not have their "powers" until the eclipse?

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I've been thinking about restoring sattelite service this Fall in order to watch BSG. If I do that I'll have to give this show a try.
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Lisa
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quote:
Originally posted by Farmgirl:
starLisa --

Just "Lisa", actually.

quote:
Originally posted by Farmgirl:
the one I really can't figure out is the single mom who has the "alter ego" (or mirror image, you called it). It looks like the 'other her' is evil -- is that the jist of how you see it?

I don't know if she's evil. I get the feeling that she may be a lot less inhibited, though. Which is kind of funny, considering what she's doing when we first see her.

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And Claire (the unbreakable girl) says something to her mom about "I think I'm old enough for you to tell me who my real parents are" -- which makes me believe that is how it ties into the comments on the famous geneticist.

Could be. I'm not sure how she knows she's not related. I mean, she comes across as a lot more "real" than her ditzy mother and lamer brother, but then I remember the stuff she talked about with the guy she had filming her. She seems like a real '09er. The nasty sort, like Cordelia was in the first season of Buffy. It's an interesting contrast.

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Originally posted by Farmgirl:
The eclipse thing is puzzling too. Why would they not have their "powers" until the eclipse?

Claire obviously had hers before the eclipse, though, right? And so did the precog painter. I wonder if the eclipse is going to be relevant at all any more.
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quote:
Originally posted by Noemon:
When is it scheduled to air?

If this is correct, the pilot is due to air September 1. It's an NBC show, and it's going to be on Monday nights.

I love that the Japanese guy is named Hiro. My favorite name of any character ever is Hiro Protaganist, from Snow Crash.

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Hah, I thought you were saying that the episode was leaked due to a solar eclipse. Which would be pretty baffling.
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quote:
I don't know if she's evil. I get the feeling that she may be a lot less inhibited, though. Which is kind of funny, considering what she's doing when we first see her.
Maybe you're seeing different things that I'm seeing (all I've seen are the trailers). But it looks like at one point the she wakes up and there is a dead guy there in the room with her, and her image in the mirror has blood on her and holds up the finger to her lips "shhhhh". I'm thinking this is like a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde type thing going on.

Where did you get that some of them had their powers prior to eclipse? I can't tell that from the trailer - because it is all jumbled out and can be out-of-order for the story.

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quote:
Originally posted by Strider:
Hah, I thought you were saying that the episode was leaked due to a solar eclipse. Which would be pretty baffling.

Heh. I can see that.
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quote:
Originally posted by Farmgirl:
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I don't know if she's evil. I get the feeling that she may be a lot less inhibited, though. Which is kind of funny, considering what she's doing when we first see her.
Maybe you're seeing different things that I'm seeing (all I've seen are the trailers). But it looks like at one point the she wakes up and there is a dead guy there in the room with her, and her image in the mirror has blood on her and holds up the finger to her lips "shhhhh". I'm thinking this is like a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde type thing going on.

Where did you get that some of them had their powers prior to eclipse? I can't tell that from the trailer - because it is all jumbled out and can be out-of-order for the story.

In both cases, I've seen the full episode. I don't know what I can say without going too much into spoiler territory.
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yeah -- don't spoil it. I'll just wait until it comes out...

Lucky you for getting to see the pilot.

[Smile]
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Just one thing I'll tell you. It ran like 53 minutes (which means that the pilot will run more than an hour with commercials), and it ended with a "To Be Continued..."

I guess that's two things. <grin>

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Oh. My. Goodness.

This show is going to be awesome. My wife and I watched the pilot just now and were in total disbelief. Now that's DURN good television!!!


starLisa, please read below - I have a question!

******SPOILER WARNING*****


starLisa, what do you think that one guy's power is? I didn't catch his name, but the nurse guy that was the brother to the Congressman. Apparently the Congressman can fly, while his brother (apparently his younger twin) thought HE could fly. Now, he did mention that they, as brothers, were connected somehow. Do you think that all of these feelings of flying and so forth were thoughts about his BROTHER?

If you don't want to talk about it here, shoot me an email with what you think.

jeleal AT austin . rr . com


*****end spoilers*****

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I just watched the pilot.

I'm interested to see where they take this. The "mutant" story has been done, but if they can bring something new to it then I'm excited.

The casting cracks me up. Peter is the guy who played Jess on "Gilmore Girls." The cheerleader is the little girl from "Remember the Titans" (all the more appropriate that her character is in Odessa). And Hiro is Franklyn, the lab tech, on "Scrubs."

I don't know what to think about the Vegas girl (Nikki?). Her power is certainly the most interesting but I like the other characters more.

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So far my favorite character is Hiro, but only because he was funny.

I also like the 'twist' where the cheerleader girl's foster father comes in, and its Mr. Glasses (at least I call him that) from the geneticists house and the cab.

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Where did you guys get the pilot?
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Irami Osei-Frimpong
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I'm downloading it now from torrent spy, I think. I won't find out until it's through.
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I found a link, let me know if you need it. There are a few versions of it floating around.
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quote:
Originally posted by PUNJABEE:
So far my favorite character is Hiro, but only because he was funny.

I also like the 'twist' where the cheerleader girl's foster father comes in, and its Mr. Glasses (at least I call him that) from the geneticists house and the cab.

A spoiler warning might have been nice here.
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Lisa
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quote:
Originally posted by PUNJABEE:
******SPOILER WARNING*****
starLisa,

Just "Lisa", actually.

quote:
Originally posted by PUNJABEE:
what do you think that one guy's power is? I didn't catch his name, but the nurse guy that was the brother to the Congressman. Apparently the Congressman can fly, while his brother (apparently his younger twin)

Twin? There looks to be a serious age difference between them. Anyway, I suspect maybe they both can fly. But who knows? If you look at the cast picture at nbc.com or at epguides.com/heroes, the brother is standing smack in the middle, which suggests a leadership role.
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Well at first I didn't think they were twins either, but my wife picked up on a line that their mother said when they were picking her up at the PD.

She said something about [the 'younger' one] "pushing your brother out first," and the brother did say they were 'connected' somehow. Usually, twins claim that there is some sort of connection between eachother, even in the real world.

We could be wrong, of course and we won't know until the show continues but at this point, I think they are twins.

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Lisa, I don't know if it's available, but have you tried registering as "Lisa or lisa", and doing away with the "star" part entirely? If it's in your username, especially if it's at the beginning of your username, trying to get people not to call you something is going to be a losing battle. Hell, you're lucky nobody has started shortening it to "star".
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Irami Osei-Frimpong
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I hope they go light on the wanna be profound mumbo jumbo and just stick to the story. I wish I could have muted out all of the voice overs or the Indian Professor's speeches.

A big plus is that it's got the little kid from "Lady in the Water," and he is adorable.

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quote:
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She said something about [the 'younger' one] "pushing your brother out first,"

She told Peter that his brother takes up a lot of space/light and that it pushes him (Peter) out. Also that Peter always let his brother do that.
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quote:
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Lisa, I don't know if it's available, but have you tried registering as "Lisa or lisa", and doing away with the "star" part entirely? If it's in your username, especially if it's at the beginning of your username, trying to get people not to call you something is going to be a losing battle. Hell, you're lucky nobody has started shortening it to "star".

Actually, it's happened. And no, Lisa is not available. It almost never is. That's one reason why I have my own domain. It guaranteed me the username of "lisa" at least in my own e-mail address. And I checked at Hatrack. "Lisa" is definitely unavailable.

It's no biggie. I'll just correct people every now and then. Throw enough... stuff... and some of it has got to stick.

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"A Japanese fanboy geek who can bend space and time."

SOLD!

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*maybe sweet-talks Irami into sharing the pilot file he found???????*
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<sigh> -------.com.

[ July 24, 2006, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: starLisa ]

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No sweat, Farmgirl, it's big file and I don't know if your inbox can take it, so here is what I'd do, hop over google, put in "BitLord", download version 1.1

After you've installed Bitlord, go
Here

I don't have a TV, so anytime I get a hankering for an old show-- or a new one-- I download it.

If you start now, it should be done by primetime tonight, after you put the kids to bed, you can have a little bit of sci-fi goodness.

Edit:
Lisa,
What's with the sigh?

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[Big Grin] As soon as you posted that, the number of downloaders jumped incredibly.
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You can't stop the signal, aiua, and I'm not one to try. As I see it, fanboys like me are going to end up giving NBC or their advertisers money somehow, through either positive word of mouth or consistent patronage.
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Thanks!
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quote:
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Lisa,
What's with the sigh?

Can I say that it was a prescient sigh over you recommending BitLord instead of BitComet?

Nah, I just worry about the wrong person seeing the post and one of the more useful sites I have bookmarked going the way of Suprnova.org. And in fact, since you've posted an actually torrent URL, I'm going to edit that one out now.

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quote:
Originally posted by Irami Osei-Frimpong:
You can't stop the signal, aiua, and I'm not one to try. As I see it, fanboys like me are going to end up giving NBC or their advertisers money somehow, through either positive word of mouth or consistent patronage.

I'm certainly planning on watching it when it airs. I saw the pilots of Wonderfalls and Lost and Joan of Arcadia before they ever aired, and I watch them when they air. Well, not Wonderfalls and Joan, because they became network roadkill, but I would have anyway.

I saw the unaired eps of Firefly via download, and then I bought the DVD set. I own movies that I never would have heard of had it not been for the pirate sites. They've made money off of me downloading, bottom line. So I'm not too worried about it.

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Is Azureus even a client? I thought it was a server app.
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quote:
Originally posted by T_Smith:
"A Japanese fanboy geek who can bend space and time."

SOLD!

I know, right? But I guarantee you they won't use that phrasing for their advertising. Except maybe for commercials running on Sci-Fi, Comedy Central or USA Network. Anywhere else, they'd probably lose more viewers than they'd gain.
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azureus is a client for torrents yes out of bittorrent client, bitlord and a few others I liked Azureus the best.
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quote:
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You can't stop the signal, aiua, and I'm not one to try. As I see it, fanboys like me are going to end up giving NBC or their advertisers money somehow, through either positive word of mouth or consistent patronage.

I agree whole-heartedly. I always end up buying the series and such when it comes out on DVD anyway. Downloading is just to tide me over until that comes or to catch up on an episode I missed.
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Netflix is releasing the pilots for "Kidnapped" and "Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip", two new NBC shows, on Aug. 5th.
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Which means I should be able to watch the pilot for Studio 60 on or about August 6. I'm actually kind of surprised I haven't been able to find it out there.

I'd like to see the pilot for Day Break as well. Just to see whether it's going to be worth watching during the Lost hiatus.

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Blayne is right on this one....Azureus is an app, and the best one IMO. I tried a few others, and Azureus has the best features by far.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by PUNJABEE:
She said something about [the 'younger' one] "pushing your brother out first,"

She told Peter that his brother takes up a lot of space/light and that it pushes him (Peter) out. Also that Peter always let his brother do that.
Ahhh.. that makes sense.
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